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William Cohen just spoke on CNN via telephone and said some scary things
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Posted on 09/11/2001 12:13:20 PM PDT by libertarian_usa

I can roughly quote William Cohen from his live interview on CNN within the last 10 minutes: "We are going to have to make some tough decisions in this country. We are going to have to "garbled" when making choices between security and civil liberties."


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1 posted on 09/11/2001 12:13:20 PM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: libertarian_usa
Franklin's aphorism is as good today as it was when first written, and I paraphrase, "Those who are willing to sacrifice a bit of liberty for a bit of security -- are worthy of neither."
2 posted on 09/11/2001 12:17:18 PM PDT by BenR2
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To: libertarian_usa
Sorry William. That's not the "tough choice". The choice is whether to nuke Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, and Libya off the face of the planet to ensure that this never happens again. We say, "You kill 10,000 of ours. We incinerate 10,000,000 of yours." Sorry if this sounds like a "war-monger" but we need to have an overwhelming response.
3 posted on 09/11/2001 12:18:59 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: libertarian_usa
He's another turncoat idiot. The way to prevent this from happening again is to respond quick, respond deadly, respond with a message. Civil liberties should become stronger, not weaker.
4 posted on 09/11/2001 12:19:28 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: libertarian_usa
Mr. Cohen can personally come to my place to collect my "civil liberties".

For a former Pubbie, this POS has really become a real Clintonista fascist.

He can bite my rosie-red bum.

prambo

5 posted on 09/11/2001 12:20:53 PM PDT by prambo
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Years ago in the USMC we used to say, "Nuke 'em All and let God sort 'em out.
6 posted on 09/11/2001 12:22:37 PM PDT by Paine's Ghost
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To: libertarian_usa
Is it time to spring the Y2K Clinton FEMA holdover mouse trap?
7 posted on 09/11/2001 12:24:07 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: prambo
William Cohen? Who the hell is William Cohen? Just some has-been, idiotic, boob from a former administration whose only accomplishment was to screw the US military. To hell with him. I'm not interested in his opinion on anything.
8 posted on 09/11/2001 12:24:46 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I agree. Our response and subsequent multiple retaliations need to be so severe that thousands of years from now the decendents of our enemies still pray on their knees that America never gets mad again.
10 posted on 09/11/2001 12:26:22 PM PDT by Southack
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To: libertarian_usa
Was it scarier than watching 10000 people die?
11 posted on 09/11/2001 12:26:57 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: BenR2
Franklin's aphorism is as good today as it was when first written, and I paraphrase, "Those who are willing to sacrifice a bit of liberty for a bit of security -- are worthy of neither."

Yes.

There are two ways to go. We do little except try and catch specific individuals involved and make the US a police state to stop future acts.

Or we completely re-organize our national defense, security and international relations.

We can bring it out to those who are part of this enemy axis and stop it. That means US military presence and action in the world.

Or we can become a police state ourselves.

I am glad Cohen and his crew are no longer in power. We know what he would choose.

12 posted on 09/11/2001 12:27:50 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: flamefront
A worrisome thought isn't it!
13 posted on 09/11/2001 12:27:55 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: libertarian_usa
We can all thank the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, William Kuntsler, et.al for defanging all of the intelligence agencies, both military and law enforcement.

These people used the veil of religious freedom to ban all surveillance of suspected terrorists groups.

14 posted on 09/11/2001 12:28:18 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: libertarian_usa
I hope one of those decisions is "Do we make it tougher to get into this country?"

These were domestic flights which means these terrorists were IN this country when they boarded the planes.

15 posted on 09/11/2001 12:28:43 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I agree with you and Wyatt. Lets go after our enemys. We know who they are. We need to do this right now.
16 posted on 09/11/2001 12:29:42 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: libertarian_usa
Actually, William, just let us carry our guns whenever and wherever we please. Protection against terrorists and tyrants alike.
17 posted on 09/11/2001 12:32:45 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: Wyatt's Torch
It is time to unleash (either a totally American or maybe with a few trusted neighbors) a dedicated band of anti-terrorists to wipe out every one of these deranged Muslim/Islam fanatics.

