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A Double Murder From 1987 Was Just Solved Thanks To The Genealogy Website Used For...
www.buzzfeed.com ^ | Posted on May 18, 2018, at 2:29 p.m. | Peter Aldhous

Posted on 05/18/2018 1:25:02 PM PDT by Red Badger

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A Double Murder From 1987 Was Just Solved Thanks To The Genealogy Website Used For The Golden State Killer

Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg Snohomish County Sheriff

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Forensic genealogy has cracked a second major case, less than a month after the arrest of Joseph James DeAngelo, alleged to be the Golden State Killer.

At 11 a.m. PDT in Washington state, the Snohomish County Sheriff announced the arrest of a 55-year-old man from the Seattle area for the 1987 double murder of a young Canadian couple, Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg. He is William Earl Talbott II, a local truck driver.

On Nov. 18, 1987, Cook, 20, and Van Cuylenborg, 18, drove from Saanich, British Columbia, to the Seattle area in a van owned by Cook’s father. It was supposed to be an overnight trip, and when they didn’t return, they were reported missing.

Then, on Nov. 24, Van Cuylenborg’s body was found in a ditch in rural Skagit County, Washington. She had been raped and shot. Cook’s body was found two days later more than 50 miles away, covered with a blue blanket. He had been strangled and beaten.

On Thursday, BuzzFeed News reported that a company called Parabon NanoLabs had loaded DNA data from about 100 crime scenes into a public genealogy database called GEDmatch — finding matches with people estimated to be a suspect’s third cousins or even closer in about 20 cases.

From that search, a DNA sample from Van Cuylenborg’s murder scene gave especially promising leads. “The significant matches were at about the second cousin level,” CeCe Moore, the genealogist working with Parabon, told reporters at a press conference to announce Talbott’s arrest.

This meant that Moore had to draw family trees back to the great-grandparents of the people whose DNA profiles matched with the crime scene sample. Then, looking at descendants of these people, she found that the family trees converged on a couple who had only one son.

That was Talbott. His DNA has since been shown to match the crime scene sample.

Family tree of suspect in genetic genealogy search. CeCe Moore/Parabon NanoLabs

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“Detective work has sure come a long way in 30 years,” said Laura Baanstra, Cook’s sister.

Investigators said that they still don’t know the motive, or how Talbott met the couple. They appealed for help from anyone who knew Talbott at the time, or may have seen him in November 1987 in the stolen van or with Van Cuylenborg’s camera. “The investigation still has more work to be done,” Snohomish County Sheriff Ty Trenary told reporters.

Family members of the victims said they were relieved that the alleged killer is finally in custody.

“It’s a sense of some justice that’s starting to happen here,” said John Van Cuylenborg, Tanya’s elder brother.


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: goldenstatekiller
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To: kiltie65
Exciting development, but a whole lot less people will be contributing a vial of spit to Ancestry, com, etc. There have been warnings up before about not handing over your DNA willy nilly as down the road it could be a “gotcha”.

Too late! They already have all the DNA they will ever need.

I would venture to say that, by now, there is hardly anyone left in the U.S.A. who doesn't have at least a single 3rd-cousin whose DNA has been registered.

As explained in the article, all it takes is an approximate match with the DNA of one or two 3rd-cousins for the police to be able to say, "The murderer is to be found amongst this extended family of, say, 100 persons."

Then, all they have to do is approach a few of them and explain, "Someone in your clan is guilty of murder. Wouldn't you like to help us out with a saliva sample?" That means that then they've got even more DNA to go on - perhaps that of a 2nd- or even first-cousin, now. Now they've narrowed the investigation to a single family. And so on...

Regards,

101 posted on 05/19/2018 3:15:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Hawthorn

I forgot the sarc tag


102 posted on 05/19/2018 3:24:39 AM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison...like yesterday.)
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To: MondoQueen
I have traced my family back two thousand years. It’s amazing how many people I’m related to, and I haven’t found any disreputable characters yet !

I've traced my ancestry back (and sideways, i.e., I've also tried to register collateral relatives, like the brothers and sisters of my g-g-g-g-grandparents, and their descendants) a mere six generations - and my "tree" nevertheless contains some 5,000 names. (I estimate that perhaps 20% have "fallen through the cracks" - but I'm no statistician: It could also be as much 80%.)

In that tree, I've found documentary evidence (newspaper reports dating back to the first decade of the 20th century, etc.) of all kinds of micreants. And those are only the ones I've found and documented. There are probably many more whose sins - though public knowledge at the time - I have been unable to "recover." And probably many, many more whose misdeeds were never discovered.

So I think it very bold of you to make such a claim!

Even only among your living third-cousins, I'm sure that you have one or two felons. If we extend our view to encompass your (living) 5th- and 6th-cousins, you are likely to have at least one murderer.

If you've really traced your family back two thousand years (which is patently ludicrous), then you should realize that the decendants of those original progenitors probably include something like 90% of all the people currently living in Europe and North America.

No "disreputable characters," really? It is to laugh!

Regards,

103 posted on 05/19/2018 3:30:01 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: RedMonqey
DNA is a good investigative tool but I can forsee a clever criminal obtaining another’s DNA and planting it at the scene to throw off or even frame an other individual.

Most hair salons will freely give away a day's clippings for your garden or craft projects...

