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William Cohen just spoke on CNN via telephone and said some scary things
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Posted on 09/11/2001 12:13:20 PM PDT by libertarian_usa

I can roughly quote William Cohen from his live interview on CNN within the last 10 minutes: "We are going to have to make some tough decisions in this country. We are going to have to "garbled" when making choices between security and civil liberties."


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To: libertarian_usa
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51 posted on 09/11/2001 1:05:46 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
A nice tight orbit by a few HC-130 gunships would make me stand up and salute!!!!

We have the firepower... now lets plan it, and most of all, execute it!!!


52 posted on 09/11/2001 1:08:59 PM PDT by BobP
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To: LouD
I want to see a million ragheads die before the sun sets...

I'll see your million and raise you two more.

53 posted on 09/11/2001 1:10:00 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: Paine's Ghost
"Nuke 'em All and let God sort 'em out."

This was my first thought. Totally agree.

54 posted on 09/11/2001 1:10:02 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: The Documentary Lady
6:15 west coast time (LAPD) is 9:15 east coast time. This started at 9:00 eastern time.
55 posted on 09/11/2001 1:11:08 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: BunnySlippers
Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check? We DO give up some freedoms for security.
No, we give up some freedoms for the empty promise of security. If there were true security for what we've given up, that security would have prevented this.

The fact that this happened is proof that we've given up some freedom for absolutely nothing.

56 posted on 09/11/2001 1:11:35 PM PDT by cc2k
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To: libertarian_usa
Chief Bernard Parks of the LAPD said the same thing.
 
Anti-American.
Scary.
Sick.
Evil?.. or
Stupid.

57 posted on 09/11/2001 1:13:50 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: ctdonath2
Hasn't done much good, as demonstrated today.

Which makes me think that you are too young to remember the conditions that existed at that time that precipitated our current security measures. I would say our security has served us well ... and looks like it will have to be tightened. A shame.

58 posted on 09/11/2001 1:14:40 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Wyatt's Torch
DITTO DITTO DITTO
59 posted on 09/11/2001 1:15:47 PM PDT by Goldi-Lox
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To: Southack
You are 100% right. But I'm afraid we'll just bomb a few aspirin factories and empty buildings. The only answer is massive retaliation with maximum deaths--remember Hiroshima ans Nagasaki, that sure pacified Japan!
60 posted on 09/11/2001 1:15:59 PM PDT by pankot
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To: VoodooEconomist
Brokaw just did an apparent prepared spiel about how Free we've been, and very light security internally. Then commented that it will be changing a lot now.
61 posted on 09/11/2001 1:20:09 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: BunnySlippers
But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check? We DO give up some freedoms for security. After today, you think you have security?

No, Bunny, you've just given up your freedoms and have not one iota more of meaningful security. You've traded liberty for the illusion of security.
62 posted on 09/11/2001 1:22:12 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Paine's Ghost
Mega Ditto's to your above #6!

We said the same in the USN.

It's time to turn some sand to glass.

Best FReegards.

63 posted on 09/11/2001 1:22:51 PM PDT by Mustang
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To: ET(end tyranny)
BETCHA these terrorists came in thru MEXICO, posing as Mexicans...

Yeah. We really want those open borders...NOT!!!

64 posted on 09/11/2001 1:24:08 PM PDT by Goldi-Lox
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To: East Bay Patriot
I agree with you East Bay. Your on the mark here. Nothing less will do. Lynn
65 posted on 09/11/2001 1:24:56 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage
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To: patriciaruth
I believe they've been pushing for powers to increase their ability to spy on we the people. At least under clinton.
66 posted on 09/11/2001 1:25:22 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Paine's Ghost
"Nuke 'em All and let God sort 'em out.

That's not funny...

But it's funny!

67 posted on 09/11/2001 1:28:13 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: George W. Bush
Barbra Olsen just confirmed as being on the plane that was crashed into the Pentagon. She called her husband, Ted, before the crash on a cell phone. The passengers had been herded to the back of the plane. What a horrible day for them. How strange and unimaginable a tragedy for the Olsens. And the same for everyone else. We all prepare mentally for heart attacks or car wrecks. But no one ever really thought of dying this way in America before.
68 posted on 09/11/2001 1:29:25 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: karth & wyatt's torch
Just what we need, radioactive oil for the next 100yrs, radioactive dust cloud floating east to west all the way to US, and millions of innocent people dead. You guys are great.
69 posted on 09/11/2001 1:29:35 PM PDT by stuartcr
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To: libertarian_usa
In other words, we (the peons) must give up our freedoms to be secure!!

If we do, we deserve the chains that most assuredly will be placed on our ankles and wrists....thanks, RINO Cohen....I'll take the words of the Founding Fathers over Comrades like yourself.

70 posted on 09/11/2001 1:30:16 PM PDT by Rowdee
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To: tallhappy
I am glad Cohen and his crew are no longer in power. We know what he would choose

I guess it seems obvious to me that he's referring to massive gun control efforts.