If we get a few by mistake....TS.

Screw this "bring them to justice" bullshit.

I want the bastards dead!

How can they believe that there is a God who welcomes as martyrs those who kills thousands of innocent civilians?

18 posted on 09/11/2001 12:32:45 PM PDT by JimVT
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To: Wyatt's Torch
And I can't imagine there'll be many Americans not supporting it. This is beyond horrible. Expand your list to Saudi Arabia and the other oil countries that have financed these monsters.
19 posted on 09/11/2001 12:33:34 PM PDT by karth
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To: 45Auto
William Cohen? Who the hell is William Cohen? Just some has-been, idiotic, boob from a former administration whose only accomplishment was to screw the US military. To hell with him. I'm not interested in his opinion on anything.

I'm not interested in his opinion in that it has no impact now on national security.

I am concerned, however, that this nation once had him as Defense Secretary, and if we had an Al Gore as President today, Cohen or someone like him would be able to implement their views.

His statements now are therefore a cautionary tale of what could have been, and what could yet be.

20 posted on 09/11/2001 12:33:41 PM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: Wyatt's Torch
And I can't imagine there'll be many Americans not supporting it. This is beyond horrible. Expand your list to Saudi Arabia and the other oil countries that have financed these monsters.
21 posted on 09/11/2001 12:33:56 PM PDT by karth
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To: BenR2
Franklin's aphorism is as good today as it was when first written, and I paraphrase, "Those who are willing to sacrifice a bit of liberty for a bit of security -- are worthy of neither."

Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check? We DO give up some freedoms for security.

22 posted on 09/11/2001 12:34:55 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: libertarian_usa
I just can not imagine the US & Israeli not having some kind of intelligence reports on this. It is just too big an operation for some one in the "Intelligence Family" not to have know something BIG was in the works....

But then maybe I am expecting too much from my government which is suppose to serve and protect!

23 posted on 09/11/2001 12:35:31 PM PDT by HoustonKevin (...Who had the Intell on this? Some one for sure!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Well, the clinton administration surely sent a signal to terrorists by our forceful response to the embassy bombings, the Cole attack, and of course the Flight 800 attack. I heard Kalstrom on WABC and I wanted to scream.........what happened when we had a chance to stop these ba$tards....we sent a monica bomb to an aspirin factory and bombed an empty cave.
24 posted on 09/11/2001 12:36:00 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I'm not sure who our enemies are. People need to cool down. If we react too quickly, and attack people who turn out not to be connected with the events today, we're going to have lots of problems in the future.
25 posted on 09/11/2001 12:36:36 PM PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: tallhappy
We can bring it out to those who are part of this enemy axis and stop it. That means US military presence and action in the world.

But first you have to say "Thank You" to Senator Frank Church for showing all those unwilling souls how to get to Heaven early. May he rot...

26 posted on 09/11/2001 12:39:01 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: the808bass
It is scary when they want to march in our streets and not take the fight overseas.
27 posted on 09/11/2001 12:40:00 PM PDT by bmwcyle
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I heard a reporter ask Sen. Biden about the remark that this is WAR, and he replied (out of context?) "Oh, I hope not!" If true, what an idiot.
28 posted on 09/11/2001 12:40:37 PM PDT by kaycee
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To: Wyatt's Torch
We say, "You kill 10,000 of ours. We incinerate 10,000,000 of yours."

AGREED.

29 posted on 09/11/2001 12:40:50 PM PDT by Y0K (TakeNoPrisoners@War.com)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
The way to prevent this from happening again is to respond quick, respond deadly, respond with a message.

I envision a large area of the middle east being transformed from sand to glass by the judicious application of copious amounts of heat.

30 posted on 09/11/2001 12:41:58 PM PDT by Hoosier Patriot
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To: BunnySlippers
We DO give up some freedoms for security.

