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Pope shocks Chile by accusing sex abuse victims of slander
https://www.apnews.com ^ | 18 Jan 2017 | AP

Posted on 01/18/2018 5:58:35 PM PST by BackRoads775

SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) — Pope Francis accused victims of Chile’s most notorious pedophile of slander Thursday, an astonishing end to a visit meant to help heal the wounds of a sex abuse scandal that has cost the Catholic Church its credibility in the country.

Francis said that until he sees proof that Bishop Juan Barros was complicit in covering up the sex crimes of the Rev. Fernando Karadimas, such accusations against Barros are “all calumny.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ancient; bishopaccountability; bishopjuanbarros; catholicchurch; chile; fernandokaradimas; homosexualagenda; pedophile; pedophilechurch; pope; popefrancis; propaganda; religion; roman; rome; sexabuse
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To: BackRoads775

Maybe the next time they throw a newspaper at him, they’ll use the Sunday New York Slimes.


21 posted on 01/18/2018 6:18:10 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: BackRoads775

So, if you are abused by a church official as a child, you should just later shut up so as not to be accused of slander?


22 posted on 01/18/2018 6:23:12 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: BackRoads775

So what does Barro have on Francis?


23 posted on 01/18/2018 6:25:03 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: House Atreides

Jorge Bergoglio is not the Pope. That position still remains with Benedict XVI.

Hence why Bergoglio continues to spout utter heresies without relent.


24 posted on 01/18/2018 6:28:04 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: BackRoads775

Satan has entered the Pope’s Vatican and made himself at home.....


25 posted on 01/18/2018 6:28:28 PM PST by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: BackRoads775

26 posted on 01/18/2018 6:29:02 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: BackRoads775

“In the typical Chilean family, parents (now) think twice before sending their kids to Catholic school because you never know what is going to happen,” Navia said.


All driven by anti-Catholic media. As a group priests are less likely to be child molesters.

But the media use every opportunity to go after the Catholic Church, which, of course, has its share of sinners.

Most of those claiming victimhood were boys in the teens.


27 posted on 01/18/2018 6:32:09 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BackRoads775

Related. Other instances where Francis’ actions favored an accused abuser.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/six-cases-where-the-sexual-abuse-scandal-touches-pope-francis


28 posted on 01/18/2018 6:37:00 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: marktwain
Most of those claiming victimhood were boys in the teens.

I cannot wait for this excuse to be given on 'Judgment Day? These perverts groomed the boys, so that magical day of puberty past, this excuse would be made. Whom ever came up with the notion they could 'write' out excuses for gravity of the sins, based upon the age of the victim is only fooling themselves. You all are messing with the One who keeps the perfect record.

29 posted on 01/18/2018 6:38:51 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

These perverts groomed the boys, so that magical day of puberty past, this excuse would be made.

It was sinful. But not as bad as pedophilia. They were not small children. I think Paul puts them on the same level as adulterers and thieves.


30 posted on 01/18/2018 6:41:09 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Lurker

Very sad. Have you heard about what some English people have been calling Irish Catholics? Priest f*ers. Disgusting.


31 posted on 01/18/2018 6:46:42 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: marktwain
It was sinful. But not as bad as pedophilia. They were not small children. I think Paul puts them on the same level as adulterers and thieves.

God destroyed Sodom, and called the acts an abomination ... He put no age on the act... A priest that grooms a boy for him self until puberty is as bad as it gets... And those that make excuses for this are not going to like the end. It is twisted beyond words to then make the post puberty teen as culpable as the pervert that grooms the boy.

32 posted on 01/18/2018 6:48:38 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: House Atreides

What a piece of work this guy is!


33 posted on 01/18/2018 6:54:01 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: semaj
I'm with you on the past and current infiltrators in the Church.

Aside from that, Due Process is a good thing, ñ'est-ça pas?

Accusation-based trial and conviction in the press has gone far too far (a la #MeToo and previous accusations elsewhere in the Church), especially with respect to ex post facto elimination of statutes of limitation.

These changes promote & enable accusations of decades-old actions, to the point that the perp in question is senile or has died, and therefore unable to present a defense.

Unfortunately for the accusers, a below-average 1st-year law student could make a strong case that all the ratings-driven pretrial publicity severely compromises the defendant's ability to obtain a impartial jury in any venue. There are good reasons for Statutes of Limitations. They support the 6th Amendment right to a speedy trial, and the ability to face one's accuser.

To paraphrase others, "better that one guilty man go free than 10 innocent men go to jail" (Blackstone, Maimonides (at second quote on page referenced)).

I suspect that FReepers as a group would prefer an actual trial-by-jury (rather than trial-by-media), should anything like this happen to them.

That pesky Rule of Law thing, again.

34 posted on 01/18/2018 6:54:26 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: BackRoads775

Pope Pizza dropped the mask for an instant.


35 posted on 01/18/2018 6:56:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: WayneS

He’s the Obama of the RCC


36 posted on 01/18/2018 7:01:00 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: lastchance

28 - Even a blind pig can find an acorn, on occasion.

However, “One swallow does not a Summer make”.

I myself have severe problems with and concerns about the current resident of St. Peter’s Chair. But then I spent 8 years in the Jesuit education system, so the to-date performance of a South-American, Marxist-Liberation-Theology Jesuit comes as no surprise.

Not unlike the performance of a certain clean-and articulate community organizer we predicted during the latter’s election campaign.


37 posted on 01/18/2018 7:04:51 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I had a good, straight-talking conversation with my pastor just this morning. I said I'm fairly convinced that Jorge Bergoglio may not be pope (for several reasons, which I expounded upon), and we are in an interregnum.

Interregnums have happened before in history. Several lasted 2 years or more. And then there was the Western Schism (1378 - 1417) a period of 40 years in which there were two, sometimes three different simultaneous claimants to the papacy.

Fr. Pete, though in the past rather a Francis fan, evidently didn't think that was outside the range of possibility.

38 posted on 01/18/2018 7:22:35 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Unless I am mistaken, I'm infallible.)
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To: BackRoads775

The ImPopester hits a new low.


39 posted on 01/18/2018 7:48:31 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: BackRoads775

The feminists will be outraged. Or maybe not.


40 posted on 01/18/2018 7:50:54 PM PST by Dante3
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