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The Navy Is Changing Its Plans for its Dumbed-Down Zumwalts and Their Ammoless Guns
The Drive ^ | DECEMBER 5, 2017 | JOSEPH TREVITHICK

Posted on 12/06/2017 7:30:02 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

The future USS Michael Monsoor, set to become the U.S. Navy’s second stealthy Zumwalt-class destroyer, is underway for the first time for sea trials. The milestone comes as the service continues to reformulate the role of the ships, now saying they will be focused on attacking surface targets at sea, as well as on land, while the vessels' future seems as uncertain as ever in the face of continuing budget shortfalls and personnel problems.

The second Zumwalt-class ship, also known as DDG-1001, sailed down the Kennebec River in Maine, on its way to the Altantic Ocean from Bath Iron Works (BIW) shipyards, giving journalists and others on the shoreline ample opportunity to grab a peek and take photos of one America’s most advanced warships. The Navy expects to commission the USS Michael Monsoor in 2018. BIW laid down the hull of the third and final ship in the class, the future USS Lyndon B. Johnson, in January 2017.

“Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001) is currently on Builders Trials, testing the hull, mechanical and engineering components of the ship,” Bath Iron Works said in a statement, according to the Portland Press Herald. “While all these systems are tested pier-side, there is no substitute for the real world testing taking place in the Gulf of Maine.”

Getting the second stealthy ship out to sea is an important achievement for both the Navy and BIW. The Zumwalt-class has been controversial to say the least and is the end result of a meandering set of often changing requirements and proposed ship concepts dating back to the 1990s.

The class was originally supposed to consist of 32 ships in total and has shrunk to a planned purchase of just three, with each one having a price tag of $4 billion. That’s not counting another $10 billion in research and development costs, either.

At the same time, though, the Navy has steadily hacked away at various requirements, stripping planned systems from the design, in no small part to try and control any further cost overruns and delays. Close-in protection, ballistic and air defense capabilities, and various other associated systems are no longer part of the base design, something The War Zone’s own Tyler Rogoway explained in detail in a past feature, leaving it with limited utility despite its size and cost.

In September 2016, he wrote:

“The various omissions in the Zumwalt’s capability have resulted in a ship that is focused on chucking cruise missiles and sending GPS guided cannon shells dozens of miles inland. But if the Navy wants a stealth Tomahawk chucker, guess what? They already have four of them with far more vertical launch cells than the DDG-1000 has. These are the converted Ohio class nuclear-powered guided missile submarines (SSGNs). In the coming years, Virginia class nuclear fast attack submarines with extended payload modules will take up this role as the four converted Ohio class SSGNs are retired.

“Minus its 155mm guns, has the stripped-down, anti-air mission-less Zumwalt become a far more vulnerable above-water guided missile submarine? A stealthy anti-submarine, special operations, and land attack arsenal ship? If so, why not build more submarines instead? They would be far more survivable and can stay on station much longer than the Zumwalt.”

To add insult to injury, in November 2016, the Navy admitted it had cancelled plans to buy the specialized and exorbitantly expensive Long-Range Land Attack Projectile (LRLAP), each of which would have cost some $800,000, for the Zumwalt’s main guns without an immediate replacement shell in the works. This effectively left one of the ship's key weapons as dead weight. There ships will also receive various additional systems in the form of add-on packages attached to the deckhouse and elsewhere, which can only impact the ship’s finely tuned, complex, and expensive stealth shape in a negative manner.

The Portland Press Herald reported that, while she is officially in service, Zumwalt is still in the process of receiving unspecified weapons and critical mission systems at her homeport of San Diego. Now, struggling to find a job for the ships, the Navy says it wants to turn them effectively into floating arsenal ships full of stand-off weapons to strike at targets ashore and at sea.

JOEL PAGE/PORTLAND PRESS HERALD VIA AP

The future USS Michael Monsoor sits at Bath Iron Works in Maine during her christening ceremony in 2016.

On Dec. 4, 2017, U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Ron Boxall, the service’s director for surface warfare, told USNI News that officials were rethinking the Zumwalt-class’ requirements in light of experiences with the much maligned Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) and the new Guided Missile Frigate Replacement Program, or FFG(X). The stories definitely having some similarities, with the Navy struggling to improve the capabilities of the chronically under-performing LCS ships, before deciding to curtail its purchases and pursue a new design, which you can read about in more detail here.