Hasn't done much good, as demonstrated today.

31 posted on 09/11/2001 12:43:18 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: HoustonKevin
Who told you that? We're here to serve and protect THEM.
32 posted on 09/11/2001 12:44:01 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: HoustonKevin
I just can not imagine the US & Israeli not having some kind of intelligence reports on this

Senator Frank Church could, which is why he gutted the CIA back in the 70's. We have practically no human intelligence gathering (no spies) in the field now, just the spies in the skies.

34 posted on 09/11/2001 12:45:36 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: libertarian_usa
We can't nuke them they have our oil. We need to invade, conquor and indefinitely occupy all Arab countries and commandeer their oil resources. Then take care of the terrorists in those countries.


BUMP

35 posted on 09/11/2001 12:45:53 PM PDT by tm22721
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To: KeyLargo
Actually, President Carter was the one most responsible for the destruction of HUMINT capabilities in our intelligence services.

The chickens are now coming home to roost, so to speak!

36 posted on 09/11/2001 12:46:49 PM PDT by rollin
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To: aristeides
I'm not sure who our enemies are. People need to cool down. If we react too quickly, and attack people who turn out not to be connected with the events today, we're going to have lots of problems in the future.

There are lists of our enemies, such as the list of where our troops now deployed in over 100 countries. There is also a list of every country that the United States has bombed since 1941- at least one country each year. I guess we can start with those lists. I think whoever did this, was from one of those places.

37 posted on 09/11/2001 12:48:14 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: the808bass
"Was it scarier than watching 10000 people die?"

I didn't see it live and I am still in disbelief after seeing the video.

39 posted on 09/11/2001 12:50:01 PM PDT by libertarian_usa
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To: tm22721
We can't nuke them they have our oil

Then maybe it's time to break out the neutron bomb.

P.S. It's not "our" oil.

40 posted on 09/11/2001 12:53:39 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
I guess that they can scrap Echelon now! It's proven itself to be totally worthless.
41 posted on 09/11/2001 12:54:24 PM PDT by Highest Authority
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To: tm22721
We can't nuke them they have our oil. We need to invade, conquor and indefinitely occupy all Arab countries and commandeer their oil resources.

Which is it?

42 posted on 09/11/2001 12:54:37 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: libertarian_usa
Hey libertarian...tell us how a libvertarian would solve the problem...

WOuld a libertarian tighten the borders? Tighten security? Or just bitch and complain...

C'mon, give us some of your profound answers. Are libertarians becoming self-destructive??? This is reality...

43 posted on 09/11/2001 12:55:31 PM PDT by Benrand
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Wyatt....I agree....Make them toast.
44 posted on 09/11/2001 12:58:33 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Wyatt....I agree....Make them toast.
45 posted on 09/11/2001 12:59:06 PM PDT by freekitty
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Hey libertarian...tell us how a libvertarian would solve the problem...

Would a libertarian USA have been involved overseas enough to draw this sort of hate from whoever did this? Someone steals to benefit themselves, they murder out of hate.
46 posted on 09/11/2001 12:59:36 PM PDT by sendtoscott
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To: libertarian_usa
Was Al Haig in the room with Cohen. Civil liberties and the rule of law must always be protected if our nation stands for anything at all.
47 posted on 09/11/2001 1:01:47 PM PDT by buckalfa
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To: kaycee
I heard Biden too. He's a dildoe who someone can't seem to understand that we've NEVER EXPERIENCED SUCH A BREACH ON US SOIL.
48 posted on 09/11/2001 1:02:27 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: libertarian_usa
Those who want to sacrifice liberty for security, can move to New York - the safest place on earth if Hitlery and Schumer are to be believed.
49 posted on 09/11/2001 1:03:12 PM PDT by VoodooEconomist
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To: libertarian_usa
Cohen. Clueless then, clueless now.
50 posted on 09/11/2001 1:04:09 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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