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Lamar Alexander +Patty Murray -save the illegal subsidies Congress never passed, ordered by obama
The Hill ^ | 10/17/2017 | SELF

Posted on 10/17/2017 1:11:57 PM PDT by John S Mosby

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Lamar Alexander (ghosting for Corker's role in the Iran Deal that also illegally usurped the Constitutional powers of Congress to approve actual treaties-- in the Iran Deal), has a deal chucky schlumer loves-- that invents-- whole cloth an actual spending bill for the subsidies obama illegally spent without Congress approval- in the FIRST place. This is to continue to prop up Big Insurance who have made a bonanza from subsidized mandate as originally pitched to them by the socialists (with the intention of causing the insurers to be driven out of business as they discovered following their obvious greed), and by Big Pharma. Importantly this would CONTINUE the mandate for yet another two years (so Lamar can "debate" this, not having enough time in the last 8 freaking years!!) on citizens to have to have coverage (as unconstitutionally decided by the shaken down Justice Roberts) enforced by the IRS!!!

Kick the can, continues. Trump is BRILLIANT! Eliminate the illegal subsidies and watch them squeal, and fall over themselves using the subsidy politics of YET ANOTHER created entitlement paid for by all of us UN-subsidized citizens who have had our premium literally quadruple in 6 years!!

Frankly, this "deal" is desperation from them (listen to the moronic Patty Murray tut tut about "chaos" they let happen... the ultraliberals), because hitlery didn't win to continue the REAL driver in this, and the support for IRAN nuke deal by the two TN senators (all the while publicly saying they were against it, and then the Corker Amendment...voila illegal!!) and dems in the TN legislative team: the publicly discussed (and then quickly hidden) proposal to privatize the Tennessee Valley Assn-- impacting not only TN, but all the waterways into AL, MS, GA and down to FL, and parts of NC!! A special "insider" transfer of ownership, not unlike the $1 transfer of military bases- that done for example with the Naval Training Center, Orlando, FL... to Penny Pritzker and the Pritzker real estate empire (it happened folks, by the ostensibly republican mayor Glenda Hood, and it could happen with TVA- it was proposed, and then disappeared from the media). The obama payoff which was to be extended right into a hitlery nightmare administration.... bribery on a vast scale.

The only reason Alexander is doing this is that both he and Corker are in the crosshairs from TN conservatives, for this and many other reasons. Also, Marsha Blackburn, TN (R) is after Corker's job and they are positioning with McConnell's help to isolate her from any chance of getting through the primaries. Dirty rotten bastards, both to them-- bushies, and especially rinos for for Romneycare, blessing the nation with the idiocy that is Massachusetts welfare state. While the "leaders" have their offshore brokerage investment "income" and laundry in the Caymans (sniff).

1 posted on 10/17/2017 1:11:57 PM PDT by John S Mosby
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To: John S Mosby

It took them what a week to find a way to bail out the insurance companies but just can’t seem to find a way to bail out the citizens and stop this crap with almost 8 years!


2 posted on 10/17/2017 1:14:58 PM PDT by mazda77
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I wonder what kind of a payoff Lamar has coming when he quits politics.

What scum.


3 posted on 10/17/2017 1:17:07 PM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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You’re dead on correct. What absolute lying slimeballs. They WANT obamacare, and/or want it to kick the can with the subsidies so they can make it through the elections, and not get their asses handed to them. What chicken crap chislers. Only to happy to keep making us all pay. And.... of course
“CHECK THE BOX” to prevent the IRS from fining us for “not being insured”, while our out of pocket premiums skyrocket in the Transfer of wealth. These are big government RINOs elitists, who are destroying this country. In TN’s case— the subsidies keep TennCare afloat— poor people in TN, kept poor by these jackasses.


4 posted on 10/17/2017 1:19:28 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Doesn’t Trump have the ability to veto this?


5 posted on 10/17/2017 1:21:28 PM PDT by dforest
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Someone needs to sue in Federal Court if they pass this bill and tie it up.

And President Trump can veto it, and watch everyone squeal.


6 posted on 10/17/2017 1:22:20 PM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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Keeping in mind that (remember Gruber) obamaumaocare was designed to FAIL, so that it would DRIVE politically the “need” for single payer.... ie. you and me and everyone left trying to run a small business and not be creamed by mandates, and staffing restrictions to avoid them— and thus NOT grow our businesses.

