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Vox: We'll Have to Confiscate Guns To Reach Those Low 'European Levels Of Violence'
townhall.com ^ | 3/15/2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 03/15/2018 10:30:50 AM PDT by rktman

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The article might have done well to note that Australia, when they “banned guns”, only banned a class of guns. And, while Australians “turned in” 1 million guns, that only 20% of the banned weapons were turned in, meaning that 4 million of those rifles are still owned, by people who now are technically criminals.

IN other words, if VOX was being even more honest, they’d tell their readers the FACT that even in Australia, without a 2nd amendment or the American gun culture or the NRA, a vast majority of the gun owners refused to turn in their weapons, and the government decided NOT to go after them.

So no, banning the possession of AR-15s is NOT going to do anything — even if we acheived exactly what Australia acheived, it would only remove a small percentage of the rifles from the public, and probably mostly ones that were languishing in people’s attics and closets.


21 posted on 03/15/2018 10:40:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Well to be fiar....the UK is looking to ban pointy knives/S


22 posted on 03/15/2018 10:42:59 AM PDT by 1tostres (Americans are dreamers too!!!)
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To: rktman

No guns in Europe is also the primary reason why there is no longer any free speech in Europe.


23 posted on 03/15/2018 10:43:01 AM PDT by KyCats
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To: 1tostres
Well to be fiar....the UK is looking to ban pointy knives/S

What about pointed sticks?

24 posted on 03/15/2018 10:43:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rktman

We always knew what their objective is.

Now it’s ‘official’.....................


25 posted on 03/15/2018 10:43:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I would oppose it on principle, but if we applied the left’s “reasoning,” then confiscating all guns owned by blacks would lower the murder rate by about 50%.


26 posted on 03/15/2018 10:45:24 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: rktman

And the war that follows any attempt at confiscation is going to be LOW violence?

Dream on lefty.


27 posted on 03/15/2018 10:45:31 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: rktman

That low level of violence in Europe is only caused by muzzie’s; the people have no way to defend themselves which is why the level is so low.


28 posted on 03/15/2018 10:46:33 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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Want to undo the second amendment? Its easy, all you have to do is revoke the Bill of Rights.... Ohhhh wait a sec. The Bill of Rights was required by ratified states to be included in the constitution and REQUIRED to be part in order for the United States of America to exist. So... first dissolve the United States... er... um... how would you do that? Well by force... OH crap... you would need guns to do that..... Ahhhhhhhhhh now you are understanding...


29 posted on 03/15/2018 10:55:37 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: dfwgator
"Well to be fiar....the UK is looking to ban pointy knives/S What about pointed sticks? "

The country is being run by folks with pointed heads!

30 posted on 03/15/2018 10:57:40 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: rktman

Attempts at confiscation will result in a shooting war.


31 posted on 03/15/2018 10:58:08 AM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
You’d be hard pressed to find a historically accurate and complete documentary on places like the History Channel.


32 posted on 03/15/2018 11:00:11 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: PapaBear3625
2016 FBI Crime reports:

Total homicide arrests: 9,374

Homicide arrests of white people: 4,192, with Hispanics counted as "white".

Homicide arrests, Hispanic: 1,374

Remainder: 2818 (30% of total)

If non-Hispanic whites account for just 30% of the homicides, and the US homicide rate is 5.3 murders per 100,000 people in 2016, then the real "European-American" homicide rate is 1.6 per 100,000 versus 1.3 for France.

The real white homicide rate may be even lower, because the clearance rate for homicide is just 59% (i.e., in 41% of cases the killer is not caught), and the clearance rate in "no snitch" inner-city areas is likely very much lower.

33 posted on 03/15/2018 11:00:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: rktman

Uncle Dolphie would be proud of them!


34 posted on 03/15/2018 11:02:00 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: rktman
It's not "European Levels Of Violence" that they expect, it's "European Levels Of GUN Violence". The European levels of non-gun violence are beyond the pale and nothing to be proud of.
35 posted on 03/15/2018 11:08:04 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: rktman

Oohhh! I haven’t had live fire practice in a while, but I think I have taking care of leftist a-holes trying to take my guns covered.


36 posted on 03/15/2018 11:09:49 AM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: Polyxene

There may come a day to put up or shut up for gun owners in the future. I hope not.

I Saw Southern statues and the Confederate flag taken down and I never thought I would see that. At least not without a fight. I hope the gun issue will be different. I actually really hope it never comes to that.


37 posted on 03/15/2018 11:10:06 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Probably learn more history from Rick on pawn stars. Or Mike Rowe.


38 posted on 03/15/2018 11:10:34 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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There's an awful lot of posturing on both sides, which tends to obscure the realities of confiscation. This is, literally, armed men breaking down your door (even if it happens to be unlocked at the time), holding everyone inside at gunpoint, handcuffing them for "officer safety", and tearing into every cupboard, drawer, closet, and other potential hiding place, and at last, stealing valuable private property that has been made illegal to retain by faceless bureaucrats and clean-handed activists a thousand miles away. Anyone sane would consider this an extraordinary level of violence. Nor is this imaginary, overblown, or outside the American experience - liquor prohibition contained exactly this and more. I need not recite the similar offenses concomitant with the War On Drugs - remember when we had a 4th and 5th Amendment? The 2nd will be no more difficult to ignore, as the Vox article details. Get five Supreme Court justices to declare that night is day and we all have to pretend it's so. That, in essence, is their position here.

The subtext of the article contains one remarkable admission: it isn't law because the voters don't want it. And so the challenge will be to impose the will of those bureaucrats and activists on an unwilling population anyway. They may insist that what they're after is a reduced level of violence but in fact, they intend to raise that level first and keep it there as long as necessary. That's likely to be a very long time.

39 posted on 03/15/2018 11:10:58 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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40 posted on 03/15/2018 11:13:15 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Alex Jones isnÂ’t quite the wing nut now, all things considered.)
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