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Posted on 01/18/2018 7:20:13 AM PST by Kaslin
For a first encounter/meetup it was tantamount to date rape. Ply her with some liquor and then repeatedly grab her hand and bring it down to your penis.
Bfl
You are correct, it was
Bridgette Bardot has something to say about it.
Godless in Gotham.
When Grace met him at a public fubction (him the star, she a professional photographer) she was on a date with someone else.
Pros need access to content and stars can provide this (a network of clients/friends). From her account she didn’t sound like a starf$cker and he was grabbing her t!ts at his place right after the rushed meal.
Sometimes the ideas that the Left comes up with to win a special Senate election, are much easier to start, than they are to switch off, like, before the elections this fall...
Men should start a #neverdateagain movement.
Men need only to raise their own standards and not fall folly to the “the player” game.
This is insightful.
Brigitte Bardot is 100 percent correct.
Yup!
Me too = “only ME”
A very good response to this story is by Matt Walsh and is titled, You Feel Violated After Casual Sex Because You Degraded Yourself. Not Because It Was Rape.
Its at a site that for some reason isnt welcome here on FR.
Heres some of it:
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The #MeToo crusaders do seem to have picked up on one important truth. They have gone in entirely the wrong direction with it, and learned all the wrong lessons from it, but they are right, at least, about this: there is something wrong with the way we approach sex in modern society, and its leaving a lot of people feeling hurt and abused.
But, beholden always to their narrative, they read a story like Graces and automatically interpret it as a struggle between an innocent woman and a depraved rapist of a man. When they hear that Grace felt violated after the fact, they declare that it must have been her consent that was violated. After all, the only thing either participant is required to respect is consent. Its the only rule. The One Commandment. The only thing that can be violated. There are, in the modern mind, only two types of sex: consensual and rape. Whatever falls under the first umbrella must be good. So if a woman feels not-good the next morning, it must have been the not-good type, which means it must have been rape.
But the effort to fit begrudging yet consensual sex into the rape category requires the formation of a bunch of new and confusing and constantly changing rules. The overly simplified good or rape formula suddenly turns into an overly complicated calculus, and the only way for a man to really know whether he has committed rape or not is to ask his partner the next day. And even then, she may not make the determination until the following week, or next month after she sees you on TV winning a Golden Globe. And suddenly we have fixed the problem of sex in modern society by turning it into a criminal act. Ironically, conservatives are always accused of wanting to criminalize promiscuity but liberals have actually done it.
Their narratives and formulas have blinded them. They dont understand that a person can be consensually violated during sex. A woman can unmistakably communicate consent say, by getting naked in a strange mans living room and grabbing his genitals but still wind up feeling degraded and abused by the end of it because her dignity was violated. They dont understand this concept because they dont understand that human beings have inherent dignity to begin with. Its like trying to diagnose a heart condition while denying the existence of the heart.
Here is the reality: Sex that consensually violates the dignity of a person is immoral and harmful, but legal and reciprocal. Casual sex sex between strangers who just met on Tinder or at a party is a mutual violation of human dignity. Both partners reduce the other to mere flesh and bone; a set of body parts with no soul or purpose other than to be used as a glorified masturbatory device. This is the essence of casual sex. Its what makes it casual. And its why you have that icky feeling the next morning.
I guess both women and men have to realize the pretence of romance of the former centuries is dead right now. To Have a romance, you have to get someone to actually like and become attached to you. And you have to like or become attached to them, for a romantic relationship. Sex becomes almost non applicable. Both men and women can fall in love or become attached and want to be with someone, either with or without the act of sex having happened. Sex is not going to make either partner become attached. Not having sex is also not going to make either partner become attached.
So treat sex as a bio function and as a way to exchange bacterial populations with someone (be careful). And develop relationships with all the people in your life and pay attention to their personalities, moralities, lifestyle, and ability to be a good friend. It seems we have separated orgasm from love. Is this a good thing? I dont even know. It just is.
1. Generalize much, Jessica?
2. It is patently obvious that this article is horribly sexist, since it promotes the narrative that there are non-negligible differences between men and women. / s
In the feminist worldview, couldn't one just as easily reverse the roles of the two parties involved here?
Seriously: I can't believe how some commentators on tv or online are calling the anonymous accuser "courageous" for her behavior. Since when is writing poison-pen letters / making anonymous, unproven (and actually unprovable) accusations courageous?
Regards,
“It wasn’t that the sex was bad — though it was — it was that the date was only about sex, and she had hoped for more”.
“Grace” should have upfront told the guy what she was looking for: commitment, love, etc. Guys cannot read your mind.
Second, did the actor force her to drink? I mean, literally, grab her neck and pour the liquor down her throat? Where is her responsibility to HERSELF? Is she a ragdoll?
If the “date” went down the way she described it, she is just as at fault as he is. He for being a cad. She for wanting the “excitement” that comes with dating a famous person but claiming ZERO responsibility for her own actions or lack there of.
I call BS on this one.
Most of the ‘metoo’ are BS. I’m a man, just for the record, and I could make a pretty good list of assaults by drunken college girls, as well as a couple of blatant sexual assaults by married women when I was young and single.
Of course, since I’m male, it doesn’t count, and since I’m white and Christian. Strike 3. OUT
Yes, I too miss the days when you would just get slapped for asking a girl if she knew the difference between a big Mac and a bj.
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