Posted on 02/27/2019 11:47:11 AM PST by Impala64ssa
And a new NY could write its new state constitution in such a way as to allow the state to declare bankruptcy if need be.
“North of Rockland and Westchester counties, Trump won by 100K.”
That is surprising because even upstate the population centers of Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica and Albany still out vote the rural areas. There is still a recession going on in places like Binghamton and a lot of the other rural parts of NYS. It surprises me that the Plattsburg area way up in the NE corner is a blue county. It does not surprise me that Ithaca/Cornell county is Blue.
Not too many people live in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Binghamton and Albany anymore. Plattsburgh votes like Vermont and Ithaca is evil. About 850,000 people live in those eight blue upstate cities
About 6.25 million people live outside those cities north of Rockland and Westchester.
Damn straight. It's been a story up there for ages, but only recently has it started to gain any traction. The number of progressives and outright Socialists has grown exponentially in the MD 'burbs around DC since I was born and raised there. We generally had a fighting chance back when Reagan was in office, and once Slick Willy got elected, the libs invaded the state like the infestation of rats that they are. What has it gotten us? Two federal prisons, an influx of meth and other dope from the Baltimore/Washington area, a crime rate nobody would have thought possible, and not a lot else. I can remember, even 20 or 25 years ago, you could still leave your front door unlocked at night. Now everyone has ADT security systems and police scanners. It's payback from Annapolis for not toeing the liberal line. Sure, we'll send you jobs. Urban thugs, drugs, half-assed efforts at generating tourism. My buddy and I were driving around up there a couple of Christmases ago, and he just shook his head and said, "This town just looks so........'seedy' now." And he was right. It's a shame because the geography is beautiful, the history alone would give you pause, but liberals want to either control or destroy everything they touch. I've long held a fantasy of being a suburban pest control technician and just straddling I-85 with a flamethrower, and burning a twenty mile wide swath on either side of the interstate. Maryland pretty well consistently votes red, except for Baltimore, Howard, P.G., and Montgomery counties, where 85 runs straight through. If Western MD seceded and joined WV, then WV would glow ruby red.
“Splitting California would be a good idea also.”
I’ve heard that before and thought it was a good idea until we started watching Murder Mountain on Netflix.
My understanding now is northern Kalifornia has a good share of hippie style pot growers that are just totally worthless people.
Then down south it’s flooded with illegals.
IMO the whole state is just worthless, especially since pot is legalized.
I can see dividing New York as one good state might evolve from it.
Plattsburg is another SUNY college town. Not much else there other than the college and a prison. They vote alike.
I grew up south of Buffalo in Orchard Park. I went to college in Syracuse. I did not realize that there were that many people outside the cities in upstate NY. Of course, nobody lives in Buffalo except homies. All de white folk move out to the burbs in the 1960’s and 70’s.
Plattsburg is another SUNY college town. Not much else there other than the college and a prison. They vote alike.
I grew up south of Buffalo in Orchard Park. I went to college in Syracuse. I did not realize that there were that many people outside the cities in upstate NY. Of course, nobody lives in Buffalo except homies. All de white folk move out to the burbs in the 1960’s and 70’s.
And perhaps the best way to stop the bleeding is to allow Upstate New York to become an independent state without all the expensive regulatory burdens and mandates and liberal feel-good programs that are killing the economy and driving Upstate New Yorkers to more business friendly, low tax states.
[[There is still a recession going on in places like Binghamton and a lot of the other rural parts of NYS.]]
Since forever after the manufacturing base was decimated. Remember being up there during the booming 90’s and it was practically tobacco road.
I grew up in Orchard Park, NY. A suburb south of Buffalo. My brother went to SUNY Binghamton. I went to SUNY Syracuse/SU. I remember seeing Tom Petty at the Broom County arena in 1983. That area has been depressed ever since IBM moved out. Buffalo has been depressed since the unions killed the steel industry back in the 70’s. Rochester had three big employers: Xerox, Kodak and Bausch & Lomb. They are all gone.
My 92 year old mother still lives in Orchard Park. I love my mom but I HATE going there to visit. The weather always sucks. It is depressing.
I dunno. It might be like Illinois casting off its NE corner.
Compared to the rest of the state, Chicago is a foreign country.
Instead of statewide voting that contributes to a national popular vote, declare that the party that wins the lower chamber (the Assembly) chooses the Electors to the Electoral College.
The people still vote, but locally. New York City will no longer dominate the state. The Assembly itself will act as a statewide electoral college that gives all regions of the state a voice.
-PJ
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