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The U.S. should place more emphasis on hypersonic weapons development
Great Power War ^ | 10/8/18 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 10/08/2018 1:50:02 PM PDT by SleeperCatcher

Notes Griffin further, in terms of hypersonic missile development, “The rest of the world is not stupid, and they are catching up to us. And, in some areas, have caught up.”

Hypersonic vehicles can travel at speeds up to 5,500 miles per hour (hypersonic is considered five times the speed of sound or Mach 5). Currently, there are no missile defense systems that are agile enough to successfully target a hypersonic missile; in fact, current missile defense systems are vulnerable to spoofing by decoys and could also be rendered ineffective with electronic warfare.

If you add the element of super-speed, then the military advantages gained by fielding credible, workable hypersonic weapons become obvious.

(Excerpt) Read more at greatpowerwar.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; doubleblogpimp; hypersonic; mach5; missiledefense; russia
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To: BeauBo

“Its not about war IN space, its about war FROM space.”

No, it is about war in space involving killer satellite technology and countermeasures.


21 posted on 10/08/2018 3:23:04 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SleeperCatcher
We need to get the Chinese spies out of our Government and industrial base first, otherwise we develop stuff, and they field it faster and cheaper.

From Popular Science, Feb 2018 (https://www.popsci.com/china-navy-railgun-warship):

A GLOBAL FIRST: Type 072III landing ship tank (LST) Haiyang Shan, #936, would be the world's first railgun-armed warship. Its small size and lack of combat features means that it will likely be used to test and validate the technologies of the railgun.

Its barrel length makes the Chinese railgun similar in size to the BAE 32 megajoule railgun built for U.S. Navy testing. The BAE system is designed to fire 22-pound projectiles at Mach 7 speeds to more than 100 miles. The United States had earlier planned to install a railgun prototype on the USNS Trenton fast transport in 2016, but this was postponed for budgetary reasons.

22 posted on 10/08/2018 3:28:53 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SleeperCatcher

Last I read they were still testing rail guns for rate of fire and platform durability. Still got to figure out how to fit on a boat and supply the amps.


23 posted on 10/08/2018 3:44:01 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Kirkwood

(Space Force) “Its not about war IN space, its about war FROM space.”

“No, it is about war in space involving killer satellite technology and countermeasures.”

There is of course an element of contesting for dominance within the domain, but the purpose of dominating that domain is shifting strategically over time. Communications, imaging, weather and positioning will remain important space-based capabilities. But Strategic direct fire capability is coming - directed energy, “God-Rod” rail gun penetrators, nukes from orbit. Backward planning requires the long lead time organizational development. The strategic targets remain on the surface.


24 posted on 10/08/2018 3:45:30 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: mabarker1

I am not trying to badger you. Honest.

I am fascinated by the rail gun tech, that’s all.

Wishing good health. We are all going to need it.


25 posted on 10/08/2018 3:46:28 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: OftheOhio

So a designer at Company Y is privy to what is happening at Company A and Z?


26 posted on 10/08/2018 4:22:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Spit it out if you are so sure of yourself. I was a jet engine designer in the timeframe you mentioned. You are clueless. My “boys” didn’t develop the hyperburner until the mid 90’s.


27 posted on 10/08/2018 4:36:37 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: OftheOhio

As Christine Ford might say “Those aren’t my recollections.” Many people remember things differently. I remember reading reports on the subject before I left intelligence in 1983. What was I reading about? Science fiction?


28 posted on 10/08/2018 4:44:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you knew anything, you would know Hypersonics was a collaboration of companies and educational institutions in support of the goal. Much of our goal during the 90’s was an open book with numerous white papers on the subject. We all were well informed. Those days are gone after Clinton sold the trash pickups to the F’ing Chinese. We started having to shred everything in sight after that. As I said, your memory is pure fantasy.


29 posted on 10/08/2018 5:06:43 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: OftheOhio

I was a mere spear carrier in intelligence, although I worked with some giants like Generals Vessey and Haig and Lieutenant General Ross. You being a team leader probably remember things better than I do.


30 posted on 10/08/2018 5:23:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you. I’ll have to add Laser systems as weapon systems are not their strong suit. I’ve seen several, mind blowing in reality.


31 posted on 10/08/2018 5:35:06 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: BeauBo

> Line of sight weapons like lasers, need a good line of sight.

And don’t forget the Rods from God, which some hypothesize were already employed against the Norks one year ago this month.


32 posted on 10/08/2018 5:48:38 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: Vermont Lt

All good, except for the memory stuff. And it’s weird. Can remember crap fron 30 yesrs ago but breakfast 2 days ago coulda been a cheeseburger.

If it comes back in I’ll Ping Ya.

Take Care and Stay Safe.


33 posted on 10/08/2018 7:53:57 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: mabarker1

Covfefe to die for. https://store.konacoffee.com/


34 posted on 10/08/2018 8:56:16 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: SleeperCatcher

It is very hard to maneuver hypersonic missiles, It seems the main weakness is in the ability of someone to positively target someone, especially a mobile target.

Russia demonstration was against a known target with all the target information available, why the weakness is that you often have limited or very basic target information.

I suspect in real wargaming we would find a large number of misses. If we were under the belief that no hostilities were underway we might not react the way we need to when being targeted but they would only get one shot.

After that we are going to be zigging and zagging all over the place in a random pattern.

I don’t really seeing the current generation of these missiles being effective.

What they need is a two missile system where you have a targeting cruise missile to provide target information to the launcher and the hypersonic in flight to ensure a target has perfect targeting information.

This targeting missile would ideally be very stealthy.

Of course a stealthy drone could do the same.


35 posted on 10/09/2018 6:30:28 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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