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Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE
Accuracy in Media ^ | September 24, 2001 | Cliff Kincaid - Reed Irvine

Posted on 09/29/2001 1:10:15 PM PDT by majordivit

CATASTROPHIC INTELLIGENCE FAILURE

In 1995, the CIA and the FBI learned that Osama bin Laden was planning to hijack U.S. airliners and use them as bombs to attack important targets in the U.S. This scheme was called Project Bojinka. It was discovered in the Philippines, where authorities arrested two of bin Laden's agents, Ramzi Yousef and Abdul Hakim Murad. They were involved in planting a bomb on a Philippine airliner. Project Bojinka, which Philip-pine authorities found outlined on Abdul Murad's laptop, called for planting bombs on eleven U.S. airliners and hijacking others and crashing them into targets like the CIA building.

The hijacking part of the plan got less attention than the planting of bombs. It required aviators like Japan's kamikaze pilots who were willing to commit suicide. Bin Laden had no such pilots in 1995, but he set out to train young fanatics willing to die for him to fly airliners. Abdul Murad, whose laptop had revealed the plan, admitted that he was being trained for a suicide mission. Bin Laden began training pilots in Afghanistan with the help of an Afghan pilot and a Pakistani general.

Project Bojinka was known to the CIA and the FBI. It was described in court documents in the trial in New York of Ramzi Yousef and Abdul Murad for their participation in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993. Since the CIA had been mentioned as one of the targets in Project Bojinka, it should have had an especially strong interest in any evidence that bin Laden was preparing to carry it out. The most obvious indicator, and one that should have been watched most carefully, was the recruitment of young, dedicated followers to learn to fly American airliners. That would require keeping a close watch on flight schools where that training is given.

Foreigners, including many from the Middle East, flock to flight schools in the U.S. Visas are given almost automatically to those who apply to these schools. It is especially easy for those with Saudi Arabian passports. At Huffman Aviation International in Venice, Florida, about 70 percent of the students are foreigners. That is one of the schools where Mohammed Atta, 33, who steered American Airlines flight 11 into the north WTC tower, and Marwan Yousef Alshehhi, who flew United Airlines flight 175 into the south tower were trained. Both had back-grounds that would have sounded an alarm had the CIA checked them.

A Huffman Aviation employee says that if the FBI had informed them that bin Laden had a plan to hijack our airliners and crash them into important buildings and had asked them to report any suspicious students, they would have cooperated. It was news to him that the FBI and CIA knew about this plan. It has been reported that a student who was training on a flight simulator at a Minnesota school wasn't interested in learning how to land a plane. If true, that would surely have been reported if the school had been contacted by the FBI.

Osama bin Laden apparently knew better than the FBI how lax our government was about checking out students who come here for flight training. He took full advantage of it. Now that we have paid a horrendous price for this intelligence failure, the FBI and the CIA are scurrying to learn more about young men from countries where bin Laden's Al Qaeda has support who have taken flight training in recent years. The Washington Post reports that at least 44 of those the FBI wants to question are pilots. As of Sept. 20, we had seen no reports in the papers that had identified more than three of the 19 dead hijackers as pilots. That means that bin Laden still has an ample supply of manpower to continue Project Bojinka. Louis Freeh bears a lot of the blame for this, but he has already resigned. George Tenet, who heads the CIA, should resign or be fired.

BIN LADEN GATE By Cliff Kincaid

Several Clinton administration top officials appeared on television to express their surprise and anger over the terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon by agents of Osama bin Laden. But just two years ago, they were accepting help from bin Laden in NATO's war on Yugoslavia. They were assisting the Kosovo Liberation Army which bin Laden was assisting with fighters trained in his camps in Afghanistan.

A story by Jerry Seper in the Washington Times on May 4, 1999, reported, "Some members of the Kosovo Liberation Army, which has financed its war effort through the sale of heroin, were trained in terrorist camps run by international fugitive Osama bin Laden—who is wanted in the 1998 bombing of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 224 persons, including 12 Americans." Seper said that newly obtained intelligence reports showed that the KLA had enlisted Islamic terrorists in its conflict with Serbia and that bin Laden's organization, known as al-Qaeda, had both trained and financially supported the KLA, which had been labeled a terrorist group by a Clinton State Department official.

Despite that, General Wesley Clark, who was NATO's supreme commander during the war in Kosovo, said in a September 14th column in the Washington Post that the U.S. must use decisive force against international terrorism. He had worked closely with the KLA during the war, implementing a Clinton policy that ignored more serious human rights problems in other parts of the world. The Clinton administration, for example, remained largely indifferent to the persecution of Christians in Sudan, where an Islamic regime has killed almost 2 million people and was, for a time, Osama bin Laden's home.

The CIA Connection

Bin Laden, a Saudi by birth, was supported by the CIA when he was battling the Soviet occupiers of Afghanistan during the 1980s. A former U.S. Army sergeant, Egyptian-born Ali Mohamed, told a New York court that after he had left the army in 1989, he had helped train members of bin Laden's terrorist organization, al Qaeda. Last year, he admitted his involvement in the bombing of the embassies in Africa ordered by bin Laden.

Dollars for Terror, a book by Swiss television journalist Richard Labeviere, claims that Mohamed trained Islamic militants in several camps in the New York area and suggests that he was an active U.S. agent. Labeviere, who conducted a four-year investigation and has written extensively on Arab and African affairs, has concluded that the international Islamic networks linked to bin Laden have been nurtured and encouraged by elements of the U.S. intelligence community, especially during the Clinton years. He says the international Islamic network was protected because it was designed to serve U.S. foreign policy and military interests.

Labeviere claims that the CIA blocked the FBI from cracking down on these terrorist networks. "Bin-Ladengate is unfolding, and there is no escape," he says. "If it blows up one day, this scandal will reveal exactly how the various American intelligence agencies were involved in the process that led to the Nairobi [Kenya] and Dar es Salaam [Tanzania] bombings." Labeviere claims that Clinton and his top aides did not anticipate that this radical Islamic network would turn against the United States. But even when it did, they figured the U.S. would gain more from it in the long run.