"Sure let's just go belly up for these creeps, why don't we?"

/sarcasm

71 posted on 09/11/2001 1:31:40 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: libertarian_usa,CCWoody,the_doc,Jerry_M
Hide your guns guys!
72 posted on 09/11/2001 1:33:04 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: bmwcyle
It is scary when they want to march in our streets and not take the fight overseas.

Is it "scary" to have your luggage searched at the airport? Is it "scary" to have some safety precautions in place?

73 posted on 09/11/2001 1:34:31 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: Wyatt's Torch
"Sorry William. That's not the 'tough choice'. The choice is whether to nuke Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, and Libya off the face of the planet to ensure that this never happens again. We say, "You kill 10,000 of ours. We incinerate 10,000,000 of yours." Sorry if this sounds like a 'war-monger' but we need to have an overwhelming response."

I'm afraid, and sickened you're absolutly correct.

Those countries, every damned one of 'em as you listed, were all or in part responsible for what has happened today.
NO one will ever convince me otherwise.

It's now become a full-scale war; we've taken our hit & now it's time they're given their doese of reality.

74 posted on 09/11/2001 1:35:46 PM PDT by Landru
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To: libertarian_usa
I don't want to hear anything from anyone that worked for clinton. Cohen is scary!
76 posted on 09/11/2001 1:43:45 PM PDT by sam I am
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To: libertarian_usa
Why in #e!! is this guy pulling his foreskin back and speaking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE and others are partially responsible for their lack of retribution during the Klintoon administration.

Yea Billy, lets blow up another asprin factory and then take away more liberties from the American people!

Cohen, go back to your hole and stay there!

77 posted on 09/11/2001 1:48:10 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: stuartcr
In war, there are no innocent victims.

"Let nobody think that Americans are incapable of facing this foe and defeating him. Let nobody think that this country is any less able to face the naked days" than she was in 1861, in 1917, in 1941 and 1950. We shall rise to this. We shall take our revenge. We shall absorb these blows, and strike back a hundred times harder. Let America's enemies crow today: Tomorrow they will tremble, and weep."

- John Derbyshire

78 posted on 09/11/2001 1:48:31 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Landru
Those countries, every damned one of 'em as you listed, were all or in part responsible

You know, I have to agree... and I don't feel too sorry for the women and children either (well maybe the children, as they are probably just doing what they're told is right), after seeing them dancing in the streets. Those old ladies and young kids thumbing their noses at the deaths of tens of thousands of American Citizens who were just going about their business.

79 posted on 09/11/2001 1:49:00 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Wyatt's Torch
I'm with you, regarding the indiscrimminate nuclear bombing of all Muslim-led governments.

And, you forgot Algeria and Libya, too.

F*ck them all! Send them to Allah!

81 posted on 09/11/2001 1:51:55 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: RnMomof7
"Hide your guns guys."

Not me. If it's time to hide them, then it's time to use them.

82 posted on 09/11/2001 1:53:08 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: stuartcr
We don't have to make it radioactive (wink-wink)
83 posted on 09/11/2001 1:54:23 PM PDT by oyez
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To: aristeides
I'm not sure who our enemies are

Very astute remark. Allies and enemies are cleverly confused by those pulling the strings. Intelligent minds should ask: "Who has the most to gain from this?"

85 posted on 09/11/2001 1:57:19 PM PDT by Merovingian
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Not true. In war, most victims are innocent.
86 posted on 09/11/2001 1:57:51 PM PDT by stuartcr
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To: BunnySlippers
Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check?

Absolutely I would, and with more assurance of safety than I would compared to boarding a jet after going through a metal detector.

Why? Because I'd be armed when I flew if there were no "security" checks, and most likely so would several other honest citizens on the same plane. And anyone who tried to hijack the plane would find their heads blown off the moment their attention wandered far enough for me to get the element of surprise.

Currently, however, I'm unarmed when I fly and I'd be helpless, at the "mercy" of my captors, if the plane were hijacked.

Getting a clue yet? Nah, I doubt it...

We DO give up some freedoms for security.

No we don't. We give up freedoms for the promise of a security that doesn't exist.

87 posted on 09/11/2001 1:58:15 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: BunnySlippers
Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check?

Absolutely I would, and with more assurance of safety than I would compared to boarding a jet after going through a metal detector.

Why? Because I'd be armed when I flew if there were no "security" checks, and most likely so would several other honest citizens on the same plane. And anyone who tried to hijack the plane would find their heads blown off the moment their attention wandered far enough for me to get the element of surprise.

Currently, however, I'm unarmed when I fly and I'd be helpless, at the "mercy" of my captors, if the plane were hijacked.

Getting a clue yet? Nah, I doubt it...

We DO give up some freedoms for security.

No we don't. We give up freedoms for the promise of a security that doesn't exist.

