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The Trump administration says we have to kill elephants to help save them. The data says otherwise.
MSN / Washington Post ^ | November 17, 2017

Posted on 11/17/2017 3:14:54 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: Southnsoul

And I don’t buy this argument that allowing them to be hunted without restriction makes them safer.


You forgot the /S

No one is for allowing them to be hunted without restrictions.


61 posted on 11/17/2017 6:18:38 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: LukeL

Elephant herds are matriarchal, IIRC.


62 posted on 11/17/2017 6:31:39 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Electric Graffiti

If it meant keeping them going extinct, yes, I would support sending troops to protect them. Our troops have protected worse.

Thankfully, I’m hearing that the President is delaying this policy of allowing the elephants to be hunted. I hope it’s permanently.


63 posted on 11/17/2017 6:43:50 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: marktwain

So what else is regulated in Zimbabwe ? I’d love to see the papers the Interior Department was given to authorize this. Because the Endangered Species Act allows hunting trophies to be imported only if the federal government finds that killing them positively enhances the survival of the species. How can one of the most corrupt countries on earth possibly be managing its elephant population in a sustainable manner ? Especially given that government officials been involved in both poaching of elephants and illegal export of ivory tusks.


64 posted on 11/17/2017 11:56:13 PM PST by erlayman (yw)
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To: boycott

I Trump waited for “everyone to be comfortable that the timing was right”, he’d be getting zero done instead of working tirelessly despite all the opposition and those who get “uncomfortable”....


65 posted on 11/18/2017 3:10:49 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: erlayman

Allowing importation of trophies puts the incentives in place to regulate elephant populations sustainably.

It is hard to see how it could make the situation worse. Zimbabwe has had periods where management worked, even under Mugabe.


66 posted on 11/18/2017 4:35:36 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Under Obama, the practice had been banned because of a lack of data on conservation efforts in Zimbabwe. So there is data now ?


67 posted on 11/18/2017 5:51:23 AM PST by erlayman (yw)
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To: erlayman

Obama did a lot of bad things.


68 posted on 11/18/2017 5:54:24 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

I’m asking where the data is buried, which the Humane Society cannot seem to find either.


69 posted on 11/18/2017 5:59:03 AM PST by erlayman (yw)
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To: trebb

I am glad to see he reversed his decision.

I wish he would have never brought the attention to it but in the end, I believe he will prove to be on the right side of the issue. Keep the ban in place.


70 posted on 11/18/2017 7:38:16 AM PST by boycott
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To: marktwain

LOL


71 posted on 11/18/2017 10:06:27 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell / Ryan: Why pass Cons legislation when we can pass Leftist legislation for Leftists?)
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To: marktwain

Maybe this will help:

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/08/wildlife-african-elephants-population-decrease-great-elephant-census/


72 posted on 11/18/2017 10:42:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell / Ryan: Why pass Cons legislation when we can pass Leftist legislation for Leftists?)
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To: Southnsoul

Oh, well, since YOU don’t buy that argument I guess that settles it.
Nevermind what the experts in charge of helping the elephants said.


73 posted on 11/18/2017 12:10:57 PM PST by Mr. K (NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF)
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