“Let’s get this same type of team together and take DDG-1000, which has some of the most advanced capabilities of any ship we’ve ever produced, and at the same time look at some of the challenges we’ve had,” Boxall explained. “So looking at where we go with that [155mm] gun, how we can take advantage of what that ship is good at, and come up with a new set of requirements.”

“Obviously, a lot of those are classified, but the good news is that we’re going to look at focusing that ship more on offensive surface strike,” he continued. “And so this ship was already designed to do some of that mission, but we were focused on the very clear requirement we wrote for this ship in 1995, and the world has changed quite a bit since then. And so we’re modifying the missions and where we are with it.”

It’s not necessarily a bad idea, at least in principle. As we at The War Zone highlight routinely, developments in various, so-called “anti-access/area denial” systems, such as supersonic and hypersonic anti-ship missiles and progressively longer range integrated air defenses, pose an increasing threat to surface ships and any aircraft they might be carrying on board.

But more realistically, this is just the cheapest and easiest way to find an useful operational niche for the ships to fill. Focusing the stealth destroyers on this particular mission set is almost just a matter of filling the ships’ vertical launch system cells with a mix of land-attack and future over-the-horizon anti-ship cruise missiles, and maybe even finding usable ammunition of some sort for its main guns, but that isn't really even a show stopper.

The Navy may not even have to split the Zumwalt's 80 vertical launch system cells between two types of weapons as it proceeds with development of new versions of the Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM) that have an anti-ship capability. At present, the cells are partially dedicated to highly localized air defense, stuffed with quad-packed RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles. Those weapons could also offer a limited close-in defense against small swarming ships, as well.

The guns would present a different challenge. Even with the now cancelled LRLAP round, which featured a combination of GPS and inertial navigation as the guidance method, these weapons would have have been mainly useful against static targets, not mobile ships on the high seas. Using existing Army guided artillery rounds, such as Excalibur, would have run into the same problem, but the range of each shell would suffer badly compared to the LRLAP.

The Navy is working on a shell that can hit moving targets and do so in the increasingly likely event that an enemy is jamming GPS signals, but this ammunition is still in the research and development phase and it would require a forward deployed "third party{ asset to laser-designate the target. Work on an advanced electromagnetic railgun, which was one possible eventual replacement for the Zumwalt’s 155mm guns, but it is still similarly not in a state where an operational weapon is viable.

In high-threat scenarios, these newly refocused Zumwalts would be best suited to operating ahead of a larger force, making use of networked data links for stand-off targeting information, but still under the outer edge of an air defense umbrella provided by other assets, such as the Navy's Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. They will undoubtedly leverage the Navy's expanding Navy Integrated Fire Control-Counter Air, or NFIC-CA, for this surface strike role, something that it is almost certainly planning to do already.

This ambitious networking plan focuses on providing common data links between ships, aircraft, drones, and any other relevant asset to rapidly pass targeting information back and forth seamlessly. With the system in place, a Zumwalt could potentially launch cruise missiles at land or naval targets at maximum standoff range and in its maximum stealth mode, using data from various external sources, life stealth aircraft and satellites.

It could also pass control off of its launches cruise missiles to other assets operating nearer to the target area if necessary. With their own limited close-in defenses and degraded low observable design, the Zumwalts may still not be able to get close enough to take out more heavily defended targets ashore, though, including long-range radar sites.

But there's a real question about whether or not giving the three-ship Zumwalt-class this operational mission makes practical sense or not. Making the stealth destroyers the service's premier means of striking at enemy surface vessels, as well as land targets, in denied areas ahead of a major naval task for might give the ships something to do, but there would be few of them to go around in an actual contingency or during normal patrols. Also, this role is better served by submarines, both guided missile SSGN and fast attack SSN types, although the Zumwalts bring some networking and flexibility advantages to the fray. But are these small advantages enough to justify this limited role for the $22B class?

The fact that the service will stick the stealthy ships into Zumwalt Squadron One, rather than a unit that describes its function, such as a destroyer squadron, is another possible hint that it might still not know exactly what it wants to do with the ships.

