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CIA uncovers missile moves by China
Washington Times ^ | 9/08/01 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 09/08/2001 12:40:26 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:46:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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21 posted on 09/09/2001 10:00:43 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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24 posted on 09/09/2001 10:02:45 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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25 posted on 09/09/2001 10:03:26 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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26 posted on 09/09/2001 10:03:58 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Fed up with anti-Americans at home and abroad, bump.

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27 posted on 09/09/2001 10:07:07 PM PDT by kcvl
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29 posted on 09/09/2001 11:28:04 PM PDT by goldilucky
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30 posted on 09/10/2001 6:16:43 PM PDT by goldilucky
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I bump to boycott trade with China
31 posted on 09/10/2001 6:21:12 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: backhoe; ALOHA RONNIE; LarryLied; flamefront; Stand Watch Listen; KLT; Snow Bunny; goldilucky...
Thanks for the link to Gertz's site. BTTT
32 posted on 10/24/2001 7:18:34 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: goldilucky; ALOHA RONNIE
(sorry I missed all your pings to me - about this foreboding article last month gold-I'll now make amends)

"China's support for Pakistan's missile program was disclosed last month by The Washington Times. U.S. intelligence officials said China sold missile goods for Pakistan's Shaheen-1 and Shaheen-2 missiles both of which are judged to be nuclear-weapons delivery systems."

Yes, that's our good pals the - bastard Communist Chinese elite - and just think, treasonous bastard Bill Clinton and Bernard Schwartz - sold all our nuclear secrets to the Chinese - for cash - right in through the front doors of the Clinton White House! Thanks treasonous bastard Bill Clinton.

33 posted on 10/24/2001 7:22:41 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
Amen to this post!
34 posted on 10/24/2001 9:35:19 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ChaseR
I liked those links, ChaseR!
35 posted on 10/24/2001 9:38:11 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: goldilucky

DEBKA WAS ON TO CHINA WEEKS AGO!!!!

DEBKAfile

Wednesday, October 17, 2001

CHINA

China Moves Forces into Afghanistan
6 October, 2001

Before even the launching of the major US military offensive in Afghanistan, long Chinese convoys were carrying armed Chinese Muslim servicemen through northwest China into Afghanistan, according to DEBKAfile’s intelligence experts.
They were sent in to fight alongside the ruling Taliban and Osama Bin Laden’s Al Qaeda.  Their number is estimated roughly between 5000 and 15,000. Our sources report another three convoys are behind the first 3000, who crossed the frontier Friday, October 5.
They are entering Afghanistan along the ancient Krakoram Road to the Afghan-Pakistani border, through the Kulik Pass of Little Pamir, which is situated in one of the highest and most remote regions of the world.
Beijing is deploying this force in two places:
A.  Whakyir, the Kirgyz tribal encampment near the Little Pamir-Tadjik frontier, opposite the swelling concentration of US and Russian Special Forces and air strength
The Chinese have brought with them Kirgyz fundamentalist militants from the Ferghana Valley of Central Asia, as interpreters.
From Whakyir, the Chinese generals believe, with Bin Laden’s and the Taliban’s tacticians, they will be able to block off the movement of the US-led force from its rallying point in Dzhartygumbez, Tadjikistan, no more than 35 miles from Little Pamir, into the mountains of Hindu Kush.
B. Jalalabad in north Afghanistan, at the foot of the Hindu Kush range.
DEBKAfile’s Chinese sources reveal that, immediately after the terrorist strikes in the United States on September 11, the Chinese intelligence service, MSS, handed in to the defense ministry in Beijing their estimation that the United States would go to war to overthrow the Taliban regime, for the sake of which it would sign a pact with Russia. The Chinese leadership viewed this eventuality as the most significant shift in the global balance since the 1962 Chinese-Russian feud, with dangerous implications for China’s world standing and its interests in Central and Southwest Asia. They decided it must be counteracted.
The only satisfactory outcome of the Bin Laden crisis in Chinese eyes is the redeployment of Japanese-based US troops to the Persian Gulf, when the Kitty Hawk carrier moved the 3rd Marines Division out of Okinawa last week.
Chinese intelligence did not miss the absence of fighters and reconnaissance craft on her decks. The planes stayed behind, but the very fact that the Kitty Hawk is no longer within operational range of the Straits of Taiwan leaves the disputed island with diminished protection.
Beijing also took note of additional US military movements, including the Army’s 10th Mountain Division based at Fort Drum, New York and that of another formerly Pacific-based unit, the 25th Infantry Division, out of Hawaii to the Persian Gulf.
According to DEBKAfile’s Far East experts, the removal of substantial US military strength from the Pacific Rim opened the way for Chinese intervention in Afghanistan and its effort to slow down the US-Russian advance.

