Posted on 12/02/2017 1:37:52 AM PST by Kaslin
He just wants a reason to bitch. He’s a never-Trumper. He’s done nothing but whine and bitch since Trump put himself in the ring - but he thinks none of us see through his crap veneer.
Do you have a link?
Why don’t you go back to DU? You’d truly be more at home there.
Entire tomes have been written about why that statement is so ignorant.
Folks, the idea is to reduce taxes.
Get with the program.
This isn’t, I like this tax cut because it’s okay, and I don’t like that tax cut because it isn’t okay.
Every dime freed up and moved into the private sector will spur the economy.
Since when do we not like ANY TAX CUT that is offered?
Good freakin grief. Choose to be happy.
Agree - but the way some of these so-called thinkers react is to always toss the good for the perfect. So we never even get to first base while they call the shots. A half loaf is better than no loaf, but they’d rather starve - which is fine if they are the only ones to go hungry. As usual the reality is that they take the rest of us down with them, selfish pricks.
If the money is repatriated at a lower tax rate, yes, I really think it should have to be spent on US jobs for US citizens and to raise lower and middle class wages. This money was acquired to a great degree by moving manufacturing overseas to avoid paying wages to US workers. No tariff was charged to bring those cheap-labor goods into the US. Why should companies that did that be rewarded? Keep in mind that with banking crisis money, a lot of those funds were used to line the pockets of upper tier employees and to buy out smaller more local banks that were competing with them. Do you really think we should take the risk of that money being used in such a way, after getting a tax break?
Of course we should be concerned. The Sounds of Silence about EVerify say all we need to know about the intentions to use this money to bolster a return of the middle-class economy.
Why are you subsidizing a blue state? Move. When these high tax states lose enough population, they will also lose representation in Congress. There is no reason that I should be subsidizing your state tax deduction.
Wading into the water here. . .
if home prices do indeed drop in every state as you cite. . .
can this not also benefit the millions who are priced out of the housing market?
Living in the sf bay area, where the median home price is well nigh a million. . . you have to have the salary of two doctors to get in. . .
I agree 100%.
Well stated!
Don’t forget, how much was that $500,000 house worth twenty years ago, or thirty. Houses appreciate so at some point, all houses will exceed that fixed number and everyone will lose this deduction.
LOL. Nice handle.
That wasn't me who did that. I am not a DU poster. I have been here on FR for 19 years.
On the tax bill, the outcome I hoped for did not prevail. That is the way things are. What am I going to do? Write a book called "What Happened?" and go on tour?
Trump promised tax cuts for the middle class ("the forgotten men and women") during his campaign. I have the quotes and videos.
This tax bill isn't what he promised. That is not my doing or my fault.
Time for me to move on. I'll simply be cutting bigger checks to the IRS.
I don't have to like it. Folks on your side want me to.
I don't know why.
Its time to reform States and local taxes and stop the growth of governments.
Its time to admit the founders were wrong. All this crazy talk about federalism, states rights, and that by the people was all just so much blather.
The benevolent Feds shall rule over the states and peoples. All power came from the Feds, and all power shall accrue to the Feds.
Those who would create gods should be careful of power shifts.
“selfish pricks.”
Yes, they are, and they come in all political persuasions. One of the paramount reasons we’re in the pickle we are today is that fact that everyone sees “the way to prosperity and freedom” through the narrow prism of their own self-interest. The most obvious example is those who continue to go to NFL games. Thirty years ago, if the NFL had tried to pull this crap, they would have been out of business in a couple of months.
I never said that. I said the House and Senate tax bills were written for and by the donors.
Even Rep Chris Collins (R-NY) acknowledged that.
Top GOP congressman: My donors told me to pass the Republican tax bill or 'don't ever call me again'
The basic structure of both the House and Senate tax bills is this:
- lower the corporate rate from 35% to 20%
- make up for the lost revenue by eliminating or capping deductions for the middle class and upper middle class
You talking about me?
I am not (nor was I ever) a never-Trumper.
Houses appreciate so at some point, all houses will exceed that fixed number and everyone will lose this deduction.
Forest; trees.
At some point, people may realize that a malevolent, all-powerful, centralized government was built by its victims willing consent to incremental taxation and relentless growth.
Just curious. How much federal tax did you pay last year?
I read earlier that Flake wouldn’t vote for it if it didn’t have daca amnesty in it. Anyone know if that’s in it?
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