104 posted on 05/19/2018 4:47:15 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Innocent people are already ground up in the wheels of justice. DNA has been a huge factor in overturning wrongful convictions.


105 posted on 05/19/2018 10:05:01 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Hawthorn

That was actually true. Not about the samples, but about the companies making the reports. They purposely added 0.1% African because they wanted to be part of this new “triggering” thing.


106 posted on 05/19/2018 10:58:23 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Hawthorn

Correction: There was one prominent company that just added 0.1% African to “trigger” the 1 drop rule people.


107 posted on 05/19/2018 11:00:13 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: newfreep

NBC would not allow her belly button to be shown.

She is 86 now and still beautiful.


108 posted on 05/19/2018 11:16:36 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“I know a town that every time you rent a house and put the water system in your name you are out slightly over $500 before you ever use a drop. “


Dreadful——the damn government is NOT “for the people” anymore-——unless they are on the dole.

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109 posted on 05/19/2018 11:38:04 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Hot Tabasco
I CAN'T, dna means nothing if you can't prove an individual was at the scene of the crime...........

It throws a monkey wrench in the process. a puzzle piece that doesn't fit the concept the cops are trying to figure out.

And makes them spent scarce resources on a deadend.
110 posted on 05/19/2018 12:16:05 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: Fido969
But Well, its not conservatives beating people up wearing Hillary hats, is it?

A few years back it was "conservatives" that was beating kids at lunch counters" and fire hoses on anti war marchers.

Times change.

Watch the monkey show if and when DNA proves homosexuality is genetic based. It will make Homos turn into pro life and some pro life into pro choice.

111 posted on 05/19/2018 12:21:50 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: exit82
Fun Fact.... In the 60's, Barbara Eden (as a red head) was in the movie "Ride The Wild Surf" with Shelley Fabares (the blonde), both hot actresses from when I was a kid.

Jan & Dean's title song was and remains my favorite J&D song.


112 posted on 05/19/2018 12:22:57 PM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: RedMonqey
A few years back it was "conservatives" that was beating kids at lunch counters" and fire hoses on anti war marchers.

Both of those things were done almost exclusively by democrats.

As to your second point BS.

113 posted on 05/19/2018 12:59:29 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
As to your second point BS.

I didn't say parties. Parties change. Don't pretend to tell me what I've witnessed with my own eyes in my own 'backyard"
114 posted on 05/19/2018 1:16:38 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: newfreep

Thanks.

Never saw Shelly Fabares as a blonde.

And I would not have recognized Barabra Eden as the redhead.


115 posted on 05/19/2018 1:31:30 PM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: RedMonqey
Even then Democrats were know as liberals. Don't try to weasel out of it.

You claim you saw people being beaten at lunch counters by Republicans. Yeah dude, go peddle that at DU. They are reality challenged there.

116 posted on 05/19/2018 1:31:44 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: Red Badger

They have been collecting DNA samples and creating a data bank from every baby born in hospitals for over 40 years. It was noted that all public schools were creating a National data bank in 80s (yes, even with Ronald Reagan!!!!) Most people are in the Luciferean DNA data bank, even if you “think” you aren’t and the IQ of your children was put into a data bank so they could target them, like they did with Billy Clinton and little Barry Obama-—who were easily corruptible and controlled for life since they had no virtue formation at all. They know EVERYTHING about you if you have IQ over 110 especially or you gain a powerful position.

We haven’t had a “Justice” system since 1913—the Lucifereans (NWO) satanists took it over for their NWO.... and they need us all in their data banks, just cogs in the wheel, and all our connections, relatives, friends identified so they can totally control us-—like they do a Paul Ryan and everyone in congress or a Justice Roberts.

They know how to destroy you or get total control of you if you run for politics (or you are like a Trump—unpredictable).

They have to control all “ideas” and all “information” that the masses get so we are “happy slaves” for their system of total control and slavery.

We only learn about their plans about 40 years after the fact....if at all, when it is too late to do anything about it.


117 posted on 05/19/2018 2:00:21 PM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I never said they were beaten by Republicans.

Another fiction you are deluded by.

I said Conservatives. Extremists to be sure but they sure won’t radical leftist beating them so they wouldn’t integrate the lunch counters in Nashville(My backyard)
The Democrats in the South at that time were conservative trying to, get this “conserve” their political system which was in part, the Jim Crowe system.

Just go ask John Lewis who was supporting his cause back in the day.


118 posted on 05/19/2018 2:04:04 PM PDT by RedMonqey (" Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didnÂ’t.")
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To: RedMonqey
A few years back it was "conservatives" that was beating kids at lunch counters" and fire hoses on anti war marchers.

Actually, those were Democrats.

119 posted on 05/20/2018 9:47:40 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: RedMonqey
I never said they were beaten by Republicans.

Well, were were just pointing out a common feature of those who beat others.

Whether conservative or liberal, it is Democrats who beat others.

Sorry to bust your little bubble, but it's a fact. Going all the way back to Andrew Jackson, Democrats are corrupt (Jackson's "spoils system", Tammany Hall, Boston's James Michael Curley, or Daley's Chicago machine) or violent, (the Civil war, KKK, LBJ and the Chicago Democrat convention, segregation, or Occupy) the most vile of human trails is expressed by Democrats.

Just pointing out a fact.

120 posted on 05/20/2018 9:55:56 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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