Labeviere argues that the Clinton administration viewed the bin Laden network and the radical Taliban regime in Afghan-istan as a bulwark against Russian, Iranian and even Chinese influence in Asia. He quotes a former CIA analyst as saying, "The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia." It was believed that Sunni Islam could be used to undermine Russia in Chechnya and China in southern Xingjiang.

It was also present in all the Muslim republics of the former Soviet Union. Labeviere says, "with the active support of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and other oil monarchies and with the benevolence of the American [intelligence] services engaged in these areas, we can expect a ‘Talibanization' of Central Asia, particularly in Chechnya." Labeviere says that between 1994 and 1997, "Bill Clinton was happy to allow Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to support the Taliban, seeing them as a useful counterbalance to Iran's influence…" [Iran's Muslims are Shiites].

On January 13, 2000, a Los Angeles Times article headlined, "Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target," quoted Labeviere as saying, "For America, the bill is now coming due." The bill for "Bin Ladengate" was paid in blood on September 11, 2001. Labeviere's book has received favorable reviews in Europe. But it has been ignored by the U.S. press except for the Los Angeles Times.

The Labeviere analysis, as shocking as it appears, could also explain why the perpetrators of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon operated freely in the U.S., without interference from law enforcement or intelligence agencies. Three weeks before the attacks, the CIA and FBI reportedly knew that two of the hijackers, including one with a link to the bombing of the U.S. destroyer Cole last October, were in the U.S. But they were not apprehended.

This shocked the Washington Post. It said, "The scattered details that have emerged about the plot put this failure in stark relief: More than 50 people were likely involved, Justice Department officials have said, and the plot required extensive communications and planning to pull off. The group's size — not to mention the complexity of its endeavor — should have offered many opportunities for intelligence infiltration. Yet the conspirators proceeded unmolested. What is striking is how safe these people apparently felt, how unthreatened by law enforcement. Some of the terrorists were here for long periods. They left and entered the country unimpeded. Some were reportedly on the so-called ‘watch list,' a government catalogue of people who ostensibly are not permitted to enter the country. Yet this apparently caused them no problems."

Friends in High Places

Labeviere claims that Saudi Arabia is bankrolling bin Laden's networks as a way to further its own brand of Sunni Islam. This runs counter to the story that bin Laden, whose family runs the largest construction firm in Saudi Arabia, is a disowned renegade. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates are the only countries that recognize the Taliban regime. On Octo-ber 29, 1999, Jack Kelley reported in USA Today that "prominent businessmen in Saudi Arabia continue to transfer tens of million of dollars to bank accounts linked to Osama Bin Laden." Citing senior U.S. intelligence officials and a Saudi government document, Kelley said the money transfers had begun five years earlier. Kelley said one of the businessmen under investigation, Mohammad Hussein al-Amoudi, runs the largest bank in Saudi Arabia, as well as the Capitol Trust Bank in New York. Vernon Jordan, one of Bill Clinton's close friends, is his lawyer.

In August 1998, the situation seemed to change when bin Laden was blamed for the destruction of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He was placed on the FBI's Most Wanted List and a reward was offered for his capture. But Labeviere says the State Department never exerted any real pressure on the Taliban to apprehend him. The U.S. attacks on Afghanistan and Sudan as retaliation for the embassy bombings diverted attention from the Lewinsky scandal. At first, some senators questioned the timing of the attacks, and there was talk of a "Wag-the-Dog" scenario. By creating the appearance that he was acting presidential and rallying support under the banner "America Strikes Back," Clinton weathered the storm. The A.P. subsequently reported that the Clinton administration had "specific intelligence"about bin Laden's whereabouts but had decided not to try to capture or kill him.

Peter M. Leitner, a senior strategic trade adviser at the Defense Department, said, "The real issue in this tragedy is how were these people able to plan and coordinate such a strike over a period of months without the NSA intercepting their signals?" Leitner, who reviews commercial license applications for exports of sophisticated military-related technology, said, "The technology that would allow these terrorists to mask their communications was given away, hand over fist, by the Clinton administration." In an interview with Paul Sperry of WorldNetDaily, Leitner said the previous administration ap-proved the shipment of high-tech military-related telecommunications equipment to Syria. "They provide infrastructure to bastards like bin Laden," he said. "They provide backup and support and communications abilities to these terrorist cells." Leitner is now having the same problem with the Bush administration.

Damage Control

President Bush has fingered bin Laden as a prime suspect but also says countries which harbor terrorists will be held accountable. The Clinton administration identified seven state sponsors of terrorism—Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Cuba, North Korea, and Sudan—but bin Laden is reported to have thousands of followers and terrorist cells in 50-60 countries, including the U.S. The Washington Post published a long article about bin Laden's worldwide activities, noting his presence in places like NATO- and U.N.-occupied Bosnia and Kosovo, but failed to explain how this occurred under the watchful eye of the Clinton administration.

Bob Woodward of the Post co-authored a September 14 front-page article insisting that the CIA has been authorized since 1998 to use covert means to disrupt bin Laden's operations under a presidential directive signed by Clinton. This article had the earmarks of a damage control operation on the part of the U.S. officials who worked with bin Laden's followers in the Balkans and now realize that their efforts have backfired. CBS News correspondent Lesley Stahl aired a similar report on September 16, adding the tantalizing tidbit that Clinton may have authorized bin Laden's apprehension or assassination. Virtually admitting she had been leaked this information by former Clinton officials, Stahl said "there are people in Washington who want the American people to know they have not been asleep at the wheel in the war on terrorism and, even though there may have been some failures, they have been trying."

The Clinton administration's soft-on-terrorism policy actually began when it blamed the 1993 World Trade Center bombing on individual terrorists, not on any state. Evidence to the contrary has been assembled in the important book, Study of Revenge, by Laurie Mylroie, that the mastermind, Ramzi Yousef, was in fact an Iraqi agent. The book was published by American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Press at a time when Vice President Dick Cheney was vice-chairman of the AEI board of trustees.