On top of that, the costs to deploy and operate the unique ships could be significant separate from any other considerations. The Navy would have to weigh those costs against a number of other, more pressing priorities, including just making sure the surface force can meet its most basic operational obligations. A string of embarrassing and deadly accidents earlier 2017 has exposed serious, systemic issues that will take years to correct, even with appropriate funding, stable budgets, and clear vision.

In September 2017, Secretary of the Navy Richard Spencer and U.S. Navy Chief of Naval Operations Admiral John Richardson made a shocking public disclosure during a hearing before Senate Armed Services Committee that the service was only able to meet 40 percent of the total demand for surface warships at any one time. The next month, details emerged about a worrying maintenance backlog that was keeping attack submarines pierside for months on end – more than two years in the case of the Los Angeles-class USS Boise – in some cases just waiting for routine work to begin.

The sorry state of the Navy's organic shipyards and subsequent increasing strain on private contractors only compounded these issues. In April 2016, the service had to inject $450 million into the Zumwalt program itself because of concerns about BIW's performance and capacity.

Even if the Navy does deploy the Zumwalts primily in the surface strike capacity, it might not be for long as costs mount to operate the specialized stealth ships in this fairly limited role. It is still entirely possible that the Navy will see these challenges and ultimately decide to turn the Zumwalt’s into special projects and research and development vessels, just as it has done with its three Seawolf-class submarines. Or even worse they will turn into testing ships, with the small and highly unique fleet slowly cannibalizing itself to keep one hull operational. In the meantime this mission shift seems like an attempt to forestall this from happening, at least for the time being. Without the will to invest in the ships to make them what they were once intended to be, this at least gives them a notional purpose for the time being.

What's most frustrating it that it's impossible that the Navy wasn't aware of these issues and this type of potential outcome as it rabidly stripped missions and capabilities from the the class during its development cycle, keeping the program roughly on track, but making it increasingly less relevant in the process. It was a conscious and avoidable decision as we have highlighted in great detail before, and now we will have to wait and see if these ships can win what will be a bloody fiscal battle to keep them in play.


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KEYWORDS: 155mm; boondoggle; epicfail; fail; pos; usn; wasteofmoney; zumwalt
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61 posted on 12/06/2017 12:18:00 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Mariner

There is a reason countries are lining up to buy the F-35 and foregoing thinking about lower cost, less advanced planes like the F-18 or Gripen, and the Israeli assessment laid it out.

The plane is not without faults, of those it has plenty. But the upside is very high.

I heard someone say once (and I paraphrase) “If you get into a dogfight with an F-35, you have already squandered all the things that give it advantages.”


62 posted on 12/06/2017 12:27:53 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

Notice Israel refers to it as a “strategic asset”.


63 posted on 12/06/2017 12:43:32 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: rlmorel

I’ll look for the link, but it was reported the IR sensors on the F-35 once detected an AA missile test launch from Vandenberg...from 740 miles away.

And tracked it.

IR only.

Of course from that distance it had to flying high.

It can detect other aircraft and target them via IR only. No radar needed. While just about everyone has some IR detection now, this system is reportedly 3-4x more sensitive. And precise.

Moreover, it has a huge database of IR signatures on board so that it can identify what it detects and present only “threats” to the pilot.

This aircraft rarely uses its radar. When it does it’s usually to build the data network to link all other aircraft together as a single entity with a single view of the battle space. Even to control UACVs.

Imagine 4 UACVs attached to every F-35. Stealth units of course.

It’s revolutionary.


64 posted on 12/06/2017 12:53:48 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I found that a fascinating choice of words, and see that I wasn’t the only one.

Israel apparently sees the britches that the F-35 can wear as being much larger than many of our countrymen do.

But then again...the Israelis are known for taking a weapons platform and wringing every last ounce of capability out of it, which means by nature they don’t just take a tool and use it the way its predecessors were used. They are going to find out what it does well and plumb that to its depth, playing to its strengths, and minimizing its weaknesses.

Then introducing their own twists, customized electronics and ECM packages, customized native weapons systems, tactics to take advantage of them, etc. they improve the platform.

I tend to trust the Israelis on this kind of thing, they have a good track record. I hope we take the opportunity to learn from them.


