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First details emerge of GOP's sweeping tax bill
The Hill ^ | 11/02/2017 | NAOMI JAGODA AND SCOTT WONG

Posted on 11/02/2017 7:21:40 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: sphinx
The deductibility of state and local taxes is simply a subsidy to high tax, high spending state and local governments

Not true. Many of the high tax states (NY, CA, NJ, etc.) subsidize the low tax states in terms of federal revenue sent to Washington and money received back. Some states get back pennies on the dollar, some get back several dollars.

Further, by eliminating the deduction, there will be no incentive for localities and states to lower their tax burden on families. The families will simply be punished. If the GOP wants to play raw politics, this isn't the way to go about it.

81 posted on 11/02/2017 8:22:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Jonny7797

Yes, sorry. For individuals anyone currently earning less than $9300 are completely exempt. For married couples, that’s $18,650.


82 posted on 11/02/2017 8:23:08 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: GIdget2004
including limits on pre-tax contributions to 401(k) plans and including repeal of ObamaCare’s individual mandate, were apparently not included

Get the tar and feathers ready - we're going to need a lot.

83 posted on 11/02/2017 8:23:19 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: nikos1121
Is there anything regarding the death tax?

I thought they said it will be eliminated.

84 posted on 11/02/2017 8:23:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
I hope that there is a revolution in New York to cut the taxes, state and school taxes are legal robbery.

There won't be. Armed insurrection is not a viable option. If that is what the GOP in Washington is trying to gain with all of this, they are loony.

85 posted on 11/02/2017 8:23:32 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: central_va

According to the Journal, no. But the standard deduction is doubled so that should cover the bottom bracket.


86 posted on 11/02/2017 8:24:50 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: NohSpinZone

If this bill eliminates exemptions I don’t understand how most middle class families wont be screwed?


87 posted on 11/02/2017 8:25:41 AM PDT by NYFreedom
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To: GIdget2004

If Steve King is against it, it must be good for the USA.


88 posted on 11/02/2017 8:26:09 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: NohSpinZone

Looks like my “effective” tax rate will be the same. A nothing burger. (I hate that expression)


89 posted on 11/02/2017 8:26:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Scotswife

Does this apply to your taxes?

“The legislation being unveiled Wednesday increases the child tax credit to $1,600 from its current per-child maximum of $1,000. A Tax Policy Center Center analysis of an earlier proposal, which would have increased the credit to $1,500, noted that it would mostly have benefited higher-income taxpayers.

The bill also makes wealthy families eligible for an expanded child credit, deemed a “family credit” by House Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady (R-Texas). While the credit currently phases out for incomes above $115,000, the Republican bill would push the threshold to $230,000.


90 posted on 11/02/2017 8:26:59 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: NohSpinZone

Actually, correction. There is no zero percent bracket anymore. The tax base does get broader as a result; however, the standard deduction is doubled, which should cover the lowest tier.


91 posted on 11/02/2017 8:27:01 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Jonny7797; Mariner
Mariner is correct regarding the current framework and proposals.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/republican-tax-plan-to-lower-cap-on-mortgage-interest-deduction-to-500000-loans/2017/11/02/c0f594d6-bfd5-11e7-8444-a0d4f04b89eb_story.html?utm_term=.70a8c9f6cc02

- It would cut in half the popular mortgage interest deduction used by millions of American homeowners, capping this tax deduction at new mortgages of $500,000 or less.

- This change could have a particularly big impact on high-cost areas, such as San Francisco, New York, Boston, and the Washington D.C. area, and housing groups and lawmakers will likely try to defeat it. The bill would allow people to deduct their local property taxes from their taxable income, though this benefit would be capped at $10,000.

- Families would also no longer be able to deduct their state income taxes from their federal taxable income, another change that would have a particular impact on places like New Jersey and New York, where state taxes are higher than in other areas. Taxpayers will be able to deduct their property taxes up to $10,000.

- Americans would no longer be able to deduct their medical expenses or property and casualty losses, according to a document outlining the plan.

- Other changes in the bill would be far reaching. It would, for example, make changes to college savings programs and have new requirements for tax-exempt organizations like churches and charities.

92 posted on 11/02/2017 8:28:03 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: crz

“Oh, and the Jews will get the blame again. Gotta have a scape goat”

Always happy to be of service.

(Yes, sarcasm. You’re right, of course.)


93 posted on 11/02/2017 8:28:08 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: NYFreedom

If you’re in the high-income states, that’s right, they get screwed.


94 posted on 11/02/2017 8:28:21 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: NYFreedom
If this bill eliminates exemptions I don’t understand how most middle class families wont be screwed?

Millions of families will be screwed.

The corporations are the clear "winner." They get their rate slashed to 20%. Other people will have to "pay for" that.

95 posted on 11/02/2017 8:29:15 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
If that is what the GOP in Washington is trying to gain with all of this, they are loony.

I hope this doesn't in effect create a new tax instead of a tax cut.

96 posted on 11/02/2017 8:29:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Starting in 2024. Until then, it’s marginal rate of 40% for anything above $5.4M


97 posted on 11/02/2017 8:30:07 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: SkyPilot

I understand all of that but my point is if the brackets are wide enough, those lost deductions will be offset.


98 posted on 11/02/2017 8:31:51 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: GIdget2004

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99 posted on 11/02/2017 8:35:32 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: GIdget2004

Republicans are idiots. Total idiots.

Not that this is shocking news.

1. They buy into the democrat deception of “paying for tax cuts.”
2. They buy into the socialist mantra of progressive taxation.
3. They are lowering rates and taking away deductions so that it isn’t a tax cut.
4. The next time demoncrats are in office, they can raise rates and there will be fewer deductions, thanks to RINOpublicans.
5. They are doing their best to alienate voters in the most populous states.

I am so glad I stopped being a taxpayer.


100 posted on 11/02/2017 8:36:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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