James Woolsey, who served as a CIA director under Clinton, has also become an advocate of the view that Iraq was behind the first World Trade Center bombing. Woolsey notes that James Fox, the FBI's chief investigator into the 1993 bombing until his replacement in 1994, believed in the Iraqi connection. "And indeed," Woolsey adds, "ever since Fox's ouster, federal prosecutors and the White House have hewed to the line that most terrorist attacks on the United States are either the products of ‘loose networks' of folks who just somehow come together or are masterminded by the mysterious and unaccountable bin Laden. Explicit state sponsorship, especially by Iraq, has not been on the agenda."

Woolsey says intelligence and law enforcement officials would be well-advised to consider the possibility that the recent attacks, "whether perpetrated by bin Laden and his associates or by others—were sponsored, supported, and perhaps even ordered by Saddam Hussein." However, on NBC's Meet the Press on September 16, just five days after the new attacks when investigations were still presumably underway, Cheney seemed to arbitrarily rule out an Iraqi role.

Officially, the Clinton administration opposed terrorism and funded reports on the problem. A so-called National Commission on Terrorism, a bipartisan group headed by Paul Bremer of Kissinger Associates, released its report on June 5, 2000. The commission wanted more taxpayer dollars spent on fighting terrorism, and it said that the CIA and the FBI needed more power. Some of the media argued that giving the government more power would provoke the opposition of civil libertarians.

But the real story was why the commission failed to subject the Clinton administration's policy on terrorism to serious scrutiny. The commission was mildly critical of the administration's handling of Iran and Libya, but it failed to explain the adoption of a policy of appeasement of Libya in the 1988 Pan Am 103 bombing that killed 270 people, including 189 Americans. The Bremer report simply suggested that "prosecuting and punishing low- level operatives for an act almost certainly directed by Gadhafi is a hollow victory, particularly if the trial results in his implicit exoneration."

Documents showed that the Clinton administration and U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, in preparation for a trial of the two Libyans in the case, made a deal that let Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi off the hook for his role in the mass murder. In the documents outlining the deal, which included handing over the two defendants, Gadhafi received a get-out-of-jail-free card through a promise that the trial would not "undermine" the Libyan regime. This was widely viewed as a guarantee not to charge Gadhafi or his top aides in the terrorist incident. The documents had been kept secret for more than a year because the State Department had classified them. Gadhafi, of course, had them all along. He confirmed the existence of the deal in an interview with British Sky TV. The trial before a Scottish judge resulted in the conviction of a Libyan intelligence official.

The commission didn't explain why the Clinton administration failed to pursue a foreign connection to the Oklahoma City bombing. Convicted bomber Terry Nichols had connections to the Philippines, where Muslim terrorists are very active. Middle East analyst Laurie Mylroie believes the government of Iraq was behind the Oklahoma City bombing, as well as the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993. Stephen Jones, lawyer for the other convicted bomber, Timothy McVeigh, also believes Iraq was ultimately behind the plot.

The Attack on the USS Cole

The establishment media helped the Clinton administration put on a good face in the aftermath of the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000. 60 Minutes aired an interview with Clinton's "terrorism czar" Richard Clarke, who was responsible for counter-terrorism at the National Security Council. He told Lesley Stahl that the U.S. was trying to determine who staged that attack, and suggested it may have been committed by Osama bin Laden. He also warned that terrorists have infiltrated the U.S. and that it was just a matter of time before American territory was the site of a nuclear, biological or chemical attack. If this was true, it was because Clinton had allowed such a situation to develop. But that's not the conclusion Stahl came to. Bin Laden took credit for the attack on the Cole but no retribution was ever exacted for that. Mylroie says Iraq probably assisted in this attack.

The Clinton administration's handling of the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia became a subject of some controversy in the media. Bin Laden was suspected of bankrolling this terrorist incident, which left 19 American servicemen dead and scores injured, and which was reportedly carried out with Iranian government support. The evidence connecting Iran to the plot was the subject of a report by John McWethy of ABC World News Tonight, who cited overwhelming evidence of Iranian involvement. He said the evidence included U.S. intercepts of Iranian communications and admissions of Iranian involvement by the bombers themselves. McWethy said the bombers were recruited by Iran during a trip to an Islamic meeting in Syria, took religious training in Iran, and terrorist training in Lebanon. Kenneth R. Timmerman has also cited evidence of an Iranian link to the Khobar Towers bombing. However, Saudi Arabia was reluctant to provide evidence on the Iranian role, and the Clinton administration put the blame on Osama bin Laden. Still, no retaliation was ordered. The August 2, 1996 USA Today identified a network of 11 different terrorist-training facilities in Iran, citing classified U.S. intelligence documents. Yet no U.S. action was ever been taken by Clinton against those camps.

The Bush Response

It appears that much of the world wants the U.S. to go after bin Laden in Afghanistan. Iran has even condemned the most recent attacks on America, but that does not mean that the regime has turned over a new leaf. Most commentators fail to point out that Iran has been at war with the extremist Taliban.

NATO, having assisted Clinton and the Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo, says it, too, wants to help us fight terrorism. The United Nations, a host to all of the terrorist regimes in the world except the Taliban, has condemned the terrorist attacks. Russia, concerned about the bin Laden networks in Chechnya, is on our side. China abstained last December when the U.N. voted to condemn the Taliban's support of terrorism and demand the extradition of bin Laden. On Sept. 11, the day of the attacks, it signed an economic deal with the Taliban.

Unless we are prudent, the war President Bush has declared on terrorism, for which Congress has already appropriated $40 billion, could cost more lives and money than the attacks. The Soviet Union, bordering on Afghanistan, could not win a ground war there. That may not be a feasible option for the U.S. If we employ weapons of mass destruction to kill tens of thousands of innocent noncombatants, we risk making enemies of all the Muslims throughout the world and shattering the nearly universal support we now enjoy. The result could be an increase in terrorist acts, playing into Osama bin Laden's hands.

