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Judge enters not guilty plea for Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz (Death penalty case)
CN N ^ | March 14, 2018 | Jason Hanna & Eliott C. McLaughlin

Posted on 03/14/2018 11:34:51 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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To: COBOL2Java

Hold on just a minute.
I read the first paragraph.
Plus i read a few of the comments in order to get the flow of the article.
^_^


21 posted on 03/14/2018 11:56:47 AM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Moonman62
The judge usually enters a not guilty plea when the defendant stands silent.

Should that not be up to the defendant's lawyers?

22 posted on 03/14/2018 11:57:02 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Blogger

He withdrew his not guilty plea. He confessed to the police and that will be presented in court along with forensic evidence. Eyewitness testimony is unreliable. He doesn’t stand a chance.


23 posted on 03/14/2018 11:58:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

That means he’ll be executed at between 33-38 years old.


24 posted on 03/14/2018 11:59:23 AM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: rjsimmon

His lawyers told him to withdraw his not guilty plea and stand silent because that won’t enrage the public as much. He still gets a not guilty plea out of it.


25 posted on 03/14/2018 12:00:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62

He may be A shooter. But they may not have all shooters.


26 posted on 03/14/2018 12:00:47 PM PDT by Blogger (The causes are the left are never about caring about an issue. ItÂ’s always about power.)
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To: Moonman62
His lawyers told him to withdraw his not guilty plea and stand silent because that won’t enrage the public as much.

I think he lit that candle a month ago.

He still gets a not guilty plea out of it.

Yep, and a waste of tax payer time/money.

27 posted on 03/14/2018 12:06:06 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: MCF

I guess he doesn’t like girls?


28 posted on 03/14/2018 12:07:18 PM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: plain talk

You saw that also. The judge wants to make sure the death penalty is applicable. Good on the judge.


29 posted on 03/14/2018 12:09:58 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Leep

He has no choice now. But all joking aside, they need to show no mercy to these murders. No second chance, nothing but death row.


30 posted on 03/14/2018 12:11:58 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: Blogger

Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. For example. A friend of mine at work was getting harassed by an ex of the girl he was dating. I met a person, outside of our office building in the morning, after working a graveyard shift. According to what I remember, “goatee, camouflage jacket and hat, and black boots, black hair.” This guy sounded EXACTLY like the guy harassing my friend. Exept the company had video tape of me talking to the guy. He had camo on the arms only, the rest was blue. A black hat. Full beard. White tennis shoes, brown hair. NOT the same guy. Stress and exhaustion can do a lot to a memory.


31 posted on 03/14/2018 12:12:35 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: plain talk

The way I understand it: The public defender was trying to negotiate for life in prison, no parole in exchange for the State prosecution NOT seeking the DP in exchange for a Guilty plea. They argue the state saves the money and time by cutting a deal. They argue it ‘spares’ the victims and families further grief. It’s not fair to make that assumption.

1. Cruz’s actions are exactly why the death penalty was enacted in Florida.

2. Avoiding a trial would result in cloaking the depth of the ineptitude within the Broward county school district, Sheriff’s office and the FBI.


32 posted on 03/14/2018 12:15:11 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: vpintheak

But when there are commonalities among reliable witnesses, they must be considered. Both teachers were extremely precise in their descriptions. How many ACTUALLY SAW Cruz specifically? Was there shooting going on elsewhere? Lots of questions for the defense.


33 posted on 03/14/2018 12:23:01 PM PDT by Blogger (The causes are the left are never about caring about an issue. ItÂ’s always about power.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

34 posted on 03/14/2018 12:24:43 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Blogger

He may be A shooter. But they may not have all shooters.

...

I wonder if all the other shooters took Uber.


35 posted on 03/14/2018 12:32:47 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: rjsimmon
Why the F*K would the judge do that? The POS already confessed.

It's required by law if the defendant fails or refuses to plead.

36 posted on 03/14/2018 12:36:57 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: rjsimmon
"Why the F*K would the judge do that?"

First off I'm not a "Lawyer" or do I have a "Law Degree." Nor do I try and sell the B.S. That I'm a "Licensed" Lawyer. (Ask a Lawyer to see a piece of paper that say's "License.") They will show you there "Bar-Card," a.k.a., State(s) "Mandated Union-Card," simply showing that he/she is a "member in good standing." Translation they are current on Union Mandated Dues.

What the Judge has done is to protect "THE RECORD." In this instance, it's to show that the self confessed killer was protected by proper "DUE PROCESS."

If your wondering, well he did "self-confess," yes you would be right, it's very important to show via the "Court Record," that the "self-confess[ed]" killer was properly represented (& Constitutionally Protected) via a "LAWYER," either a "Public Pretender," (I could write a novel just on that subject) or a privately secured Attorney.

This is to prevent another court (State Appeals or Federal Appeals & Ultimately U.S. Supreme Court) from being able to release said self-confessed killer, because of a "LACK OF DUE PROCESS."

My own courtroom experience, three times to the Washington State Supreme Court (Civil Matter.) Case Law was made in all three cases. Unfortunately I was the loser in all three cases. Ref: The making of "NEW COUNTIES" in a State, that would be the State of Washington.

Prior court decisions are sometimes called a Latin phrase "stare decisis." The courts need a new phrase in my OPINION: Stare at the Shit on the wall, when a court (in my case) make a "HOLDING / stare decisis," based on a subject matter that was neither argued or briefed. Put so a lay person can understand what I just said is basically, the "court" decided to stick their "finger in the air," and say Hey here's our opinion, although nobody asked us, and that's--that!!!

37 posted on 03/14/2018 12:54:02 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s).)
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To: MCF

I was only half joking.
Maybe the difference is,at that age, I was interested
in getting to know a girl.
Not shooting them to death?

I hope it crosses his mind that he will never really know a girl.
Or, maybe that he could be someone’s girl in prison.


38 posted on 03/14/2018 1:14:33 PM PDT by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Moonman62

Eyewitness testimony is unreliable.


Who was the “reliable” eyewitness that id’d him then, because he wasn’t caught in the middle of shooting? How does a teacher eyewitness mistake jeans and a t shirt for full protective gear? I would also think that most false eyewitness reports are from people who don’t know the person they are identifying, yet his schoolmate says she walked out with him, while talking to him.


39 posted on 03/14/2018 1:15:50 PM PDT by magglepuss
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To: rjsimmon
The judge, when the defendant chooses to stand mute to the charges, the judge will typically enter the plea of not guilty

In other words, this is the standard plea entered by judges in these cases.

40 posted on 03/14/2018 1:27:11 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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