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Maui’s outdated bare electrical wires and leaning poles caused wildfires to spread rapidly
New York Post ^ | August 27, 2023

Posted on 08/28/2023 4:12:03 AM PDT by george76

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To: george76

I see the deep state is still pushing this ridiculous story. If they the MSM to repeat it enough times maybe people will believe it. 😏


81 posted on 08/28/2023 8:22:03 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: EEGator

You are correct. High voltage lines would also have to be buried 6 feet deep, and the cables would have to be fully insulated against the ground. And buried transformers...Such things are possible, but no one would be able to afford electricity.


82 posted on 08/28/2023 8:28:16 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: central_va

Thank you. That is an idiotic argument right there. Now, leaning poles and not doing proper brush clearing of the lines; that is both stupid and deadly.
But hey, they had to spend money on green power, right?


83 posted on 08/28/2023 8:40:01 AM PDT by vpintheak (There is no Trans. There is only mentally ill)
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To: central_va

It’s illegal to have uninsulated high voltage lines per national electrical distribution codes.

If they were uninsulated the 70,000 volt lines would be arcing off the towers that support them and non stop fires.

All power lines require insulation period.


84 posted on 08/28/2023 8:46:46 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Vaduz
Wiki:

An overhead power line is a structure used in electric power transmission and distribution to transmit electrical energy across long distances. It consists of one or more uninsulated electrical cables (commonly multiples of three for three-phase power) suspended by towers or poles.

Since most of the insulation is provided by the surrounding air, overhead power lines are generally the least costly method of power transmission for large quantities of electric energy.


PS: I have a BS degree in EE.
85 posted on 08/28/2023 9:08:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: george76

Every single bureaucracy, NGO, utility, and government entity on those islands is run by incompetent liberals.


86 posted on 08/28/2023 9:29:32 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: bryan999

No! It is very expensive to bury power and communication lines. Separately, the lines that most need burying serve the fewest people making the cost per user even higher.

1960s poles should not be a problem. I have seen poles from the 1930s (they should be replaced).

I find this pole argument to be bogus. Once the first pole goes down and the line breaks, the rest are not getting power.


87 posted on 08/28/2023 9:34:23 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: Vaduz

Are you referring to the pins and insulators on the poles?
The wire is not insulated, but bare. Yes, it is tied to an insulator, but it is not insulated wire.


88 posted on 08/28/2023 10:41:50 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Enterprise

Absolutely


89 posted on 08/28/2023 10:55:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: piytar

Yes. Big time lying.


90 posted on 08/28/2023 10:56:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: SteveH

It is HI.


91 posted on 08/28/2023 10:59:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: EEGator

The wire is not insulated

Those are not transmission lines the are guy wires


92 posted on 08/28/2023 1:18:57 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: central_va

There is no such thing as a uninsulated transmission line guy wires yes.

your BS degree is noted


93 posted on 08/28/2023 1:22:17 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: george76

Generally speaking, almost all transmission and distribution wires mounted on poles are “bare” - that is, the only insulation they have is the air around them and the little (or big) insulator that attaches them to the pole or tower.

Underground conductors are insulated but cost 10+ times the cost to install as overhead. Not bad when you have an entire city/neighborhood to share the cost, but when you get out where population is less dense, it’s cost-prohibitive. And transmission lines require some extreme insulation due to their very high voltage.

So to say that bare wires are a bad thing - well, YOU can pay to have YOUR wires insulated, but I’ll stick with the somewhat cheaper rates. Someone has to pay since that is a cost of doing business.

Now, to the extent that things are run-down, that might be a factor.


94 posted on 08/28/2023 1:24:18 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: george76

Maybe they should paint the poles and wires that ugly blue - the same ugly blue that Oprah’s roof uses. :)


95 posted on 08/28/2023 1:26:05 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: Vaduz
There is no such thing as a uninsulated transmission line guy wires yes.

You are an odurate a$$. I just posted reality and you deny it.


It consists of one or more uninsulated electrical cables (commonly multiples of three for three-phase power) suspended by towers or poles.

Since most of the insulation is provided by the surrounding air, overhead power lines are generally the least costly method of power transmission for large quantities of electric energy.

96 posted on 08/28/2023 1:31:12 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Pretty hard to pump water through the city without electricity. Although apparently, at least one idiot thought that water use was racist or some such nonsense and proceeded to shut it off.

Lots of things happened with this fire incident, most of them not good. The police locking people down. Kids home alone from school.


97 posted on 08/28/2023 1:32:14 PM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: Vaduz

I honestly don’t understand understand what you’re saying.

A guy wire is what is attached to the pole and an anchor in the ground.
Or a guy wire can go from pole to pole.
Many guy connections are insulated from the pole attachment to 78” down from there.


98 posted on 08/28/2023 1:32:58 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: central_va

I don’t understand what he is saying.


99 posted on 08/28/2023 1:34:18 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Vaduz
Why Power Lines Are Not Insulated (Plus Interesting Facts)

link here

100 posted on 08/28/2023 1:38:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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