Posted on 08/08/2018 11:57:56 AM PDT by John S Mosby
Do not be surprised if legal cigarettes made from ganja (cannabis) hit the streets soon.
Major producers like Carreras are probing that and other cannabis possibilities, as increasing competition from illegally imported cigarettes continues to burn deeper into the profits of the legal trade.
It is no secret that British American Tobacco (BAT), the parent company of Carrerras, has, like other major US tobacco dealers including Phillip Morris, been looking at the cannabis market and the possibility of producing mild cigarettes restricted by the legal content of the main cannabinoids — cannabidiol (CBD) and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), although only THC is psychoactive.
Carreras Limited's Managing Director Marcus Steele has said that, like parent company BAT, Carreras is prepared to compete in a legal cannabis environment.
“As long as it is legal, we are in the combustible business. It happens to be cigarettes, but if tomorrow morning it is cannabis, it is another product in the combustible side of the business. I am sure we would be more than interested,” Steele said at last Thursday's sitting of the Jamaica Observer Press Club.
He said that anyone who has been tracking developments at BAT, which owns Carreras and several other tobacco companies in Latin America and the Caribbean, would understand how it has been approaching the issue of smoking cannabis.
(Excerpt) Read more at jamaicaobserver.com ...
That's a Hell of a lot bigger difference than most pot advocates will ever admit.
Here is candidate Trump speaking favorably about medical marijuana and leaving legalization to the states =>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWIQhDbs1g8
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President Trump supports the STATES Act, which leaves mj legalizaion to the States =>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M53XLBd54Y
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President Trump has already done more to facilitate legal marijuana in America than all of FR combined, and more than any president in history, including Obama.
It is Schedule I listed, and does cross the blood brain barrier, and is around for weeks in tissues in the CB1 and CB2 receptors. So, a narcotic? But a hallucinogenic-yep. And is currently US Schedule. Most do not understand this- even some “pharmacists” as opposed to professional clinical pharmacologists. Thanks for pointing it out.
THC is the principal psychoactive constituent of cannabis.The actions of THC result from its partial agonist activity at the cannabinoid receptor CB1 (Ki=10nM[18]), located mainly in the central nervous system, and the CB2 receptor (Ki=24nM)in other tissues. The CB1 receptor is in the brain and CNS. The agent crosses the blood brain barrier. In addition multiple cannabimimetic agents, synthetic or otherwise are Schedule I listed, for the same reason. Like it or not, along with opioids, depressants (and not acohol— I get it), and stimulants.
I view it as a narcotic— because of the actions of metabolites and further susceptible gene dosing identified in the UK for schizoid reactivity and changes in brain development. Technically, not a narcotic, you are correct.
I get it and get Trump’s point. The problem centers around the old 17th Amendment and our Senators who are elected by outside the States’ interests. Interests like international major tobacco industry pushers of legalization for their own bottom line. The ones who will end up owning the growers, just like they own tobacco growers now.
That’s point one.
Point two is... the clinical benefit argument, which is demonstrably not there... except for the component non-psychoactive cannabinoid Cannabidiol or CBD oil. As produced in small percentage in average hemp plants. And produced 99% in genetically patented plants from Israel, that also produce zero, NO THC. For CBD oil which does have significant clinical benefit and has just been approved by FDA as a component of an antiseizure drug from the UK. Legal, non-psychoactive, and anti-seizure.
The rest of the “medical” babble is just that, from growers and processors who want and.... need the psychoactive habituation of THC to sell their product. Personal argument for me, just as it is in tobacco— is the smoking of vegetable product that produces major carcinogens (100s more of them in c. sativa). Cancer. Vape the oil— not so— no smoke, no tar. Clinical benefit from either method for THC— it’s not there. CBD...it is. But, no high-— so.....
So, the vaping of THC is supported through US major corps (inclucing Big Tobacco) because of the “line extension” of another habituating agent. Not a fan of that at all. And do not care what someone over 50 does- smoke or no.
Repeal the 17th— then we can talk about our dear Senators and “local, State” control.
“Repeal the 17th— then we can talk about our dear Senators and “local, State” control.”
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The states have already told fedgov to eff off in this matter, if you’ll pardon my French, and made it stick. They have asserted their legitimate authority under the Tenth Amendment, and Sessions or anybody else is not going to do squat. Trump rules the roost!
I’m not going to wait for the 17th to be repealed before taking the side of the 10th Amendment against the fraudulent FDR/LBJ Commerce Clause when the opportunity presents itself.
FWIW, I started smoking as a child and kept on through my time in the military. I had one of the highest GT scores (127) in my unit. I had a TS-SCI for 8 years - if I told you what I did and who I did it for, you wouldn't believe me.
Today I own race cars a big house and rental condos and sell I big giant buildings - and WOULD smoke every day - but just got kind of bored with it after all those years.
IOW, you're full of s**t and don't know what you're talking about.
