WWGD? (What Would Gramsci Do?)

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[cicero's_son]

Thank you!

I knew they existed; I lack the HTML skills to retrieve them.

God bless you, cicero's_son

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

One of the Links has been damaged apparently but this seems to be the same document:

The Gramscian Roots of America's Culture War Thread 2 (Is Gramsci the Father of Neo-Conservatism ?)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I think there are more, these are just the ones I had bookmarked so I could do more serious reading on the topic!

[Coyote]

The Radical Moslems understand Gramsci better than we do. They simply KILL anyone trying to bring multiculturalism into their society. But I suspect that the 'best and brightest' in our own little frat clique may have woken up to that old defense as well. I posted my thoughts regarding this on another thread, but it's filling up. So I re-post it here for your amusement.

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It's very interesting to me, that MOST of the media circles who typically busy themselves badmouthing the US have either fallen mute, or have jumped on the patriotic bandwagon.

But it's also interesting that a number of establishment insiders worked in the WTC, and most of the rest (not all, but an overwhelming majority), from Congress to the Knee Jerk Times, have suddenly switched their rhetoric. The CFR clique is no longer busy patting each other on the back down at the Pratt House for their multicultural and socially degenerative successes at destroying US sovereignty in favor of their vision of the NWO, but instead, each one of them, acting as if THEY could either have been, or will be, on the hit list. Humble weeping and gnashing of teeth, giving way to anger.

They need us again now to do their dirty work on the battlefield and in the factory. This WTC event could have set back the past 50 years of their work by as much as 10-20 years, depending on just how complicated this global, multicultural, WWIII turns out to be. They're pissed, but IMHO, I think they're humbled. I suspect they're just beginning to realize they may have miscalculated the damage their cultural/US destruction has done to their own power base. I'm laughin' at them though, because although I don't write for Foreign Affairs, I've been telling them so for the past 10 years myself! So now I can honestly say, even if with a sadden sobriety, "I told 'ya so." And I am. The best and the brightest, my eye.

But to a certain degree, I think they know it already. At least they've been acting that way. Accordingly, I'm looking for them to hunker down to promoting a patriotic WWII mentality for the next several years. Otherwise, they may loose this fight, and I suspect they know it. Their setback is perhaps much more profound than even they realize yet. Because kids on MTV are praying with a new voice, having witnesses 5300 dead right in their own back yard and people jumping 1000 feet to their deaths rather than burn alive, and this patriotism has been etched in their minds with fire. This potentially puts back the NWO "One World, One Music" propaganda campaign by as much as a full generation. Instead of Rap music from black Islamic groups calling for the destruction of Western Civilization by blowing up the trade towers, the kids were witness to fat, freightented, middle aged Congressmen funbling with trembling hands over hymn books they haven't held since they were five years old, mouthing the mostly forgotten words of the Battle Hymn of the Republic, pausing only to discretely wipe genuine tears from their eyes. THAT'S gotta be an image stuck in the minds of everyone living in America today. Make sense?

My suspicion is that the anti-Western, specifically the anti-American rhetoric, will be discouraged in their media organs for several years or more. At least until they get this problem cleaned up, which could wind up indefinite. Probably not, but I'm no prophet. It does appear that they've miscaluated. The only other logical alternateves imply that either they KNEW, or were INVOLVED. And I'm not yet THAT cynical. So it seems they've painted themselves into a corner, IMHO. These current bad mouthing dialectical materialists among the media that were busy this past week just haven't got the message yet. It IS rather early. The message is we're going to have to fight a viscious enemy who doesn't care about materialsim, so the dialectic breaks down. This enemy is motivated by 'spiritual propaganda', as it were, and is suicidally adamant about their fight. To manage such an opponent, you MUST have an overpowering and uniting cultural ideology yourself. And interestingly, it appears that the elites suddenly remembered that we actually HAVE one!

Given that, I look for the multicultural crowd to be stuck on the back pages of the newspapers until this is over, however long it takes.

And I, especially if I'm correct, will be poking fun at these back-page, socially destructive, Gramscian Marxists, as they're relegated to bottom-shelf status for a while, a phenomenon they haven't suffered for 50 monopolizing, arrogant years. For the most refreshing moment, I am able to openly call them by the name that most aptly describes them, and not only will I get little opposition, but powerful patriotic support as well.

TRAITORS!

Ha, ha! And of course my favorite layman's anti-Gramsci propaganda spam was Original Sin.

[Coyote]

Thunk for post above. An update from the occupied regions.

[cicero's_son]

Wonderful post! I enjoyed it very much.

One of the interesting things about this past week to me is that for the first time in a good many years the siren song of the Left has fallen silent.

You know the song I am talking about: that sweet, hypnotic music that tells us we are wrong, we can surrender, human nature is malleable and perfectable, the days of the nation state are waning, all values are relative, etc. etc. etc. It's gone. And I am looking around and seeing my fellow Americans even here in in the Caput Mundi of the Blue Zone shaking off the torpor and confusion.

It's as if a spell has been broken. Until this is over, at least, the voice of Common Sense and of the Great Tradition is once again dominant. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think that has been the case for at least 40 years.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Those are very encouraging thoughts!!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

ping!

[cicero's_son]

You're another one i'd love to hear from. Any thoughts?

[willyboyishere]

Yeah, they're hostile to porn, but they have harems,they're polygamists and playboys ,etc., and our sensibilities offend THEM!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

ping!

[poet]

Wouldn't the gramsci moles have to go underground because as soon as his cohorts started talking subjects other than what the radicals preach, they would be killed, No? Would it work in a society that was not free? The only way it could work is thru the educational system over a period of generations.

[cicero's_son]

Not all Islam is radical Islam.

Sufism (Islamic mysticism) may be a key. Wherever there are cracks, that's where our footholds will be.