88 posted on 09/11/2001 1:58:31 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: Benrand
What's the libertarian response? Shoot the bastards between the eyes.

More sensibly, one can look to the Constitution for a proper response to terrorism
Congress shall have power to [...]grant letters of marque and reprisal,... Article 1, Section 8, United States Constitution

In other words, mobilize the bounty hunters or declare war.

90 posted on 09/11/2001 1:59:32 PM PDT by no-s
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To: East Bay Patriot
Bump to that EBP! Enough of this "measured response" crap. If we don't strike and strike hard, viciously and with everything we have, we will see these attacks on the US increase in the future.

The only thing the human animal understands is brute force. I say we apply it, brutally. Time to split some atoms.

91 posted on 09/11/2001 2:00:33 PM PDT by AK2KX
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To: NAMMARINE
The great majority of Quran-quoting Muslims aren't any more radical than the great majority of Bible-quoting Christians. They are just regular people that want to get on with life. Get up, go to work, come home, eat dinner, play with the kids. Just like you and me. They have less power over their radical leaders than we do. How many times has congress done what you wanted them to do? It's not the ordinary civilian that has to watch the tomahawks and scuds blowing up their homes that's responsible for this. It's the FEW in power. I'm sure a lot of VC wanted to nuke your home state, even though it wasn't your idea to fight in VietNam.
92 posted on 09/11/2001 2:06:36 PM PDT by stuartcr
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To: DCPatriot
I'm with you, regarding the indiscrimminate nuclear bombing of all Muslim-led governments. And, you forgot Algeria and Libya, too. F*ck them all! Send them to Allah!

AGREED...Don't forget the words of Patton - you don't win by dying for your country, you win by making the other bastards die for their country.

93 posted on 09/11/2001 2:06:52 PM PDT by Mopp4
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To: NAMMARINE
The great majority of Quran-quoting Muslims aren't any more radical than the great majority of Bible-quoting Christians. They are just regular people that want to get on with life. Get up, go to work, come home, eat dinner, play with the kids. Just like you and me. They have less power over their radical leaders than we do. How many times has congress done what you wanted them to do? It's not the ordinary civilian that has to watch the tomahawks and scuds blowing up their homes that's responsible for this. It's the FEW in power. I'm sure a lot of VC wanted to nuke your home state, even though it wasn't your idea to fight in VietNam.
94 posted on 09/11/2001 2:08:06 PM PDT by stuartcr
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To: AK2KX
William Cohen should remember who his boss was...the same arse who allowed our national security to go to hell. BTW did you all get dear Heil clinton's comment that we shouldn't second guess Pres. Bush? What is there to second guess billybub...it was your weakness for the past 8 yrs that allowed terrorism to continue, to allow our security to become weaker, and to be glad to be rid of you. I'd rather be under Pres. Bush's, VP Cheney's leadership than your lack of leadership at this time.
95 posted on 09/11/2001 2:08:54 PM PDT by nancetc
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To: RnMomof7
Hide your guns guys! Buy a gun if you don't have one. Glock is nice.
96 posted on 09/11/2001 2:10:20 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: BunnySlippers
Well, consider this: When I was growning up, you could get on a plane as a passenger without having luggage or your personal things checked ... But today, would you even get on a plane that did not check? We DO give up some freedoms for security.

You don't have to fly. You know they don't check 'checked' luggage - except on some international flights. Anyone who wanted to put a bomb on a domestic flight could do it easily with nearly no risk of detection.

-bc

97 posted on 09/11/2001 2:12:13 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: Benrand
Hey libertarian...tell us how a libvertarian would solve the problem... WOuld a libertarian tighten the borders? Tighten security? Or just bitch and complain...

Ah, I see that Democrats aren't the only a$$holes who just can't wait to twist this enormous tragedy into a disgusting excuse to score cheap political shots...

This tragedy has nothing to do with Libertarianism, and your bizarre ability to turn it into some sort of springboard for bashing libertarianism only shows a sick obsession on your part. There are far more important things to be discussed now, so I won't even bother to answer your inappropriate and ill-timed questions, even though there are good answers to them.

You disgust me. Go join the Democrats, you'd be right at home there.

98 posted on 09/11/2001 2:14:50 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: Benrand
Hey libertarian...tell us how a libvertarian would solve the problem... WOuld a libertarian tighten the borders? Tighten security? Or just bitch and complain...

Ah, I see that Democrats aren't the only a$$holes who just can't wait to twist this enormous tragedy into a disgusting excuse to score cheap political shots...

This tragedy has nothing to do with Libertarianism, and your bizarre ability to turn it into some sort of springboard for bashing libertarianism only shows a sick obsession on your part. There are far more important things to be discussed now, so I won't even bother to answer your inappropriate and ill-timed questions, even though there are good answers to them.

You disgust me. Go join the Democrats, you'd be right at home there.

99 posted on 09/11/2001 2:15:01 PM PDT by Dan Day
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