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Why Your State Should NOT Legalize Weed
Barbwire ^ | August 15, 2018 | Larry Tomczak

Posted on 08/15/2018 9:06:53 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: fwdude

And the DU trolls come out of their cover.


81 posted on 08/15/2018 10:08:22 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Not to pot.

Thankfully the brief cocaine use was limited to the late 70s.


82 posted on 08/15/2018 10:09:13 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: fwdude
I’d suspect that they had a few too many run-ins with them growing up (or even now.)

And the ones who advocate prohibition are clearly tied in with the drug cartels that want to make sure legal weed doesn't cut into their business. Simple as that. We can make all the generalizations you want!

83 posted on 08/15/2018 10:09:17 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: sickoflibs

You’ve basically added another 5% to 10% more Americans to the addiction list.


84 posted on 08/15/2018 10:09:37 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: fwdude

I remember meeting a young evangelist named Larry Tomczak in 1975. Is this him?


85 posted on 08/15/2018 10:11:04 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: webheart
You can’t get rid of pot by making it illegal.

The silly argument of an anarchist.

"You can't get rid of theft by making it illegal."
"You can't get rid of rape by making it illegal."
"You can't get rid of murder or assault by making it illegal."

Well, can you?

86 posted on 08/15/2018 10:11:05 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude
Go hang out at the DUmp, jerk.

Have no facts, resort to ad hominem attacks. Lol. You go, girl!

87 posted on 08/15/2018 10:11:50 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: Berosus
I remember meeting a young evangelist named Larry Tomczak in 1975. Is this him?

Not a common name, so chances are good that it is.

The time frame seems about right.

88 posted on 08/15/2018 10:12:04 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: dware

Accusations of being in business with Mexican drug cartels are not ad hominem? Go buy a brain. A nickel one will do you.


89 posted on 08/15/2018 10:13:27 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: cuban leaf

Well if a video is a source of “proof”, which says “cannabis has killed no-one” then there are reams of documents at the NIH National Library of Medicine which would expose that as a huge LIE. Just for starters:

1) smoked cannabis has 100’s of proven carcinogens in the burned/chemically converted vegetables, oils, and cellulosic compounds in the plant. 100’s. Cancer, lung and other organ cancers. No mystery about this, and no filter (just like in tobacco) will filter it out.

2.) UK breakthrough research (genomic) has ID’d gene markers inherited in different human population groups— markers that are shown to be altered. In pre-menopausal females with the inherited susceptibility to the environmental triggers, who smoke pot during and through adolescence into young adulthood (defined age)— statistically have significant development of frank schizophrenia. This from the UK (Scotland) and Tel Aviv University published studies (in TAU— Human Molecular Genetics peer reviewed medical journal). The summary phrase from the investigators: “”In other words, young people with a genetic susceptibility to schizophrenia — those who have psychiatric disorders in their families — should bear in mind that they’re playing with fire if they smoke pot during adolescence.” The genomic analysis of the marker regions has extended this definition to way beyond only those with “psychiatric disorders in their families” — to actual identification of the chromosomal regions which are triggered.

No, schizophrenia doesn’t kill-—maybe.

But the genetic region triggers also are being ID’d for other behaviours and deficits in sensory response, and potential to harm themselves as well as others. Not a small deal at all.

It is not benign. No matter how many in the machinery try to push that it is. This is not “Reefer Madness” crapola. This is peer reviewed clinical data. BTW.... am no fan of tobacco or nicotine addiction. Nicotine is more addictive than heroin. No wonder RJ Reynolds loves selling it.

The unintended consequences... become known, and not for made up reasons.


90 posted on 08/15/2018 10:14:21 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: fwdude
Why Your State Should NOT Legalize Weed

I can attest from personal experience to the disaster this brings to communities.

My sister was forced to sell her ranch to escape the doper criminals, welfare potheads and lowlife hanger's on, and it cost her about 15% of her net worth.

Increased crime, vandalism and welfare costs far exceed the "whopping" tax revenues local pols and government employees expected and didn't get.

91 posted on 08/15/2018 10:14:48 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: Sparticus
You can’t argue with dope smoking dopes.
They’re not amenable to reason.

Man, were you right. The stupid burns.

92 posted on 08/15/2018 10:16:07 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

I will not argue or debate with any proponent of any vice that infringes on the rights of non-participants or impairs the users in such a way that they endanger or kill others. Use of such agents is simply wrong first and stupid second.


93 posted on 08/15/2018 10:16:22 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: cuban leaf

“”” Freedom means not only the freedom to succeed but also the freedom to fail. And the ability to be fully responsible for the results.“””

Except in this day and age the failures expect us to carry them.


94 posted on 08/15/2018 10:17:23 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: chris37

A former drug user you mean. Speaking from the AA perspective.

And really trying not to be judgemental, but... clinical. Supported by clinical data, repeatable data. My profession for 30 years.


95 posted on 08/15/2018 10:17:44 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Navy Patriot
I honestly don't get the silly argument that making something illegal grows the illegal underground markets for it.

Someone will always learn how to do something better or cheaper than the "legal" market. And people will always attempt to circumvent the numerous, but predictable, regulatory laws and costs involved in "staying straight."

96 posted on 08/15/2018 10:18:50 AM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude
Accusations of being in business with Mexican drug cartels are not ad hominem?

No, it's truth. All you are doing is making sure the cartels keep their product flowing. That is ALL you accomplish.

Here in Colorado, MILLIONS have been kept out of the hands of the cartels. New, state of the art police and fire facilities are being built. Rural areas are getting massively upgraded school facilities. City & County governments are providing more and better addiction treatment programs. Opioid use and overdoses are lower. All of this, thanks to legal pot.

But hey, screw all that. You want the cartels to continue to grow and be successful, obviously.

97 posted on 08/15/2018 10:18:50 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: RedStateRocker
Jackboot lickers gotta lick.

Hear! Hear! Brother.
Thank God for Florida making Medical Marijuana legal. My son, who is 29 years old and special needs due to uncontrolled epilepsy, has had wonderful results using Charlotte's Web
98 posted on 08/15/2018 10:18:53 AM PDT by Karma_Sherab
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To: chris37

Alcohol is definitely addictive, physically and otherwise. That is the reason for withdrawal symptoms like tremors. Does it rise to the level you brought up before with some substances that are more physically severe, not in any except the most severe cases, but alcohol has metabolic, biochemical, and neurochemical effects on the body. I’ve known people who were alcoholics. Malaise and paranoia were very typical. Overall, alcoholics are not happy people at all, but they can’t stop going back to it


99 posted on 08/15/2018 10:19:28 AM PDT by z3n
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To: fwdude

I am for Hemp and CBC but not for smoking pot for recreational use. You can’t get high from hemp but the lumped it into the drug category, same with CBC. CBC oil for pain management is much better than popping freaking tylenol and advil.


100 posted on 08/15/2018 10:19:55 AM PDT by klimeckg
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