If the Taliban refuse to give him up, we would be justified in using our air power and missiles to deliver a blow sufficiently punishing to weaken them and bin Laden very seriously. We could increase the reward for delivering him into our hands a 100 or even 200 times the $5 million we are now offering. We could mobilize international support for the Northern Alliance, the Taliban's domestic foes, and launch a psychological warfare campaign, saturating Afghanistan with broadcasts designed to turn people against the Taliban.

What You Can Do

Send the enclosed cards or your own cards or letters to David Westin, President of ABC News, Roger Ailes, Chairman and CEO of Fox News Channel and Philip Kent, President of CNN News Group.

NOTES FROM THE EDITOR'S CUFF BY By Reed Irvine

ON SEPT. 13, MY COLUMN ABOUT PROJECT BOJINKA, THE FIRST STORY IN THIS REPORT, was sent out electronically and was picked up by both NewsMax.com and WorldNetDaily.com. We had learned about it from the Sydney Morning Herald. On Sept. 18, CNN.com carried a brief story about it from Manila, but it was not reported on TV, including CNN or in national newspapers, including the Washington Times, which gets my column. On Sunday, Sept. 23, the Washington Post ran a front-page story by four Post reporters in Manila that provided additional details. It quoted an investigator there saying, "We told the Americans everything about Bojinka. Why didn't they pay attention?" On Aug. 17, the FBI arrested Zacarias Moussaoui, an Algerian fanatic, who applied to a flight school for training on a Boeing 747 simulator to learn how to steer. He had no interest in takeoffs and landings. Despite Project Bojinka and information that he was a suspected terrorist, the Post says our intelligence agencies "had no context in which his odd request made sense."

ON SEPTEMBER 11, THE DAY THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN'S SIX-YEAR-OLD PLAN TO HIJACK American airliners and crash them into chosen targets was executed, George Stephanopoulos, the former adviser to President Clinton, who is now an ABC News correspondent, was talking to Peter Jennings on camera on Sept. 11 about President Bush having been flown to Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska and taken to the situation room where he could keep in touch with Washington by teleconferencing. Stephanopoulos said: "There are facilities in the White House, not the normal situation room, which everyone has seen in the past, has seen pictures of. There is a second situation room, behind the primary situation room, which has video conferencing capabilities. The director of the Pentagon, the defense chief, can speak from a national military command center at the Pentagon. The Secretary of State can speak from the State Department, the President from wherever he is, and they'll have this capability for video conferencing throughout this crisis. In my time at the White House it was used in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, in the aftermath of the TWA Flight 800 bombing, and that would be the way they would stay in contact through the afternoon. "

JENNINGS DIDN'T BAT AN EYELASH WHEN HE HEARD THE CRASH OF TWA FLIGHT 800 described by Stephanopoulos as a bombing and that there was a meeting in the inner situation room about it. I called Stephanopoulos twice to find out if he has information that the plane was destroyed by a bomb and to learn more about that meeting. In his book Altered Evidence, James Sanders says that there was a meeting in the White House situation room on the night of the crash, July 17, 1996, but it began before the crash, not after. Sanders says that he was told by a confidential source that high officials gathered there to watch in real time a video transmission of a Navy demonstration of its ability to shoot down a missile off the shore of Long Island. There was a stunned silence when the missile shot down TWA Flight 800. Sanders says the cover-up began that night, with the White House controlling the investigation. Stephanopoulos was showing off that he has special knowledge that justifies the high salary ABC News pays him.

WHAT HE SAID IS INTRIGUING, BUT OTHER JOURNALISTS, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO work for ABC should be asking him for more information. Why did he call it a bombing? When did the meeting take place? If it began before the crash, that would verify the Sanders account. If it took place hours or days later, that would expose his account as false. I called George to ask him those questions. He hasn't returned my calls, and so I discussed the matter with Brian Ross, who heads the investigative unit of ABC News. He thought it was a good story, and he said he would discuss it with Stephanopoulos. Since then I have seen him talking to George on the air, but he hasn't returned my calls to find out what George told him about TWA 800 in private. I also took it up with Major Garrett, a CNN White House correspondent. He liked it, but he appeared to cool off rather quickly. Given CNN's two cancellations of interviews with Jack Cashill about TWA 800, he may have been advised not to touch it. Perhaps with your cards and letters we can persuade ABC's Dave Westin and CNN's Phil Kent to energize their reporters. And we will include one for Roger Ailes of Fox News as well.

LAST DECEMBER, I WROTE IN THESE NOTES, "I ARDENTLY HOPE THAT JOHN ASHCROFT will be confirmed as Attorney General because I believe that he has the courage to clean up the Justice Department and the FBI." I said that as Attorney General he should be able to determine quickly and easily that the FBI was a party to the cover-up of the cause of the crash of TWA Flight 800. I said this would require only an internal Justice Department investigation of the FBI, and I asked AIM members to write to Sen. Ashcroft and urge him to give this high priority. I said, "Otherwise the Bush administration will inherit one of the dark clouds that has hung over the Clinton administration for over four years." How wrong I was about John Ashcroft. On Aug. 15, I sent a four-page letter to the Justice Department pointing out why the letter they had been sending out saying that there was nothing wrong with the TWA 800 investigation was badly mistaken. They obviously are having difficulty in trying to figure out how they can get around the evidence that I submitted. The longer the cover-up goes on, the more it will become their responsibility. But as long as the media share their desire to keep the truth from being known, they won't worry.