“Like Panama Red wrote “Thank the Lord, for that good ole Booze- it’s pretty safe... and easy to use”. Pharmacologically speaking.”
Well, like Dave Van Ronk wrote:
Well, the hashish interest in Mexico
Has found a way to redouble their dough
Let’s all get the habit, marijuana’s here to stay
So if you want a treat and you don’t mind the treatment
Smoke pot! It’s the thinking man’s cigarette
“No stems, no seeds that you don’t need.....Acapulco Gold is.....*psssssssss*.......bad ass weeeeeeeed!”
btt
THC boom!
The Federal Government has zero Constitutional authority to regulate what consenting adults put into their bodies.
None.
It’s a matter for the States.
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What do you mean....? LOL!! Not trying to have a conversation.... just reporting.
Unfortunately it was only too obvious you weren’t interested in a conversation.
Wall of words? You poor fellow. Look what dope did to you, lol. Lots of people own condos and big buildings. And 4.2 million currently have a TS clearance. whoopee. Don’t justify it. Sound like John Morgan or his buddy Charlie Crist. They’re mighty impressive in the old intellect dept., yep.
Don’t need confession for dialogue. My advocacy is for non-psychoactive high quality vegetation-less Cannabidiol (CBD)clinically proven non-opioid pain and seizure reliever. Patented NO-THC cannabis varietal from which CBD oil is processed. Not “let’s get high” RJ Reynolds, Phillip Morris,BAT marketed habituating line extension pot filter cigarettes, lobbied for by that loser moron John Boehner. Simple as that. Frankly tobacco (nicotine) is more addictive than heroin- so the point about THC is that it is habituating and long term psychoactive neurologically and genetically (UK studies show genomic markers for schizophrenia triggered by chronic THC exposure). Problem, cancerwise- IS the smoke and the tars, that don’t need to be there, except for the people selling the high for zero clinical significance.
Next time you leap, don’t do it to conclusions, and lay off the “you don’t know” with me. Because, FRiend- I do know. Clinical Forensic Pharmaco-Biochemist working on new agents for cardiology and vascular biology for over 30 years, with patents nationally and internationally.
How discerning— this was reportage from Jamaica land, proof positive of globalist corporations as the true pushers of yet another destructive agent. As a “combustible”. Hilarious.
What conversation would you like. Are you a clinician, with any experience in addiction (aside from personal debilitation). How about Rasta-mam John Boehner who used to be Speaker of the House. He was stoned, and definitely missed it. What a leader, what a Patriot. Deo Vindice.
Facts might be one thing, but I think the conversation might also be important as this subject is being debated where the rubber meets the road in just about every Legislature that hasn’t already bought the medical, recreational use or both. It is coming despite any facts related to it’s harm or lack of. The fortunate States in my opinion will be those who will let the early adopters do the leg work of regulation, and control. Early adopters are learning very quickly that it is not God’s answer to anything but difficulties all around. When those are all ironed out, then Utopia./s
From a Christian and historical perspective— all this pushing of yet another feel good taxable agent— if reflective of the way a ruling (taxing) class can control people. A historical true view would be one of the cocaine provided to ancient Incan slaves by the Incan kings, who kept their slave workers high on coca leaves which also made them work without eating-— until they died. It is a governmental and psychological notion— if you tax a thing... you “control” a thing. And, in the case of these commodities (and booze, cigarettes) the use of the addicting agents are another form of control . It worked with booze in the Old West on the American Indians- who were particularly susceptible, and then of course there’s the British Empire and the Opium trade (Americans in Boston made millions on this as well) and the Boxer Rebellion.
Agree with your Sarcasm tag.... yep Utopia- that’s the ticket. Wouldn’t be the first time this was sold this way- to malleable complacent stupid populace by craven greedy opportunists (who always defend their own drug use). Funny- seems like the islamofascists who sell heroin-— the dealers are devout and.... never use their own product. The societal damage easily done when these same islamos are buying our politicians (like the Colombians did... and do).
Well said, although I am not sure my history books included this point: (Americans in Boston made millions on this as well)
I may have to look into that.
The “Clipper Ships” of the day were hauling cargo, yes. The agent for sales/distro on board for the owners was known as a “Supercargo”. Black tar opium to San Francisco, which made it out thru the old West to/by the Chinese coolie labor on the railroads coolie gangs (and opium dens all over the West, Denver, Dodge City, San Fran, Deadwood, and thousands of areas where coolie labor interacted with the locals (money to be made), along with the silk trade. In the same way the major money of the first slave trading was made through transshipment from Africa by Boston owned ships.
Excellent book on that topic is “White Cargo”— about indentured servitude from the English Empire to the American Colonies and to sugar plantations in the West Indies (the first “workers” there were from Ireland, sentenced to “transportation”— long before the blacks, were imported and then “bred”). Includes vast amount of research on the Ogelthorpe criminal colony near Savannah (Irish, again). Not to mention the little London street urchins who were sent away to get them off the streets. (Oliver Twist, was Dickens’ commentary on those times).
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