65 posted on 12/06/2017 1:03:38 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

I was lead navigator on the Ault when my enlistment was up and I almost extended for 6-months to go on a Med cruise, but I had plans for going back to college.

I loved the Ault...great proud ship and crew, always spotless clean and I came very close to hanging around.

You may have read James Hornfischer’s excellent book, “The Last of the Tin Can Sailors”. Absolutely wonderful book detailing the Battle off Samar, the last ship to ship battle that took place in the U.S. Navy’s history.

Hornfischer is an outstanding military writer and this book reads like a novel.

Remember Pearl Harbor tomorrow...I’m sure I don’t have to mention it to you.


66 posted on 12/06/2017 1:14:13 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Mariner

I agree. If we want to use it like a rifle with iron sights, we are going to have a very expensive rifle that uses iron sights when alternatives 1/10th the cost will do that just fine.

I know it seems insane to have a helmet that costs $1.5 million dollars, but what that helmet brings is remarkable. The ability to “see” through the plane, and bring all the sensors into play...IR, radar, visible light, target emissions...and display them in a way for one pilot to understand and see, never mind pooling all those resources to all elements scattered over hundreds or thousands of square miles.

It is revolutionary, I agree. Because it is only marginally better or marginally worse in a visual turning dogfight than an F-16 is missing the point entirely.

I could see things like stealth powered gliders with foldable deployable wings carried internally on an F-35, maybe four to a bay, that only require the slightest push to keep them aloft, each equipped with a package to allow them to communicate visual/IR/emission data, and the F-35 flies in undetected and deploys them on a path like a minelayer.

Four of them cover an interlocking air corridor of a thousand miles distance. An airborne picket so to speak. And they just cruise silently in long rectangles for days at a time sending all manner of data, including airborne and ground traffic, communications, emissions, etc back to a single F-35, to an AWACS, or land stations or even individual commanders, squads, or soldiers on the ground.

And so on.


67 posted on 12/06/2017 1:17:34 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

Yes! I read “The Last Stand of The Tin Can Sailors” and that set me off on a six month stretch where I was reading and watching everything I could about The Battle of Leyte Gulf, because it was so compelling.

The scale of the battle was huge. The stakes were high. The sub-plots were astounding.

Halsey, itching for a fight, taking the bait, and through a common clerical error which threw gasoline on the fire, ends up to his dying days fighting what he viewed as slander by people who questioned his actions, all under the shadow of the words “The world wonders”.

On the other side, almost simultaneously, the Davids of the US Navy in Taffy3 against the Goliaths of the Imperial Japanese Navy and their battleships, darting in, really, the unbelievable parallel to “The Charge of the Light Brigade” by complete coincidence aligning with the erroneously un-scrubbed padding from the message to Halsey.

The destroyers of Taffy 3 with bones in their teeth sailed directly at the Japanese battlewagons, their five inch guns like the sabres of the Light Brigade being flashed in the air, they “Volley’d and thunder’d” like hooves, as the superstructures of the battleships flashed with impacts. They sailed under full steam to what many of them, like the calvary in Tennyson’s poem, assumed was going to be their certain death...”Someone had blunder’d”.

Halsey, in full pursuit to the north, gets the communication from his boss who is trying to discreetly ask what Halsey was up to without ruffling his feathers, ending with Halsey losing it on the bridge of the New Jersey and throwing his hat to the floor in white hot anger and shame as “All the world wonder’d” in Hawaii what was going on.

You could not make this up.

And then, Typhoon Cobra just a month or two later.

With the way they could use computer graphics to recreate that, with the real, unadulterated story line from history, that would be quite the production.

“The Battle of Leyte Gulf”.


68 posted on 12/06/2017 1:26:29 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Hornfischer had a book I read before The Last Stand of The Tin Can Sailors called Neptune's Inferno that, even though I was very well versed on the Solomons campaign, sent me through the same frenzy of looking for more information.

If you haven't read that one, it is even more compelling...and horrible. The carnage and confusion in those battles is nearly impossible to believe.

Most people don't know that there were four times as many sailors killed in the battles for the conquest of Guadalcanal than soldiers who fought on land.

69 posted on 12/06/2017 1:31:13 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

And yes. Pearl Harbor. We should remember 9/11 the same way, but it doesn’t seem that we do.