CLIFF KINCAID'S EXPOSÉ OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE Taliban is supported by a powerful speech delivered on the House floor on Sept. 17 by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif. He said he had an appointment to meet with the top National Security Council officials in the White House at 2:30 p.m. on Sept. 11. He was going to warn them that the Taliban's assassination of Commander Ahmed Shah Massoud, the charismatic leader of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, meant that something big was about to happen. His reasoning was that the elimination of Massoud would make it more difficult for us or whatever country bin Laden was planning to attack to retaliate. Rohrabacher told how he had labored in vain to get the Clinton administration to help the moderate Afghans who formed the Northern Alliance. He said that despite the fact that a terrorist network targeting America was being created in Afghanistan, he could get no action from the Clinton administration. He believes they had a secret deal with the Saudis and Pakistan to support the Taliban. Rohrabacher said he learned in 1988 what a danger bin Laden posed. The mujahedin showed him bin Laden's camp. They warned him not to speak any English there, because bin Laden was crazy, and he wanted to kill Americans as much as Russians. He told of his efforts to get the CIA, the FBI and the NSA to talk to a source who could pinpoint bin Laden's location for them. They delayed for over a month, contacting the source only after Rep. Porter Goss, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, chewed them out. The speech was not covered by the print media, but it got him some TV interviews and greater entrée to the Bush White House, which until now did not differ from the Clinton White House in its policy toward Afghanistan.

RAYMOND E. JAGER, ONE OF AIM'S VETERAN SUPPORTERS, DIED OF A HEART ATTACK ON August 22 at age 86, after undergoing an 8-hour operation on his back to relieve chronic pain. Ray was one of the most active, outgoing and cheerful senior citizens that I have known, despite the chronic pain that he suffered in recent years. Ray traveled extensively with his wife, Pat, after he retired in 1977 from the Chevy Chase real estate brokerage that he founded. The respect and affection in which he was held was reflected in his memorial service where his many friends and family members gathered to pay tribute to him. Ray graduated from the University of Rhode Island with a major in engineering and from Boston University with a major in economics in the same year. Fulfilling the engineering requirements in three years, he transferred to B.U. because it had a better economics department. There he fulfilled the requirements for a major in economics in one year. He was a generous supporter of conservative organizations and was active in Kiwanis and Rotary. Just last year he put some real estate into a charitable gift annuity shared by AIM and the Leadership Institute. We wish that he had lived longer to benefit from the annuity, but we are grateful to him and Pat, for their generous support of our work.

WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH OUR PLAN TO HOLD AN AIM CONFERENCE IN WASHINGTON on Saturday, October 20, but we have broadened our program and changed the title to "From Complacency to Crisis." Speakers will discuss Terrorism and Afghanistan, The Intelligence Failure, Oklahoma City Coverup, Can We Win the Culture War?, Selling Our Secrets, Bush's Performance, and Our Endangered Whistleblowers. As usual, speakers will be chosen for their knowledge, not for their celebrity. Those we have lined up so far are former Congressman Bob Dornan, Charles Kety, the driving force behind the publication of the Report of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, Kenneth Timmerman, author, Charles Wiley, the most popular speaker with the AIM-AEF speakers' bureau, LArry Klayman of Judicial Watch and Cliff Kincaid. The location is the Marriott Metro Center Hotel at 775 12th St., N.W., D.C. Advance registration will be $159 per person, including lunch and banquet, $75 without meals. Call Claudia Mason at 202-364-4401 ext. 110 to register, using Visa, MC, Amex or Disc. cards. The conference rate for rooms at the MArriott is $169. Call 800-228-9290.


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Clinton policy...using Bin Laden as a bulwark against Iran, Russia and China...what did we get..7,000 murdered Americans...

George Tenet, who heads the CIA, should resign or be fired.

Tenet was too busy consulting with CBS on a television program about the CIA...

1 posted on 09/29/2001 1:10:15 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: Howlin, Miss Marple, dog, Other Informed FReepers
>>>LArry Klayman of Judicial Watch<<<

Will he be covering the issue on how CAIR and AMC raise funds by mass mailings?

2 posted on 09/29/2001 1:19:27 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: majordivit
Good post
3 posted on 09/29/2001 1:25:48 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: michael rivero, timestax, skydrifter
In my time at the White House it was used in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, in the aftermath of the TWA Flight 800 bombing,and that would be the way they would stay in contact through the afternoon. "

These words are from George Stephanpoulis..Clinton advisor..

Can it be any clearer...?

4 posted on 09/29/2001 1:28:19 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: Alamo-Girl
FYI
5 posted on 09/29/2001 1:28:30 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: majordivit
This is a keeper.

I sometimes wonder how guys like Reed Irvine stay sane. He learns things, confirms them, publishese them, and the world ignores it.

There is no better time than in the next two weeks for the Bush Administration to clean out the cobwebs and make it clear that there was more to OKC than a lone right-wing famatic, and more to TWA 800 than a "massive internal explosion" (yeah, right).

If Tenet had honor, he'd fall on his sword. Unfortunately, W will have to ask for his badge.

6 posted on 09/29/2001 1:36:00 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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yup.. I wonder how Irvine stays sane too. Irvine is not part of the govt/media complex..The media is supposed to expose government crime and criminality, but they are either too lazy, too incompetant or complicent with the government crimes and coverups...
7 posted on 09/29/2001 1:40:27 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: litany_of_lies
There is reason to believe there was a middle east connection with OKC bombing plot...old John Doe number two of mideast extraction...plus...looking at side by side pictures of the damage to the Murrah building in Oklahoma City and to the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia..you'd sware that they had to be done using the same exposives...
8 posted on 09/29/2001 1:43:16 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit, rdavis84, LSJohn, Wallaby
maybe old news????
9 posted on 09/29/2001 1:47:20 PM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
Where else have you seen project bojinka reported? I'd like to read the mainstream news reports. Where else have you read about the Clinton policy of backing Bin Laden to use as a bulwark against the different type of muslims in Iran to keep Iran off balance, the muslims in Chechnia to keep the Russians off balance, and the muslims in south china to keep China off balance..Where are the stories in the press about this Clinton policy which ended up with 7,000 murdered Americans?

Is it any wonder that Clinton backed the KLA Albanian terrorists in Bosnia...they were trained by Bin Laden...

Is it any wonder that Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emerites, two of our biggest allies in the middle east, were two of three countries who recognized the Taliban..the people who protected bin laden?

Is it all starting to make horrible sense?

Well, Congressman Dana Rohrbacher of California understands..

