Posted on 08/12/2018 8:10:23 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
That’s when you call Saul and sue them into oblivion.
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What happens when no attorney will accept such a case/client?
In my area, there is a huge medical institution. It is openly the most expensive anywhere, according to insurance companies (and the medical giant’s own insurance department), even though it exists in a relatively small state and in 3rd/4th tier cities. It double bills. If an insurer denies payment, it simply waits until the next tranche of bulk insurance payments and resubmits the charges, which are then paid.
Sue them? EVERY competent attorney within 200 miles is on retainer to this institution. Not one of them could represent a patient without violating conflict of interest laws &/or jeopardizing their own business existence within the area. Out-of-area attorneys either lack the license qualifications or are so expensive, small claimants cannot afford their services.
Effectively, this medical giant can do whatever they like, with impunity because no one will stop them.
And Saul is a shyster.
The fairness doctrine existed during a time when there were limited numbers of licensed radio and TV owners. There is virtually no limit to how many Facebook pages there can be. The only thing necessary for fairness on Facebook is to to allow everyone to participate who aren’t breaking any laws.
Facebook may be privately owned, but it is refusing service to a category of users and potential users who aren’t breaking any laws. Discrimination, not so different from past forms of discrimination.
FR is not like Facebook, but more like an individual Facebook page with thousands of followers.
Yes, it's a lot less compelling. The main reason is that like the public square the town can regulate civic standards. The public square also doesn't give anyone the right to have a leaflet printer or fly a plane overhead with a banner (to use your prior failed analogy). The people in the public square have to buy or invent their own leafletting printer or rent an airplane from someone who owns one. The FAA can still restrict a flight but only for safety reasons.
The simple fact is that the internet cannot be censored. However there are two classes of traffic, the open traffic and the hidden traffic. FR is open and will always be open. FR Facebook (which we really only use when the FR server is down) would be censored or hidden if the Alex Jones scenario were extended to all conservatives. If FR Facebook were censored and have to be hidden, then we would be in the same category as the hacked servers and child porn peddlers. That would obviously be bad.
But your solution is much worse. Government regulators would decide standards of publishing and decency. We would be attacked by the left because we do not allow leftist propaganda unless it is labeled and posted for critique only (selective posting). The fact that FR does not allow gratuitous profanity and nudity would be challenged.
The solution is quite obvious to anyone posting here (or should be). You are posting on a private web server. It cannot be stopped by any government authority. It is not under the control of any government authority. We uphold our own standards of publishing and decency and it is very successful. We even banned the ridiculous idiot Alex Jones until recently (and his content will still only be selectively posted).
Don't fight with success. Don't force everyone to use Facebook.
Servers are $5 / month. Alex Jones could have a pair of servers in 10 countries for $100 a month. No government would be able to stop it, with the partial exception of the FBI if Alex Jones broke the law. Even then they would have a hard time taking down some of the servers.
Isn’t this out of the “rules for radicals”?
pick a target and isolate it?
This is the new two minute hate from 1984.
but now are they redefined as publishers since they have determined was is allowed content. They still allow racism from other groups regardless of skin color.
The problem is that you are ensuring the domination of Facebook. Any competitor to Facebook will be forced, by allies of Facebook in the regulatory agencies, to accept all kinds of trash that will turn them into a cesspool. They will also have the virtual equivalent of wheelchair ramps everywhere that Facebook will have no problem providing with their resources.
Regulation always inevitably turns into the way for monopolies remain monopolies.
I don’t think so. Facebook should not be able to censor, but the owner of an individual FB page should be able to control what happens on their page. FB is like a a giant apartment complex that shouldn’t discriminate, but the residents of individual apartments can determine who can visit their apartment and what they can do.
And, of course, there are some legal questions that come into play, but not views on political and social issues.
but the residents of individual apartments can determine who can visit their apartment and what they can do.
You are wrong about that also. Visitors must obey the rules of the apartment the same as the tenants. The apartment is not allowed to discriminate based on sex, race, religion and a few other specific qualities. But an apartment can say "no republicans" and there's nothing you can do about that.
(s) Verizon no longer services registered republicans(/s)
Levin’s show showed how china does that to universities.
Universities accept money for Confucius Centers to teach mandarin. In return universities have to (forced) deny access to dissidents.
If zuckerberg was a vegetarian he could ban anyone who eats steak.
Visitors must obey the rules of the apartment the same as the tenants.
Again, you assume that an apartment owner can establish most any rule they care to establish. They can't.
Again, you assume that an apartment owner can establish most any rule they care to establish. They can't.
Perhaps you missed the news where Sarah H-Sanders was kicked out of a restaurant. That was legal and we can boycott and protest, although since we are not the violent left we will be mostly ignored.
“FreeRepublic is a Private Club, Facebook is a privately owned Public Park.”
AMEN!
Let me repeat that...
“FreeRepublic is a Private Club, Facebook is a privately owned Public Park.”
“The DNC does NOT have to hire Republican operatives to satisfy EEOC guidelines.”
No, but The RNC may have to hire Democrat operatives to satisfy EEOC guidelines. Just wait.
What I missed was the court case where Sarah challenged that action and lost. I'm not so sure ejecting someone from a restaurant because of a disagreement over political views is legal, or whether that issue has ever be ruled on by a court. No one in Sarah's party was in that restaurant to discuss politics that evening.
Whatever, Facebook is in new legal territory. Anyone who observed how they've bounced around in their treatment of Diamond and Silk can see that. They aren't sure what they can and cannot do and neither is anyone else. It will be the subject of litigation and probably some new legislation. The incredible stupidity could well be allowing Facebook to restrict participation based on political and social views.
OMG! You people are arguing over the size and shape of the table!
Is “Big Tech” (not “Big Brother”), but the same idea, silencing a point of view they disagree with?
YES THEY ARE! Does this not SCARE you? Worry you? IT SHOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is “the beginning of the end” of freedom. NO EXAGERATION!
And half of you are arguing over minor points while your FREEDOM to be heard is being SILENCED!
“Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”
WAKE UP NOW! Don’t be part of the problem.
STOP helping the BAD GUYS!
Is what Big Tech doing to Alex Jones/INFOWARS WRONG?
Not “legal”, not “within their rights”, not technically justified” (private company). Just plain WRONG!
IT IS!
This is like the Royal Bank of Scotland commercial where the guy in a restaurant is choking and the other people at his table, see what is happening, discuss it, and do NOTHING to save the guy.
Someone from another table, comes over and performs the Heimlich maneuver on him and saves him.
Be THAT guy. The one that “saves the day”. Stop discussing the esoteric minutia and STAND UP FOR FREEDOM!!!!
While you still can.
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