Lamar and the “Cork”. They hear the footsteps, running after them. This is Bush/Romney/ bullcrap politics (the same one that got the un-wanted Part D for “seniors”) More entitlements that dems love, given away by our RINO turds.


7 posted on 10/17/2017 1:22:34 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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I filed yesterday and paid my fine for now having insurance. It was a lot cheaper than having it.


8 posted on 10/17/2017 1:23:08 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: dforest

Right now it is supposedly a plan that can pass because it has Democrat support. The question is how many will actually vote for it. If it is over 66 he can but then they override.

These dip sheets are now driving the coffin nails with a sledge hammer.


9 posted on 10/17/2017 1:31:28 PM PDT by mazda77
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good post. going to give lamar’s office a call.


10 posted on 10/17/2017 1:33:09 PM PDT by dadfly
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This is total BS.

Trump has already signaled support for this bailout of the 1% - where’s Occupy Wall Street now?

I will absolutely no longer support the GOP if this monstrosity passes. You idiots had your change to repeal and replace and McCain and the democrats didn’t want it. Well the blame on damages for Obamacare lays with them. Do NOT reward support for Obamacare - kill it NOW.


11 posted on 10/17/2017 1:37:32 PM PDT by Skywise
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I’m pretty sure Obama’s team has something on Corker. He seems pretty intent on working for the other side


12 posted on 10/17/2017 1:43:56 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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Yes but he won’t.. trump is not idealogical like most of you think he is. trump only killed the subsidy because they were illegal and he wanted congress to do its job and come up with bill to make them legal.


13 posted on 10/17/2017 1:50:13 PM PDT by scbison
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Yes. Judicial Watch, for example. Meanwhile— the brilliance of exposing the illegal obama-spent (Presidents cannot spend money that is not Congressionally approved— it was an impeachable offence, btw- good luck with that), and therefore Constitutionally stopping an illegal action: this action on Trump’s part stops the subsidies upon which many people were propped up to meet the mandate checkbox. Equal protection under the law in the face of this totally legal removal of the subsidy, forces the practical removal of ANY mandate (no more cherry picking enforcement), and shuts down the entire set up. From which true healthcare reform that is market based, can be built.

All Lamar is doing is kicking the can, to buy political time and keep the “masses” happy until they can shiv us again. That is doing the exact bidding of the socialists who designed obamaumaocare to fail and cause the great political shift and demand from the expanding gibsmedat State... for single government payor (what Bernie calls “medicare for all”- including illegal aliens/ie voters). What de Tocqueville said would destory our country-— they are trying to do it, right now. Vote for money.


14 posted on 10/17/2017 1:52:19 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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They couldn’t/wouldn’t do it without Trump’s support.


15 posted on 10/17/2017 1:54:25 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: John S Mosby

Veto it


16 posted on 10/17/2017 1:54:56 PM PDT by RatRipper (Unindicted co-conspirators: the Mainstream Media and the Democratic Party)
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I know— it is a test of what would be a “deal” and what would be saving our country from destruction. Speaking as a conservative, large C, small government, non-mil/industrial/medical complex business person.
This is Jacksonian, at least relative to the South. Listen to where the squeals come from— and will find it is Taxachusetts, the bankrupting CT, and New England Berniebots, as well as the Romneycarebots. Anything that continues the premium spiral up, and pumps up the nanny State and kills small business-— look out!!


17 posted on 10/17/2017 1:58:07 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Agree— and point out the “sneaker mom” Patty from neo-Marxist Washington State and the “education/laborite” Alexander from TN.... both Progressives. Prayers for wisdom of Trump (whom the radio says is “signalling” support for this.... to avoid “chaos”). The “chaos” right in the middle of enrollment for private and public/subsidy insurance (how convenient)— caused by their very selves in the Senate.... after 8 years and terrabytes of “debate” and financial reality facts of this idiocy of them and their system.


18 posted on 10/17/2017 2:01:59 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: x1stcav

I’m embarrassed to be from Tennessee.

We need better representation


19 posted on 10/17/2017 2:05:00 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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Suddenly the sleazy legislators can find a way to take my money and give it to big business.

How nice.

Thanks Lamar. I won’t forget.


20 posted on 10/17/2017 2:08:14 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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