10 posted on 09/29/2001 1:55:24 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
Dare we call it "TOWER-GATE?
11 posted on 09/29/2001 2:00:31 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: majordivit
Thanks for the excellent post, majordivit!
12 posted on 09/29/2001 2:14:37 PM PDT by PatiPie
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To: backhoe, LoneGreenEyeshade, Aggressive Calivinists, KLT, Proud2bRC
For your perusal.
13 posted on 09/29/2001 2:16:53 PM PDT by PatiPie
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To: Uncle George
The American Taliban--- OPERATIONS(link)--OFFICERS(mother-father of all... tyranny-terror)(link)!!
14 posted on 09/29/2001 2:17:57 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Uncle George
Sounds good to me...Clinton/Allbright wouldn't heed the warnings which were piling up that Bin Laden had turned against us...and then when Clinton knew about it and was confronted with the terror attacks.....he spun the terror attacks..starting with the OKC bombing and the missile strike against TWA800. His administration go everybody to everybody to say that twa800 blew itself up..in spite of the 200 eyewitnesses who saw a missile go up after flight 800..Clinton spun the terror attack against Saudi Arabia and against the Cole..blaming the US military and not the terrorist and the terror states..and the media went right along with the Clinton spin.. remember..Clinton administration said the army was at fault for allowing the truck bomb to get too close to the barracks..Of course, the only problem with that is that the truck bomb was detonated on a private stree far away from the Khobar towers..

Well, this time ...Bin Laden and the terror states finally succeeded in getting the credit...

15 posted on 09/29/2001 2:20:18 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
I am bookmarking this thread! I'm speechless, and that's not easy to do! Thank you major!
16 posted on 09/29/2001 2:21:32 PM PDT by KLT
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To: majordivit
B-1 Bob has gone slightly crazy and Klayman should be locked up with James Carville and Paul Begala.
17 posted on 09/29/2001 2:24:06 PM PDT by Deb
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To: Majordivit, Thinden
"Labeviere, who conducted a four-year investigation and has written extensively on Arab and African affairs, has concluded that the international Islamic networks linked to bin Laden have been nurtured and encouraged by elements of the U.S. intelligence community, especially during the Clinton years. He says the international Islamic network was protected because it was designed to serve U.S. foreign policy and military interests. "

It's a matter of perpetuating and GROWING the intelligence? community. They've got a lot of dim-witted, unemployable kids to make jobs for, just like their daddies did for them.

Plus, they needed material for their new series that the media put on for them!

18 posted on 09/29/2001 2:26:58 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Deb
Deb, I just slammed the FBI and CIA with one of those "dim-witted, in-bred" comments about their spawn.

I suppose you disagree? :-)

19 posted on 09/29/2001 2:29:43 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: majordivit
Clinton policy...using Bin Laden as a bulwark against Iran, Russia and China...what did we get..7,000 murdered Americans...

And communism had already imploded.

20 posted on 09/29/2001 2:37:05 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: KLT
klt, Cliff Kincaid sat in for Chuck Harder on his radio show two days this past week. For two hours each day all Cliff spoke about was this catastrophic intelligence failure and the Clinton's bin laden gate policy...I too was speechless...Kincaid took only a couple of calls toward the end of each days program.. during the shows he replayed audio news bits from Reed Irvine about this ...

So now its starting to make sense...everything..finally...that stupid attack against the Sudanese aspirin factory which Clinton said was producing chemicals...oh sure...

21 posted on 09/29/2001 2:38:49 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit, TerrOrWar, OKCSubmariner, t-shirt, freedomnews, Fred Mertz, Pummz, a history buff
Labeviere argues that the Clinton administration viewed the bin Laden network and the radical Taliban regime in Afghan-istan as a bulwark against Russian, Iranian and even Chinese influence in Asia. He quotes a former CIA analyst as saying, "The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia." It was believed that Sunni Islam could be used to undermine Russia in Chechnya and China in southern Xingjiang.

Doesn't sound like a very plausible explanation to me. Sounds more like an excuse by somebody who wants to avoid a scandal and to preserve his job and pension.

If bin Laden continued to be so tied in with the CIA -- as I have long suspected -- we have our explanation of why we would have bombed the aspirin factory in Khartoum at a time when the Sudanese were holding two bin Laden lieutenants on suspicion of being involved in the embassy bombings. Would also explain how somebody might have gotten the bin Laden folks to bomb those embassies at a time convenient to Bill Clinton, at the height of the Monica scandal in August '98.

This book by this Swiss guy sounds very plausible. I just ordered it on line.

22 posted on 09/29/2001 2:46:27 PM PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: Plummz
Sorry. Misspelled your handle.
23 posted on 09/29/2001 2:50:33 PM PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: rdavis84
The Clinton years are totally separate from any other administration. His goals, his tactics and his appointees were never for our protection or security. Anything he did cannot be compared in any way to other presidents.

Reagan and GHW Bush acted to insure regional stabilities and to guarantee the protection of our allies.

The quote you've used is childish and so broad as to be meaningless. And I don't understand your statement at all.

24 posted on 09/29/2001 2:59:09 PM PDT by Deb
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To: aristeides
"Would also explain how somebody might have gotten the bin Laden folks to bomb those embassies at a time convenient to Bill Clinton, at the height of the Monica scandal in August '98."

It's a shocking realization that's starting to become clear to more and more "just folks". Our government has been using major created events to serve political necessities. In the U.S. it MUST have started real recently, like with the Clinton administration, right?

Then there was The Maine. And Pearl Harbor. and...........

25 posted on 09/29/2001 2:59:59 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: aristeides
Dollars for Terror, a book by Swiss television journalist Richard Labeviere, claims that Mohamed trained Islamic militants in several camps in the New York area and suggests that he was an active U.S. agent. Labeviere, who conducted a four-year investigation and has written extensively on Arab and African affairs, has concluded that the international Islamic networks linked to bin Laden have been nurtured and encouraged by elements of the U.S. intelligence community, especially during the Clinton years. He says the international Islamic network was protected because it was designed to serve U.S. foreign policy and military interests.

