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1 posted on 02/20/2018 4:02:08 AM PST by Zakeet
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Good point. There’s a lot of issues that haven’t been resolved.


2 posted on 02/20/2018 4:05:54 AM PST by HighSierra5
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Reopen the mental hospitals


3 posted on 02/20/2018 4:07:10 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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OK, but I have another approach.

Hold the Superintendent of Schools, the County Sheriff, the local Social Services Administrator, and the SAIC FBI responsible for dereliction of duty and Negligence.

Cruz was a known threat by all as has been well-documented. If they could nit stop this man, then they can stop no one.

4 posted on 02/20/2018 4:07:38 AM PST by Makana (The thing you seek the most will be found where you least want to look.)
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LOTS of freepers have told me they don’t want me in a battle with them cause i have little experience with guns.

Official training courses. Maybe 18 times to a range.

Do these same freepers think teachers with a few trips to the range and a gun course are gonna make a difference in an active firefight?

Just wondering.

BTW, witnessed obama’s sons i a shoot out in brownsville in brooklyn a few months ago.

Happened RIGHT behind my car. I didn’t even drive off, they were shooting so badly :)

Basically barely off the ground and shooting behind themselves without looking.

Oh, my rear tires may have died in the shootout and I would have had a wake and funeral, but NOTHING higher than two feet was gonna get hit :)

Was like a free, bad, action movie.


5 posted on 02/20/2018 4:11:16 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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How can the police make money if they’re protecting schools instead of handing out speeding tickets?


6 posted on 02/20/2018 4:13:41 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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My wife teaches at a public middle school. In every class there are two or three absolute sh*thead kids who ruin everything for everyone, whom she can barely control.

Forcing good kids to be at the mercy of these bums and malcontents and deliquents is the problem. They need to be put in special schools with drill sergeants and work details.

End of rant.
9 posted on 02/20/2018 4:16:30 AM PST by hemogoblin
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The shooting was a false flag


16 posted on 02/20/2018 4:21:40 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Not to mention eliminate Gun Free School Zones law.


20 posted on 02/20/2018 4:24:16 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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#6.5 Aim for the crotch on the first round
#7 Publicize Consequences

(perhaps THAT will get the attention of these attention craving teenage boys...)


23 posted on 02/20/2018 4:27:55 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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Enforce Everything

Couldn't agree more strongly. People will get away with whatever you let them.

33 posted on 02/20/2018 5:08:51 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (Capitalists sign their checks on the front. Socialists sign theirs on the back.)
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Nothing about the ACLU\(D), but I repeat myself, flooding us w/ crazies after opening the asylum gates.

IMO, the easiest fix:
- Terminate any/all property taxes
- Terminate any/all unions/DoEd
- Parent(s)\Guardian(s) pay for the education of their brood (say, every quarter..1/2 year).
- Schools/institutions give 1 warning; then expulsion w/ NO REFUNDS

Wanna see parents worry about quality of schools/teachers/education? Make ‘em write a check.

Wanna see parents involved w/ their kids education/behavior, let ‘em ‘lose’ a few $K for expulsion. I bet it won’t happen a 2nd time.


41 posted on 02/20/2018 5:34:56 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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And take down these signs:


43 posted on 02/20/2018 5:39:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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Laz's take on how this incident happened:

Spread it far and wide...

44 posted on 02/20/2018 5:39:38 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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There was a caller on one of the shows whose school district called in the local cops the day after Sandy Hook to come in and make recommendations.

Unfortunately I was driving and couldn’t take notes, but a number of the suggestions were dead simple.

One was to invite the cops to do their report writing at the school, giving them a frequent and random presence there, rather than at the local Starbucks. They implemented that one the very next day.

Another was to have the SROs (School Resource Officers) keep their ARs in a readily accessible safe on the campus, rather than require them to leave them out in their cars.

Others required a bit more work, restricting entry to a single point, ability to lock down zones to isolate an assailant, and to provide video feed from their existing cameras to responding officers in their patrol cars.


47 posted on 02/20/2018 5:41:14 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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The article overlooked the obvious answer ...

You already have school choice. You can send your kids to public schools, send your kids to private schools, or homeschool them. What choice is missing in all that?

48 posted on 02/20/2018 5:42:31 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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The first step is to use truthful language. There are no gun free zones there are only criminal gun zones. Always correct that phrase and use the second one.

Always say to gun grabbers, “you want kids dead”. It is truthful in two ways.
Gun control will never happen nor be effective, it is a unicorn. In order to feed their unicorn, dems, libs and teachers need dead kids. In failing to protect kids they must want kids dead.

Then ask them how can they be so evil, have they always been this evil, and if their parents were also evil like them.

52 posted on 02/20/2018 5:56:28 AM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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Our kids only went to elementary school for a couple of years but even then, we drove them to the next town over to an A rated school instead of letting them go to the Failing school that the bus would have taken them to.

The middle school they would have gone to had lock downs on a regular basis. Cops would pull up to the end of the road that led to the school, block the road and jump out holding a shotgun. Who knows what was going on in the school.

The school we drove them to, while being A rated, started to fill up with liberal/leftist teachers. When we met their two teachers one year, they both talked down to us like we were children so that public school year lasted three days. We knew we were moving in a few months anyway so we pulled them out.

Only regret is that we don’t socialize enough ourselves so the kids don’t get much socialization either but when they do, we get nothing but compliments on their behavior so I guess we didn’t do half bad.

We tried the both parents working thing but hated it anyway. Most of one paycheck was going to pay for daycare and extra fuel for running them to and from. They were learning bad habits from other kids. Mostly light brown kids with a blonde white momma and no husband.

We also got out of multicultural Florida.


57 posted on 02/20/2018 6:11:40 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2020)
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In order for any of the above to work, one first has to address the issue of what to do with a person willing to kill large numbers of other people, and address why they are willing to kill this way. Until you do that, regulating the tools used is a pointless exercise.
Suppose instead of using an AR-15, Cruz had simply dumped a bunch of activated insect foggers (bug bombs) down the schools central AC/Heat air intake? These insecticides are generally either neurotoxins or respiratory agents. Chlorine bleach mixed with ammonia would have the same effect (chloramine gas). By the time anybody realized something was wrong, it would be too late. The sound of the gunfire from the AR-15 alerted students that something was wrong and gave them time to take cover or try to escape.
As I said, trying to change the tool used will not solve the problem - only by making sure that those whose mindset/morals would allow them to kill large numbers of people will.


58 posted on 02/20/2018 6:12:54 AM PST by jhastey
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One thing is for sure - with the non-stop attention on this shooter, 24/7, for a week now, there’s someone out there planning to get noticed the same way. A shooting has to be reported, but dwelling on it this way will only bring another one on.


60 posted on 02/20/2018 6:20:58 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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My list fwiw:

Reopen the 800,000 psych beds closed in late 1970’s.
Put the dangerously agitated under observation, treatment. Isolate.
Remove the mentally unhealthy from the healthy school population.
Allow school staff to carry in schools.
Add metal detectors and guards at schools.
If found guilty, hang these perps publicly with only a diaper on, and put their parents in prison a while, too.
If law enforcement failed to act on warnings, criminally prosecute the bosses.
No gun law changes are necessary.


63 posted on 02/20/2018 6:58:14 AM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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