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At urging of Minneapolis police, Hennepin EMS workers subdued dozens with a powerful sedative
Star Tribune ^ | 06/15/2018 | Andy Mannix

Posted on 06/16/2018 12:15:49 PM PDT by DFG

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To: gas_dr

EMS personnel are not administering those kind of doses. More like 5ml per 100 pounds of body weight. There is big difference between a sedative and anesthesia. But on your math you are correct about knocking you down and out. But then you need to be constantly managed to keep breathing........


61 posted on 06/16/2018 2:14:56 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: MarMema
Street name is Special K. Its also used to tranq animals like Horses. My Pharmacy has to special order it and I know how no EMS services around here that carries it in their drug box.
62 posted on 06/16/2018 2:56:54 PM PDT by Yorlik803
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"How is this different from government school teachers insisting that boys be doped with ritalin?"

or girls get vaccines for std's?....

63 posted on 06/16/2018 2:59:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

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64 posted on 06/16/2018 4:13:46 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Nifster

You are jumping from one subject to the other. I made no statement whatsoever about the EMS drugging. I made absolutely no comparison or analogy to it.

I was only responding to your statement “Teachers cannot make such a demand” regarding kids and Ritalin.

They can, they do, they usually have the support of the [equally unqualified] administrators and the [often] cherry picked doctors they insist the child be sent to for “evaluation”. If parents are not compliant they also often threaten to sic the gestapo like family services goons on them.

Know of it it, seen it. Case closed.


65 posted on 06/16/2018 4:50:59 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: DFG

Hold the crap on. EMS drugged people because the Police said so? That is all kinds of felony charges and should cause loss of license for everyone involved. No to mention Civil Rights lawsuits.


66 posted on 06/16/2018 5:01:30 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: shelterguy

Which is exactly what i said they are supposed to do

My hostility if you note was directed at cops playing doctor and end who listened to them

Look my daughter is an ICU nurse. I know what is proper protocol.

By the way I pray you son gets better soon. May God give you strength and peace


67 posted on 06/16/2018 5:48:25 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Chickensoup

I know what is given in a hospital either under docs orders or under standard protocols. Not by end at the behest of a cop


68 posted on 06/16/2018 5:49:40 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The article is about end people. You tried to conflate two different issues


69 posted on 06/16/2018 5:50:28 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Never mind. This is the reason I rarely post anymore. I made a simple and clear response to a simple statement you made. I also made it clear that my response to your comment had nothing to do with the EMTs. Hence, I could not and did not conflate anything.

Don’t turn something simple into something complex.

You made a comment about teachers and Ritalin and I responded to that and that alone.


70 posted on 06/16/2018 5:59:16 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

You compare two unlike things and then don’t like being allied out on it. That’s not my fault

Situation is forced without proper medical supervision

Situation B occurs because a parent chooses to send a child to a government school

Not even close to the same thing

The article and nt comments have been about the EMS and cops


71 posted on 06/16/2018 8:04:48 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Usually medications are given as directed by EMS and the ER doc on the other end of the radio.


72 posted on 06/17/2018 2:52:42 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Nifster

Thank you. And I have met many ICU nurses this past year. The best of the best. Not only do they have to be the best at what they do, they have to deal with keeping everyone together emotionally. Even parents who are having a rough time with it.


73 posted on 06/17/2018 3:44:51 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Chickensoup

Read the darned article...which is after all what started the thread

I understand what proper protocol is. That is NOT what was happening here Cops were telling Erma what to do....sadly they did it

Reminds me of the Utah fat boy who tried to bully a nurse into taking a blood sample without a court order. He arrested her. He found out that he ain’t in. Harge


74 posted on 06/17/2018 8:33:50 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: shelterguy
My daughter assured me that some of her most satisfying days are those where she can be a comfort to family members As a parent I know how tough it is to watch helplessly as your child is wheeled into surgery. Cannot imagine the additional of being in a specialty care unit I am sure this Father’s Day is bittersweet. May God bring you all peace And yeah parents can get cranky. 😉
75 posted on 06/17/2018 8:36:57 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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