This is definately a must read..I'll try calling a couple of bookstores...but I bet i'll have to order it online too..

26 posted on 09/29/2001 2:59:59 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
I ordered it from Barnes & Noble, www.bn.com. They say they expect to be able to ship it within 1 to 2 weeks.
27 posted on 09/29/2001 3:03:18 PM PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: rdavis84
Good points..What's also disturbing and unforgivable is that we had the intelligence information to stop this attack on the WTC and the Pentagon before it happened...We were told about Project Bojinka.. We should have been looking at our flight training schools for terrorists asking how to learn to fly 757 and 767 jets only while airborne...

And what is the government solution now? They want to expand the power of the federal government..they say they need more intelligence..yet they had all the intellingence they needed to stop this attack.. Nobody is fired...Nobody is held accountable.. This is unbelievable..unbelievable...

28 posted on 09/29/2001 3:06:00 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: PatiPie
Some more links:

-Alamo-Girl's excellent collection of Clinton & more! Links--

-Softwar!-- has tons of National Security info-

-Bill Gertz's Site-- China/Panama/ & more

U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY AND THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

-The Center for Security Policy--

FWIW, I mass emailed this bleeding story to a pile of letters to editors & "opinionators"- maybe some of 'em will wake up....

29 posted on 09/29/2001 3:17:26 PM PDT by backhoe (Has that clinton "legacy" made you feel *safer* yet? ? ?)
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Amazing, truly amazing. You people will never let up, will you, until Clinton is dead and buried, and probably not even then. Whatever about his deeds or misdeeds, the whole of US foreign policy for at least the past generation has, tragically, been leading to this, from Reagan and Bush Senior's arming of the terrorists, to the latter's willingness to let Saddam off the hook, a case of better the devil you know... Whatever the details of the above scandal/paranoid fantasy, they've all been complicit in one way or another. As to the particular details of Clinton's response to terrorism, search deep, friends, think hard. Does anyone really believe that Bush Junior would have done anything significantly different than Clinton in 1998? It took an invasion of a sovereign nation to mobilise the US on a large scale in 1991, and in the wake of a massive attack on American soil, Clinton would be just as gung-ho as Bush is. As for the most proximate possible cause of the tragedy, one that doesn't need in-depth research/delusional detective work, look no further than the laxity of airport security, reforms for which several large corporations opposed, supported by their Republican lackeys. And if you need reasons to be fearful for the future, there's always Bush's walk out on the biological weapons treaty negotiations, which might have limited the spread of these weapons. So when you take a long hard look at the multiple actors involved in allowing this to happen, it takes a very particular breed of brutal opportunist to use the tragedy to whip Clinton yet again.
30 posted on 09/29/2001 3:19:53 PM PDT by gombeen
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To: majordivit
"They want to expand the power of the federal government..they say they need more intelligence..yet they had all the intellingence they needed to stop this attack.. Nobody is fired...Nobody is held accountable"

Read the one I just posted about the FAA Supervisor that failed at Logan so miserably they put her in charge of hiring Inspectors.

We're paying $35 BILLION/yr. for the intelligence? services. Some deal, huh?

31 posted on 09/29/2001 3:21:16 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: majordivit
Bump
32 posted on 09/29/2001 3:22:35 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: majordivit
This is unbelievable..unbelievable...

Incredibly.......unbelievable! The treason charges just keep mounting up against that vile hideous wad of puss. There also seem to be far more co-conspirators than I had previously imagined.

Do I need a full suit of tin-foil to think bint laden and 9/11 are a complete sham?

A wacko conspiracy theory has to be built on wild assumptions and bizarre logic. All you have to do with the above is connect the dots.

33 posted on 09/29/2001 3:31:45 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: gombeen
The points you make have some validity, except for one thing. What Clinton added was more than a mere straw that broke a camel's back, Clinton and his camp, were completely irresponsible and governed on the basis of appearances only. Clinton's legacy is a federal government that is morally pulped. By morals in this case I mean a govenrment that until 08:45 edt 11 september 2001 lacked any sense of self-accountability, full of departments and bureaus whose sole goal is job maintaince. It was soft like the flesh of a rotten pear.

People have started to wake-up -- I mean the career people -- the pensionaires. To wake up to the fact that there is some real duty. But Clinton's cronies are still in, and still pushing those wonderfully high-fat artery-hardening peacetime goals -- even at this time of war and clear danger -- of diversity, of tolerance, of worship of all the PC-idols -- as opposed to the real duties that were and that now obviously cry to be addressed.

34 posted on 09/29/2001 3:39:48 PM PDT by bvw
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To: rdavis84
stinking political patronage...i hear that mass port is a place for politians who are in between other appointed or elected positions....Current MA Governor Jane Swift, i believe, was given a job at mass port...
35 posted on 09/29/2001 3:51:14 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: gombeen
Amazing, truly amazing. You people will never let up, will you, until Clinton is dead and buried, and probably not even then.

I don't think there is a statute of limitations on treason.

Does anyone really believe that Bush Junior would have done anything significantly different than Clinton in 1998?

Without a doubt.

...and in the wake of a massive attack on American soil, Clinton would be just as gung-ho as Bush is.

Absolutely laughable.

As for the most proximate possible cause of the tragedy, one that doesn't need in-depth research/delusional detective work, look no further than the laxity of airport security, reforms for which several large corporations opposed, supported by their Republican lackeys.

Talk about delusional. You're saying that intelligence information that operatives were here and had a plan to use airliners as bombs was meaningless and trivial and couldn't have been used to alter the events of 9/11.

And if you need reasons to be fearful for the future, there's always Bush's walk out on the biological weapons treaty negotiations, which might have limited the spread of these weapons.

Oh yeah, that's right. Saddam was chomping at the bit to sign on to those treaties. You're a complete ignoramus.

So when you take a long hard look at the multiple actors involved in allowing this to happen, it takes a very particular breed of brutal opportunist to use the tragedy to whip Clinton yet again.

