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Oregon's top federal prosecutor reserving judgment on Sessions' pot memo
The Oregonian ^ | Jan 5, 2018 | Noelle Crombie

Posted on 01/06/2018 10:15:05 AM PST by NobleFree

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To: gundog

And it should be illegal to give away.

But as a DMOTMC you refuse to see any negative aspect of habitual dope use or legalization.


81 posted on 01/08/2018 8:10:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

I can’t see what isn’t there. Other than a lot of dispensaries popping up, my area hasn’t changed. Meth and opioids are another story.


82 posted on 01/08/2018 8:26:23 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: little jeremiah

It was in local grade schools in the 70’s. I guess it’s trickled down to neonatal units since legalization.


83 posted on 01/08/2018 8:36:38 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: little jeremiah

That’s half of the legal allotment under Oregon’s scheme. What’s your position on the State dispensaries and medical program? That’s where the large legal grows come into play.


84 posted on 01/08/2018 8:45:16 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: little jeremiah
Pro-dopers feign ignorance, lie, and refuse to ever admit there is one atom of downside to mj use or legalization.

I have seen this over and over again. And as I mentioned in a previous post... Since we have easy access here in Washington... people we know who live out of state who are users seem to want us to get it to them for their “medicinal” needs. I suspect that whatever health problems they actually do have are related to their excessive use of marijuana over many decades. Is taking more of what made you sick to begin with really a good cure???

My wife is a retired nurse. She seemed to be able to spot serious dope smokers with nearly 100% accuracy from their set of symptoms and behavior patterns. I personally observed many of these same patterns in my work on emergency medical calls.

Here is a partial list for the pot smokers amongst us: Thinning hair and baldness in females. Extreme problems with varicose veins in their legs and abdomens in both men and woman and varicose veins in the scrotums of men starting at an early age. A complete loss of actual breast tissue replaced by fat starting at an early age even in with women who were fairly thin. An obsession with all-natural health foods and supplements. A high prevalence of lupus and other autoimmune diseases. And of course issues with breathing problems and lung disease. Not to mention a whole lot of mental health issues. And then there are the life long acquaintances with a whole lot of promise who never amounted to anything

The potheads among us will probably not admit to having these issues or believe that they have no relationship to their beloved habit. I had a girlfriend in my 20s who said she could give up anything for me but the pot. That is the primary reason we split up.

85 posted on 01/08/2018 8:53:14 PM PST by fireman15
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To: little jeremiah

PATA&IL are a lot like progressives because they want to limit freedom any way they can. Nanny-state busybodies.

People should be able to grow as much cannabis as they need for their personal use. They should be allowed to give, share or barter if they wish because that’s what a free people does. If people want to make $$$ they need to get a legal license to grow & or sell just like you would for anything else in accordance with state & local laws.

Freedom is always good enough, little one. I realize that’s a hard thing for the busybodies of the PATA&IL to accept but in the end it won’t matter since they have lost the argument to the will of the American voter.


86 posted on 01/09/2018 3:23:43 AM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: little jeremiah

Are these crimes documented anywhere? I sought you out to get negative input about legalization, but all I get is ranting. For every one of you, I hear about people that take advantage of their new-found property value and sells, which further infuriates your camp, but so what? That’s markets at work. Maybe you just don’t do well with change.


87 posted on 01/09/2018 9:36:11 AM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: fireman15; little jeremiah

No one can defend the abuse of any drug or alcohol.

That’s not the point of this article. Jeff Sessions and many others want to federally criminalize it again. That is the issue at hand.

We criminalize lots of behaviors that are either an irritant or a danger to the life and safety of others. But to what degree?

Let’s read what the Bible says: an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. What the Bible tells us is that punishment should not exceed the harm that is done. For instance, capital punishment is reserved for those that kill or are traitors that directly endanger the lives of Americans.

Look at the harm of drinking and driving. I have long advocated for mandatory jail time on second offense, felony jail time for third offense.

But where is the harm to others from marijuana? Where is the body count? Yes you can hurt yourself, but there are far more effects to alcoholics, and that is not a crime at all, until you drive drunk or attack others.

That’s the point, the juice ain’t worth the squeeze.


88 posted on 01/09/2018 9:42:36 AM PST by gandalftb
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To: little jeremiah
We don't hear about these things on the coast.
89 posted on 01/09/2018 3:48:52 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: gandalftb

The harm done by marijuana has been completely glossed over by the media and Hollywood for the past 50 or more years. Marijuana’s harm to people and our society is not as well understood but it is every bit as dangerous as alcohol. I say this not just in theory but as someone who has been in constant contact with marijuana users for basically my entire life.

And it was never federally decriminalized. The Obama administration just chose not to enforce the law. It is just one more example of marijuana advocated choosing to do things in a half assed way instead of the right way. I fully support Jeff Sessions efforts to do his job to fully enforce federal law.


90 posted on 01/12/2018 9:14:15 AM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Again, the point of the article, hence the basis for the entire discussion, was the return to federal prosecution of federal marijuana laws.

If the DOJ places marijuana prosecution on its lowest priority, that is a working, if not a de facto decriminalization.

If you want to post about the evils of any drug abuse, do so, on a post that has that as a point. This post does not.

We should be talking, on this post, about the effects of prosecution.

Answer this - would you then support the federal prosecution of all the doctors and NP’s that have prescribed marijuana??? That’s a violation of federal law....

And.... a big issue out here in marijuana, incorporated land.....would you prosecute the banks handling all the marijuana business money??

Come on, how far would you go??? Jeff Sessions is waiting for your answer.


91 posted on 01/12/2018 11:27:06 AM PST by gandalftb
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