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Florida school shooting: How was killer able to get around school security?
Sun Sentinel ^ | 2/16/18 | Scott Travis

Posted on 02/16/2018 5:18:10 AM PST by Moonman62

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To: Maskot

I know, right? It’s like, “Hey, all you crazies that want to shoot up a school! Here’s EXACTLY how to do it right!”


Well, not any more.


21 posted on 02/16/2018 6:18:12 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: dead

Liberal politicians with their bodyguards attack us for owning guns.

And they use dead kids as a prop to call for a solution that’s a complete diversion from the fact bad guys exist.

That no law on earth will ever stop.


22 posted on 02/16/2018 6:18:35 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: livius
He was reported by a chat room user to the FBI, which interviewed the man and supposedly followed up. Cruz was using his own name in the chat room, but the FBI said they couldn’t establish his identity. This was only last fall.
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If you are referring to the You Tuber, BenTheBondsman, he is a Mississippi bondsman who runs a channel on You Tube. He saw Cuz’s comment in the comment section on his channel last fall. Cuz posted with his REAL NAME. I have no indication the Bureau tried to track him down using the social media sites to see what he was up to. His Facebook site was not taken down until the day of the shooting. There were suspicious, red flags on that site.
23 posted on 02/16/2018 6:20:10 AM PST by iontheball (lLL)
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To: robroys woman

While true, tell that little factoid to the families of the dead.

Drugs, because politicians probably get rich off of them, and suicide will always be around.

Mental health is a real issue, but at least half of the population is insane and promote their insanity daily.


24 posted on 02/16/2018 6:24:53 AM PST by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Why is a 19 year old adult at school with kids?

You're kidding, right?

There are plenty of 19 year old people in schools across the nation this very minute.

You've never heard of someone failing classes and being held back a year? That can put them into their 19th year.

25 posted on 02/16/2018 6:30:08 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: dforest

While true, tell that little factoid to the families of the dead.


That is always the case. Even if the “dead” was the only guy in the entire nation that was killed by a bad man with a gun.

It is necessary to look past the emotional aspect and look to what will actually keep this from happening again, but ensuring we balance individual freedom with the statistical risk. Everything involves risk. It is only when it becomes prohibitively dangerous that we curtail individual freedom. This is why Meth is illegal.


26 posted on 02/16/2018 6:30:33 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: dforest

While true, tell that little factoid to the families of the dead.


Whenever you hear a politician say, “If this saves one child’s life, it’s worth it”, he’s lying. There is always an acceptable death rate regarding any human endeavor. Abolishing all cars would save a LOT of childrens’, and even us less valuable adults, lives. Oddly, we don’t do it.

I guess there are things more important than just ensuring as few people as possible die. ;)


27 posted on 02/16/2018 6:33:05 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman

When you consider how many students are in public school every day, and how many are shot in this sort of circumstance, this is really not as pressing an issue as some would have you believe. I’d worry more about drug overdose and suicide.

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I’d say many more students are killed going to and from school. The day this happened I was reading about the story of a girl who died after being hit by a car while running to her bus stop. When I was in school a friend of mine was killed the same way.


28 posted on 02/16/2018 6:39:10 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: ealgeone
Some 19 yrs olds can pass for 16 or 17 years of age. I was able to do this at age 25. One day I had off from work, I decided to go to my old high school. I just walked in amongst the students. No body seemed to notice me, blended right in. I even sat in a class until class time, telling kids I was a new student, then when the teacher walked in, I acted like I was in the wrong room and left. Of course this was some years ago when security was far more lax.
29 posted on 02/16/2018 6:40:27 AM PST by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: Moonman62

Yeah. We’re on the same page here.

I will respect the viewpoint that this is different, because someone did it on purpose, but only to a degree.


30 posted on 02/16/2018 6:45:04 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Moonman62

Another thing, they aren’t talking about the “fire alarm” problem. This guy pulled the alarm, and all the kids do exactly what they are supposed to do, head for the hallway and exit in orderly fashion ... only they were exiting right into this murderer’s sites. So how do you solve that, have them in classrooms where only the teacher can call the shot? Kind of a conundrum.


31 posted on 02/16/2018 6:45:41 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for!)
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To: dead
If there had been a congressman visiting the school that day, or even a minor celebrity, there would have been significant security. But there were just kids there.

Excellent point!

Gun Free Zones are shooting ranges!

32 posted on 02/16/2018 6:48:59 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Moonman62

He shot security. Duh.

From a news report about the shooting ... “Aaron Feis, an assistant football coach and security guard, was shot after throwing himself in front of students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., according to news reports.”


33 posted on 02/16/2018 6:55:56 AM PST by al_c (LIBERAL - Laughable Iconsiderate Blaming Entitled Ranting Anti-christian Loudmouth)
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To: a fool in paradise

Some of those “kids” are 18


34 posted on 02/16/2018 6:59:55 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Moonman62

Heard a report the day of. All doors and gates open at end of day


35 posted on 02/16/2018 7:06:01 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Moonman62

Gee, maybe he walked around the end of the fence, huh? I've yet to find a wall around the school that the lying msm is spouting. Oops, ya mean a wall is a protective device????

36 posted on 02/16/2018 7:06:47 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Moonman62

There essentially was no school security.


37 posted on 02/16/2018 7:06:57 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: philman_36

Night school

They don’t belong with minors


38 posted on 02/16/2018 8:13:24 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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To: cableguymn
"the FBI is either stupid, or lying."

!!! Now, that would be a first!

Not...

39 posted on 02/16/2018 8:44:41 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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