Posted on 07/19/2018 3:38:26 AM PDT by 4Runner
The article says participants in the study took omega-3 supplements for at least a year. That’s not a very long period of time to study a supplement, or dietary effect on heart health.
Omega-3 is not a fast acting drug.
Human beings are Omnivores.
We eat all kinds of things.
Like Grandpa said, “All things, in moderation”.
Folks that eat healthy, probably also are somewhat active, don’t smoke, and are somewhat temperate.
You’re right—margarine is a disaster!
Dr. H. Gilbert Welch, a professor at Dartmouth Medical School has some very interesting comments about why the blood pressure standards were changed. From the NY Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/opinion/blood-pressure-guidelines.html
His books are also worthwhile: Overdiagnosed and Less Medicine More Health.
I’ve been taking the stuff for years as recommended by my doctor. Once I started, my cholesterol dropped like a lead balloon.
However that’s just one component to keeping a healthy heart. More important than anything else is diet, keeping body weight within a certain limit and exercise.
“It says everyone should get Omega-3s from animals (fish).”
So says the global anchovy fishing industry.
Or Krill, so says the global krill fishing industry.
Both are unsubstantiated yet heavily lobbied. However, there are studies that show flaxseed oil contains 10 times more amounts of Omega-3 than fish products.
The problem that I have with krill is that some people are allergic to shellfish, and they might be putting Krill into their bodies and having allergic reactions.
Everybody is allergic to shellfish. It is not that you are allergic to the shellfish itself, but it is when the body’s resistance to iodine breaks down that you become allergic to shellfish or anything with iodine content.
Truth be told, Benjamin Franklin was probably correct when he wrote that “everything should be in moderation.”
Scriptures also points to clean diets and Pulses, which contextually is often taken as “food grown from seed”, including fruit, vegetables or lentils (legumes). And also in moderation.
Scriptures, when broken down also instructs that scavenger meat should be avoided. The category scavenger is broad.
Have antioxidants or supplements containing isolated vitamins and minerals have ever been shown to be more effective than nutrients and other components in whole foods ?
They are usually more balanced and may be more biologically active and able to survive digestion, etc. As others have said, it is the entire diet and the way the nutrients in real foods are combined that is likely to be most important,
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This just in: SCIENTISTS DEBUNK OTHER SCIENTISTS!
Funny how medical “research” always funnels power and money to the medical industry. Expensive doctors giving expensive prescriptions and doing expensive procedures are the only solution to anything.
Well, that certainly screams PROPAGANDA.
The U of East Anglia is where the globalists pluck all the "AGW" numbers from each others' behinds.
That is what I do. I get the omega from eating wild caught fish. I don’t eat meat, however.
I was aware of some of the numbers and the controversy. I told my primary care provider that two months ago, I was merely "hypertensive." But thanks to the new regs I was now Stage 1, etc. She laughed and said not all providers are on board with the new guidelines.
I talked to her about the 2013 study that said that 150/90 is a suitable target for people over 60 because to give them meds is to risk fainting, broken hips, etc, and that threat is worse than high bp. But she said to keep that in context, 150/90 is talking about little old ladies who are already sedentary and light headed anyway.
She went on to say that I wasn't in that category. I'm very active, exercising/lifting weights/treadmill 3 to 5 days a week, cut my grass with a walk behind push mower, motorcyclist, etc. And that's the category the new guidelines would try to protect.
But the article you linked sums it up perfectly when it points out that trying to abide by the new guidelines will likely interfere with our other objective, viz. trying to live a reasonably satisfying life.
Anyway, thanks for the links.
Meat free diets are extremely unhealthy. If you want to shorten your lifespan that is one of the best ways to do it.
Yet I have seen a friend survive and almost entirely recover from a major thrombotic stroke after taking massive doses of fish oil and nattokinase. The rehab doctor and staff were astonished. Notably, the Cochrane Review limited its analysis to the effects of omega 3 on heart disease and disclaimed any insight into the effects of omega 3 on strokes. Is there anyone in their right mind though who would drop fish from their diet and or stop taking omega 3 supplements if they only protected against strokes?
What’s a few years shy of 109 anyway!
Cholesterol has gotten a bad rap over the years. It’s necessary to manufacture steroids and lipid rich myelin. Remember how we told not to eat eggs?
I also notice he is a strong proponent of specifically krill oil; I have taken it before but don’t have any right now. It tends to be quite pricey $$ and sometimes the organic store doesn’t have it.
If you look at the efficacy of the red krill oil vs. any other more generic fish oil, krill is far more effective, you take less of it, and it’s ultimately cheaper because of that.
I suspect there is a dollop of bad science involved in this as well. From the very beginning, based on an enormous survey of health care professionals conducted by the AMA, carried out over decades, there was only *one* conclusion.
Out of the many different kinds of cardio and stroke events, consuming one serving a week of cold water fish high in Omega-3 reduced *just one* kind of heart attack. Eating more than that doesn’t improve things.
The “dead before you hit the ground” heart attack. Just one among many kinds of heart events.
As an analogy, compare it to splinting a broken toe. Generally accepted as good medicine. However, if you lump broken toes with things like ingrown toenails, planar warts, foot fungus, etc., splints do not do *anything* for these other problems. So statistically, splints are ineffective for treating foot problems if you lump them together.
The bottom line is to just consume 1 Omega-3 or cold water fish a week, and you will likely substantially reduce the odds of having this *one kind* of heart event.
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