 

Chinese Fighters Killed in US Strikes against Kahandar
20 October: DEBKAfile has learned from military sources in Dushanbe and Bishbek, capitals of Tajikistan and the Kyrgizstan respectively, that at least 15 Chinese fighting men on the side of the Taliban, were killed in last week’s US bombing over Kahandar and in a separate incident on the ground. This report as confirmed by Pakistani sources in Peshawar, who discovered the Chinese presence alongside the Taliban from their own intelligence reports on the death of the commander of Arab Afghan troops in Jalalabad, Basir al Masri, who was a senior aide to Osama Bin Laden and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad chief, Ayman al Zuweiri.
Al Masri appears to have been caught by an American bombardment, just as he was leaving Kahandar for Jalalabad after meeting Taliban leaders. They warned him as he left that US Special Force units were operating in the southern and western outskirts of the town. Because they thought the size of his bodyguard insufficient, they offered to a detail of their own men to see him safely past the danger zone. Among that armed escort were five Chinese fighters.  A Special Forces unit waylaid the group and detonated explosive charges, one of which hit Abu Basir’s vehicle and a second the escort vehicles. Most of the escort was killed, including three of the Chinese guards. The next day, their bodies were carried into Kandahar.
Another 10 Chinese fighters died in US bombardments.
DEBKAfile ’s sources have no doubt that the Chinese combatants fought in a Taliban unit – and were not part of Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda or its associated Egyptian Jihad forces in Afghanistan. Neither organization admits non-Arab adherents – certainly not as guards for its senior officers.
According to DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources the mutually beneficial Chinese-bin Laden relationship goes back some years. The British daily, Guardian, carries a report Saturday by John Hooper in Milan, claiming that three years ago, China paid bin Laden several million dollars for unexploded American cruise missiles left over from the US attack on his bases. Hooper quotes an alleged senior Al Qaida agent in Europe, whose account is contained in the transcript of a secretly taped conversation between two bin Laden adherents.
The Americans fired 75 missiles in the raid on bin Laden’s bases in Afghanistan, carried out on August 20, 1988, in reprisal for the terrorist strikes against US embassies in East Africa. Forty were found unexploded.
The conversation taped took place in Milan between a Libyan called Ben Heni -  who was arrested in Munich last week and accused by the Italian prosecution of being the liaison officer between two Al Qaida cells in Frankfurt and Milan – and a leader of the Italian cells, Sami Ben Khemmais Essid. The Italian police had bugged the flat.
According to the Guardian report, the two men confirmed bin Laden’s close ties with China and described how the huge sums the Chinese paid for the unexploded US missiles helped him finance his next three years of Al Qaida operations.

36 posted on 10/24/2001 9:43:16 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
This is very interesting report. I've never heard of Debkafile.
37 posted on 10/24/2001 9:48:24 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: goldilucky

Debka is the scourge of FR. But they are scooping the pants off many mainline sources.  Click the link below, and check it out for yourself.

DEBKAfile

38 posted on 10/24/2001 9:52:58 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Thank you for this site. What behooves me is that Bush is making military alliances with Russian Pres. Putin. Putin might as well be smirking behind the American's backs regarding any military alliance with the U.S.
39 posted on 10/24/2001 9:59:59 PM PDT by goldilucky
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