70 posted on 12/06/2017 1:33:06 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

After I sent you the post I went to Wikipedia and read the brief account of the Taffy 3 engagement; I had forgotten that the Hoel and Johnston were key players.
Truly amazing, and Halsey SHOULD be remembered for his blunder.


71 posted on 12/06/2017 1:33:56 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse

Well, I am more forgiving of the blunders of leaders in war, because...humans are fallible. People make mistakes.

And many of our seagoing leaders in WWII were old men. Not by today’s standards, of course, but back then, they were considered old men. Halsey was 60 years old when the war was in the balance in 1942. Now that is young, but back then...that was very old.

We found out early on in WWII that many of our commanders who were older could not bear up under the rigors and stress of command, and there was a concerted push to get younger, more vigorous men into positions of command.

Back to the original point...I cut our commanders some slack even when needless lives are lost, or blunders are made, because...that is war. Granted, if I am one of the needless lives lost or my relatives are, I feel differently.

I guess it is a matter of scale.

I forget who said it, he said something like “I forgave Halsey the first typhoon...it was the second one I held against him.” I kind of agree with that. Admiral McCain fell on his sword for that to protect Halsey.


72 posted on 12/06/2017 1:52:34 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel

Well said!


73 posted on 12/06/2017 2:07:07 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse

Love talking to old Navy guys on FR...:)


74 posted on 12/06/2017 2:08:14 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: rlmorel; All

‘I heard someone say once (and I paraphrase) “If you get into a dogfight with an F-35, you have already squandered all the things that give it advantages.”’

The concept of “dogfight” is changing drastically with the advent of high off-boresight missiles, and even rear-firing missiles (SU aircraft). F-35 pilots will be able to cue AIM-9X (Sidewinder) IR missiles using their helmets, similar to Apache pilots/gunners aiming their 30mm cannons by looking at the target. The F-35 is the first fighter since the ‘70s to not have a heads up display (HUD). The helmet fills that role.

It is very possible that F-35s will be sighted either by IR or during daylight hours. In those cases, they may engage at shorter ranges than usual. I expect they will do just fine, and fight more effectively than any Gen 4 fighter - due to the shorter OODA loop more than anything. Only the F-22 is a superior air dominance fighter - and it could really benefit from some of the F-35’s capabilities.


75 posted on 12/06/2017 11:56:15 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

>The concept of “dogfight” is changing drastically with the advent of high off-boresight missiles, and even rear-firing missiles (SU aircraft). F-35 pilots will be able to cue AIM-9X (Sidewinder) IR missiles using their helmets, similar to Apache pilots/gunners aiming their 30mm cannons by looking at the target. The F-35 is the first fighter since the ‘70s to not have a heads up display (HUD). The helmet fills that role.

I still wonder if jamming or flairs will play a role here. All those fancy missiles and guidance systems won’t count for anything if the missiles can’t lock on to their targets due to jamming or flairs.


76 posted on 12/07/2017 12:08:05 AM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: JohnyBoy

“I still wonder if jamming or flairs will play a role here. All those fancy missiles and guidance systems won’t count for anything if the missiles can’t lock on to their targets due to jamming or flairs.”

Sure they will. As a matter of fact, I understand that during the recent SU-22 shootdown in Syria the F-18 pilot initially fired an AIM-9X, which was decoyed by a flare (this was reported on an open site). An AMRAAM (radar guided missile) successfully destroyed the SU shortly after. The failure of the AIM-9X to disregard the flare(s) was disappointing, and concerning. A lot of effort has gone into decoy rejection over the years.

Lasers are rapidly coming into the mix to blind IR guided missiles as well. Jamming radar guided missiles isn’t trivial these days as the radars are frequency agile. BTW, that’s a major reason the stealthy F-35 can use its radar with relative impunity. The radar only takes a short time to paint its environment, and it’s hopping frequencies constantly. Then it goes off again for an extended time.

All that said, the F-35 and F-22 enjoy a great deal of immunity to radar-guided missiles, particularly at longer ranges and head-on. That is a game changer for sure.


77 posted on 12/07/2017 5:09:21 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Agreed. There is so much to learn tactically about how to use this platform...


78 posted on 12/07/2017 7:14:34 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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