He should be tried for treason, convicted, given the appropriate sentence and the sentence carried out. Same for his co-conspirators. His sympathizers should be ostracized and scorned for eternity and any trace of his existence wiped out.

36 posted on 09/29/2001 3:53:27 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: majordivit
Who will have the guts to do the patriotic thing and lay this at the feet of Hillary and her Marxist-stooge? Nothing happened in that evil administration that she didn't approve.

These Clinton scum and their Clintonistas need to be revealed. It sure as hell won't be the socialist, America-hating New York Times that does it!

37 posted on 09/29/2001 3:55:22 PM PDT by GottliebBerger
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To: majordivit
"...Both had back-grounds that would have sounded an alarm had the CIA checked them."

I thought the CIA was forbidden to carry on activities on the USA Mainland.

This was a job for the FBI...uh, Mr. Freeh, IIRC,

38 posted on 09/29/2001 4:03:37 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: TigersEye
you said it..the dots connect...what else are we supposed to make of our two best arab allies in the middle east, Saudi Arabia and UAE recognizing the Taliban govt during the Clinton years..They wanted Saudi Arabia and UAE to continue to recognize the Taliban who protected bin laden.. Saudi Arabia provided the financing.. The Taliban doesn't have the money to feed their goats..
39 posted on 09/29/2001 4:05:37 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: DCPatriot
i believe the cia is supposed to hand off the job to the fbi once the terrorist is on American soil...
40 posted on 09/29/2001 4:06:56 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: GottliebBerger
I believed during the OKC bombing coverup and the TWA800 missile strike coverup that had the American been told the truth ...that it would have brought down the Clinton/Clinton/Gore/Reno/Allbright regime... alass..the govt/media complex attacked the few people like Reed Irvine Chris Ruddy, CDR Donaldson and others who dared to expose the criminal, treasonous, unforgivable conduct....
41 posted on 09/29/2001 4:12:14 PM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
Agreed.
42 posted on 09/29/2001 4:14:47 PM PDT by GottliebBerger
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To: majordivit
...during the Clinton years..They wanted Saudi Arabia and UAE to continue to recognize the Taliban who protected bin laden.. Saudi Arabia provided the financing..

And from another thread circulating as we type:
France condiders weapons sales to Syria:

Industry sources said French contractors have been given the green light to probe the sale of weapons as well as defensive systems to the regime of President Bashar Assad. They said Paris has been searching for opportunities to sell weapons throughout the Arab world. The assertion by industry sources came amid plans by the United States to offer Iran and Syria military aid in an effort to woo them over to a Washington-led coalition against terrorism. Industry sources, however, said the French effort is not connected to the Sept. 11 Islamic suicide attacks on New York and Washington.

Insanity. It's like the guy at the other end of the bar just hit me with a beer bottle and he's threatening to smear me all over the street. So I try to sell him a pair of brass knucks in the hopes he'll be my friend. If our leaders want to preserve any semblance of validity or patriotic duty this kind of BS has got to stop. It again begs the question of how these dots really connect.

Am I paranoid? The real question there is "Am I paranoid enough?".

43 posted on 09/29/2001 4:34:20 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: GottliebBerger
Has it occured to you that the OKC bombing was done a time when Clinton was in deep Kaka and needed a poll boost- he immediately ran there to bite his lip and feel their pain. I have always thought there was much more to this than Timothy McVeigh. I wonder if he thought he would have 72virgins and mansions waiting for him, and who really planned that bombing.

Just like TWA 800. Why would Stephanopolis call it a bombing? Why were witnesses taken to court to shut them up? The FAA did a coverup (under Clinton) not to be believed and nobody does a thing? The FAA needs to be dismantled and put back together.

Clinton fired every US Attorney from the X41 administration as one of his first acts and put his own people in those offices.

I get so danmed mad I ramble. Alamo Girl has it all on her website. There, I feel a little better! Forgive me.

44 posted on 09/29/2001 5:10:25 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: majordivit
George Tenet, who heads the CIA, should resign or be fired.

George Tenet was a Bubby "kiss A$$" and should have gone when Bush came in.. Bush kept too many of the Clinton left overs and is paying the price for it, rightfully so.

Sometimes it makes you wonder if any of these guys EVER LEARN ANYTHING, or if they ARE in FACT all on the same side.

DL

45 posted on 09/29/2001 5:12:14 PM PDT by Pee_Oui
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To: majordivit
In the back of my mind lurks a similar association in the first WTC attack, but I have to admit, it's a fleeting memory; just enough to say, "..just a second."

There was another foiled plot regarding propane tanks - maybe for the tunnels.

Still, like the Mena Arkansas Airport 3 billion in cocaine under Gov. Clinton, this might have merit, also.
46 posted on 09/29/2001 5:24:24 PM PDT by SKYDRIFTER
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To: majordivit
What would you expect from a "Kennedy" state???

DL

47 posted on 09/29/2001 5:25:29 PM PDT by Pee_Oui
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To: DCPatriot
Re: #38, that got changed in several phases, starting with Reagan's Executive Order 12333, I think it was. In any event, they have rarely paid attention to the law.

Check out the Mena Arkansas Airport, Boys on the Tracks and Foster's suicide with three different guns.
48 posted on 09/29/2001 5:29:16 PM PDT by SKYDRIFTER
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To: GottliebBerger
Who will have the guts to do the patriotic thing and lay this at the feet of Hillary and her Marxist-stooge? Nothing happened in that evil administration that she didn't approve.

KT, here's your opportunity... get the NY Freepers all together and catch her at her office, coming or going, and have this all documented and make sure there are photographers, and a good Lawyer with you to make sure you do everything "wintin the law" LOL!!

Can't think of anybody that would get more satisfaction than you, except, maybe me... LOL!!

DL

49 posted on 09/29/2001 5:31:37 PM PDT by Pee_Oui
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To: PatiPie
For more interesting tie-ins, see -

Airline Safety ‘Net

- look to the "TWA-800" and “Attack on America” links.

The events all have connecting dots.
50 posted on 09/29/2001 5:39:37 PM PDT by SKYDRIFTER
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