Posted on 09/26/2017 1:36:24 PM PDT by Innovative
Full title: "Graham-Cassidy is dead. Stop treating Obamacare like the enemy and help get Americans health coverage"
We may never know how many Republicans in the U.S. Senate would have voted against the latest ill-conceived and disruptive proposal to ”repeal and replace” the Affordable Care Act.
But we know the three whose public opposition kept the measure from reaching the Senate floor this week — Susan Collins of Maine, John McCain of Arizona and Rand Paul of Kentucky. Although they disagree sharply over what to do about the ACA, they all deserve the country’s thanks for stopping lawmakers from heedlessly leaving millions of lower- and middle-income Americans unable to afford coverage and sending the market for non-group policies into a death spiral.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
468% increase in premiums since 2008. My company was told our benefits were too generous and the company would be fined a $110m excise tax starting in 2020. Next year premiums + high deductible will cost $22,000 for my and the hubby (only if we use them, of course). I’m getting my knee replaced in November since I know what the cost will be this year. My doctor told me that I’m not the first person he’s talked to from my company who’s getting procedures done sooner rather than later.
The government is very good at dis-incentivizing companies from treating their employees well (and interfering with a private contract between employer/employee)....that’s why I’ve stuck with them for 35 years.....
Repeal and don’t replace. So sick of all of this.
Nope. Obama care is my mortal enemy. I will fight it to my death. This law was voted on before it was even read. The court that saved it was corrupted when the same judge wrote both pro and con summations. I lived over 50 years without serving jail time. Thanks to Obama care - I am now a tax felon because I refuse to buy a service I do not want. Cannot afford its premiums. And if I pay the penalty, I do not eat. Obama care is trying to kill me. I am its mortal enemy.
Obamacare is like Roe v. Wade. While not enemies of big government liberals who hate freedom and hate life, both are the enemy of decent people for as long as they exist. Obamacare must be repealed. Graham-Cassidy didn't do that, but I was willing to tolerate it as a small step in the right direction. I will give up on that priority when I die or Obamacare dies, but not before.
Ditto on your comments. Not sure what middle income means in the article. From what I’ve read, many people with incomes between 300% and 400% of FPL are not signing up even though they are eligible for exchange subsidies.
Where are they wrong?
Any replacement would have been fine, they could have tweaked it later, the main point was to repeal Obamacare now.
If you're passing something in order to tweak it then why not just tweak Obamacare?
Deal with it.
Then destroy it. Don't replace it with some half-assed plan that is could wind up being as bad as Obamacare in its own way.
If the repeal is dead (which GC wasn’t), then so is obamacare. The death spiral cannot be stopped without legislative or executive action to prop it up “Weekend at Bernie’s” style. And I doubt President Trump is going to sign any EOs to that effect.
Agreed.
Obama passed Obamacare with 100% Democrat support.
Trump has made two efforts to “fix” Obamacare, but the Democrats won’t help (neither will the GOPe).
Obamacare is crashing and burning in spectacular fashion.
Trump can (and should) just stand there and do nothing. “I tried to help”. And then make a new deal which is very different from what has been proposed before.
Which would be what?
I’d recommend less government control.
Sell across state lines.
No mandate.
Tort reform.
Catastrophic insurance for those who want it.
Insurance coverage is not a right. But health care can be more affordable if the marketplace has a bigger role and the government has a smaller role.
My question is what the President would be recommending. If you listen to him on the subject during the campaign then nothing that Congress has come up with has been close. Yet Trump has jumped on every one as if it were the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Sell across state lines.
Five states already allow it and in not a single one has an insurance company sold a premium. There is no interest on the part of the companies to sell across state lines. There's nothing in it for them.
No mandate.
Included in most proposals I've seen. But that doesn't mean the President is on board with it.
Tort reform.
Over 50 states have enacted tort reform capping the payout on malpractice cases. And in not a single one of them is there any evidence that it has reduced health care premiums. Malpractice insurance premiums, yes. But not health care premiums.
Catastrophic insurance for those who want it.
I don't disagree with that in principle. I think it's very short-sighted on the part of the policy holder but it's their mistake to make.
Insurance coverage is not a right. But health care can be more affordable if the marketplace has a bigger role and the government has a smaller role.
How about just repealing Obamacare and getting government out of it entirely?
Correction. Over 26 states have enacted tort reform. Not enough coffee this morning I guess.
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