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Court: Cross-shaped WWI memorial is unconstitutional
MSN News ^ | 10/19/2017 | Hannah Lang

Posted on 10/19/2017 12:55:53 PM PDT by detective

A federal appeals court has ruled that a 40-foot cross-shaped Maryland monument honoring soldiers who died in World War I is unconstitutional, saying it violates the separation between church and state.

The 4th US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Wednesday that the 92-year-old structure was in violation of the First Amendment because it is on public land at a busy intersection in Prince George's County and is maintained with government funds. The court's decision does not address whether the monument should be removed or modified.

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The court ruled that a 92-year-old memorial was in violation of the First Amendment because it is on public land and must be removed.
1 posted on 10/19/2017 12:55:53 PM PDT by detective
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So much for the first amendment.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;


2 posted on 10/19/2017 12:57:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: detective

Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

This kind of thing just makes me sick.


3 posted on 10/19/2017 12:59:09 PM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Lazamataz
October 11, the day after the Revolution. I set off down Pennsylvania Avenue. I could barely see the Capitol Dome, due to all of the corpses in black robes which were hanging from the lampposts...


4 posted on 10/19/2017 1:00:37 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: detective

For 92 years no one saw any problem or constitutional issue. Suddenly, leftists became “enlightened.”


5 posted on 10/19/2017 1:02:52 PM PDT by fwdude (The perverted left-bound train is always accusing the train station of "moving right.")
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To: detective

I just want to know when civil war II is coming because I’m actually looking forward to it. So many scores to settle.


6 posted on 10/19/2017 1:06:54 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: detective

Many of our courts are 100% stupid and anti-America. Many members should be in jail or deposited in a landfill.


7 posted on 10/19/2017 1:07:25 PM PDT by mulligan (The)
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To: detective

Banner year for the commies

Confederate flag - erased
Civil war monuments - erased
Confederate General statues - erased
Christopher Columbus - erased
Veteran Memorial cross - erased


8 posted on 10/19/2017 1:09:02 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: SpaceBar

I agree with all these comments, but how stupid are you if you’re a government that owns one of those these days? Sell the little piece of land to a nonprofit and you’re home free and the perpetually aggrieved can just stuff it.


9 posted on 10/19/2017 1:09:27 PM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,000 Posts as of 8/11/17! Still not shutting up after all these years!)
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To: redcatcherb412

“Confederate flag - erased
Civil war monuments - erased
Confederate General statues - erased
Christopher Columbus - erased
Veteran Memorial cross - erased”


And you can be absolutely sure that Trump will be blamed for this because he’s a white supremacist,therefore he created the hate.

.


10 posted on 10/19/2017 1:11:47 PM PDT by Mears
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To: detective

Ridiculous


11 posted on 10/19/2017 1:14:10 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth. In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names."
12 posted on 10/19/2017 1:14:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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“...Banner year for the commies

Confederate flag - erased
Civil war monuments - erased
Confederate General statues - erased
Christopher Columbus - erased
Veteran Memorial cross - erased....”

Yep. And all done under a so-called “Republican AG, Congress & WH. Outright shameful.


13 posted on 10/19/2017 1:14:42 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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if you’re a government that owns one of those these days? Sell the little piece of land to a nonprofit

Amen, or donate the memorial site to the VFW. They never seem to see a rational alternative other than destroy it.

14 posted on 10/19/2017 1:16:00 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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It needs to happen. The country is going to collapse anyway. There is no way these people will give up.


15 posted on 10/19/2017 1:17:49 PM PDT by madprof98
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These fools on the left are acting as if they are sold out for this “and” concept, as if two things which coexist and which compete for the ultimate loyalties of the people can in fact be separate.

But they cannot be, for that would be like saying men should have two masters: the State and their faith and one has a domain that the other must not ever intrude upon ... and of course since EVERYTHING is political the point of separation must be in favor of the domain on the State.

The Church may be separate from the state ... in which case men are free first and foremost in their consciences before the divine, however they understand such

The State may be separate from the church ... in which case it has need of suitable police powers with which it can protect itself from any improper influence, even that which arises because of the beliefs of the people, and with those powers the ability to DO SOMETHING about those who aren’t content with whatever space the a State permits their faith to dwell in.

The first is the way of Liberty where men are empowered to try to regulate their government, and society, no matter what the source of or what informs their consciences.

The latter is the road to bondage.

There is no middle ground possible. There is no “and” separation where they are concurrent but mutually exclusive.

Either men are free and the State held powerless to defend itself when they act in the public space EVEN if they do so as informed by their understanding of the divine ...

... either that or men are held powerless to influence the State in any way it’s elites deem improper or for whatever cause they deem improper.

A man cannot happily serve two masters. The secular left understands this even as they hide behind the pretext that they can “and” even as, all along, they are doing what they can to support the one master whom they serve and whom they trust and thereby remove God whom they do not serve and whom they do not trust.

One can even look at the Islamophilia of the left through this lens: Christianity is their enemy and having easily offended Muslims whose Offendsensitivity is predicated in their book is a handy pretext to expunge Christian influence.


16 posted on 10/19/2017 1:20:20 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: redcatcherb412

The kicked the Constitution to the curb years ago, in the 30s.


17 posted on 10/19/2017 1:21:29 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: detective

Trump needs to speak out on this.

The Judicary was never meant to be host to zealous Marxist scum. It is a perverted form from the Founders intended


18 posted on 10/19/2017 1:24:03 PM PDT by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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But the satanic statute is?...folks they’re winning!! Little by little the communist black ropes and liberal SOB’s are removing our heritage! We need to start filing lawsuits against those black rope buttholes or do SOMETHING...asap!!


19 posted on 10/19/2017 1:24:27 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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How about, instead, We the People take back control of our government, including the black robed despots and force adherence to what the Constitution actually says?


20 posted on 10/19/2017 1:24:33 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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