[Coyote]

Well, we can all help it along. Get your national flags and put them up. Put them on your cars. Give them to your kids to take to school. If you are of a faith, let people know. Try to tie it in with the survival of not only the nation, but our neighborhoods. And anyone you meet who objects, play dumb, and just ask them with astonishment which side they're on. Just shake your head and give them a flag, or pass one to the next person nearby in order to throw a little shame on the objector in the eyes of everyone watching. DON'T get angry or argue with them. Just look at them like they just said they're going to kill your dog, and shake your head.

That's the technique they used to move the Gramscian theme onto us. Shame everyone who didn't agree as a 'racist', a 'capitalist', a 'chauvanist', a 'nazi'. Just imply that you humbly can't understand why they would want to aid the terrorist mentality by not supporting the patriotic movement while that movement lasts. Or why they would hate the American culture that they call their home. They'll no doubt insist you're a dumb southern redneck cretin, but just give a flag to the next nearest person, who'll then look back at your opponent with a jaundiced eye. Shame works wonders. It's the Gramscian way. And I mean this all figuratively. Be creative.

The point is that the more this patriotic national awareness spreads, the more we can appeal to the core values of our Constitutional and cultural heritage during this window of support from the progaganda organs of the central ministry themselves. I suspect that they realize they need this solidarity to fight this incredibly entrenched, incredibly ideological enemy. Piggy back on this moment for all you're worth. They can't afford to risk fragmenting the system now, so as they say in Hollywood, "use it".

[Coyote]

Check THIS out if you want to see what I mean about the boys [and apparently girls] at the top of the pile grabbing all over themselves in double take. Is it really just bush transforming their hardened Marxist hearts, or are they getting thier marching orders from their overloards? I vote for the latter.

[Rudder]

Makes a good case that we should do as Gramsci would have done. Can't hurt...

[Romulus]

I wish I could be as high-hearted as you about the prospects for a Gramscian setback. IMO, for capturing political agendas and channeling and accelerating social change, nothing works better than war.

Consider this, from the English Catholic novelist Evelyn Waugh:

"It is too simple to say that only the Nazis wanted war. These communists wanted it too. It was the only way in which they could come to power. Many of my people wanted it, to be revenged on the Germans, to hasten the creation of the national state. It seems there was a will to war a death wish, everywhere. Even good men thought that their private honour would be satisfied by war. They could assert their manhood by killing and being killed. They would accept hardship in recompense for having been selfish and lazy. Danger justified privilege."

[Coyote]

I wish I could be as high-hearted as you about the prospects for a Gramscian setback. IMO, for capturing political agendas and channeling and accelerating social change, nothing works better than war.

Well, the point I was trying to make is that it's too late to do a damn thing about it. We're in it, and if we don't win, we all die. At least they want us to believe that, and they may well be right, beyond the cynicism. I honestly believe this was a surprise for all but the core insiders. The average CFR member seems to still be in shock.

As far as the Gramcian's, they're still busy mouthing off, but as I pointed out in my longer post above, this time it's them that's being shouted down, not only by people like us, but by the power elite that supported them for so long. I'm convinced the elites are deeply concerned about this situation, regardless of who is actually behind it. They can't afford fragmentation. Week before last they couldn't wait to bring down all vestiges of national borders, pretending the sovereign nation-state was dead. Now the borders are sealed completely, and even political organs like the media are nudging for the Gramscians to shut the f*ck up, EVEN on MTV!

My point is that if the elites are telling them to cool it, they're going to have to cool it. Meanwhile, among all the bad news, the good news is that it's open season on Gramscian propagandists. While that window is open, and given we know what they've done, what they stand for, and even if we loose in the final analysis, wouldn't we be remiss if we didn't harass them with all we've got?

Whether this war is a product of neglect or duplicity is not really relevant to our ideological survival. Young men will probably soon die everwhere, which will galvanize the national theme, and that alone will not be a particularly good thing for the globalists. I'm convinced it's a setback. The purpose they had in allowing and supporting the culturally divisive Gramscians was to weaken our national resolve, in order to move the world toward a global hegemony. But now the elites need nationalism again, and unity, and a solid cultural ideal if they expect to defeat a billion religious ideologs willing to die to take out anyone who they perceive as an enemy of their notion of culture. The Gramscians are divisive. So the elites themselves are shouting them down.

After this war, there will be a new thrust and a new UN or something like that. Why not join in. It's the first time in my life I can do it and not only do I not get opposition from the globalist elite crew, but support! I'm not completely naieve about the long term. All I'm saying is that this past week has been better for Gramci baggers than any in the past 50 years. So the cup's half full, and I'm naturally a pessimist.

My suggestion is to look for them in any way that suits your disposition, skill, and personal situation. Hunt them down, and kill them on the spot (figureatively, of course!).

[cicero's_son]

Interesting. I, too, am encouraged by what I have seen this week. Here in New York, as I said, the peaceniks are still out in force. Go to Union Square and you will feel like you've been transported back to an anti-Vietnam commune in the 1960s. But I'm not particularly worried about it. I see everyday citizens pulling pens out of their pockets and scribbling responses to the more ludicrous pieces of propaganda. People are shouting down the Scientologists, and openly praying.

In terms of the elites, well that remains to be seen. Cardinal Egan made a big to-do yesterday out of the fact that "over 250 representatives from the UN" had turned out for the Supplication Mass in St. Patricks. 250!?! The place only seats 2200! More than 10% of the attendants were from the UN.

I think many elites will only be hardened in their globalism. They will say that this shows the need for true unity: political, economic, and military. Others will see that "we aren't ready" for their brand of transnationalism and pull back, biding their time. A few just might be turned to our cause, though I wouldn't expect it to be many.