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"Band of Brothers" concludes this evening
11/04/01 | myself

Posted on 11/04/2001 11:22:56 AM PST by Drew68

Part ten of Band of Brothers is on HBO this evening. It will be the conclusion of the miniseries. Who out there has been watching this show? I'm curious as to what viewers have thought of this program.

I've really enjoyed it. I thought it was well produced. Last week's episode (part nine) was pretty emotional. I wound up rewinding it and watching it again.

I can't wait to see how it ends. I will actually miss looking forward to new episodes.


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1 posted on 11/04/2001 11:22:56 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I read the book. Where did part 9 end? (The TV series may not follow the book so I don't want to tell you how the book ended)
2 posted on 11/04/2001 11:43:45 AM PST by ex-snook
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To: ex-snook
Episode 9 ended with the German civilians burying the dead ih the concentration camp on General Maxwell's orders.
3 posted on 11/04/2001 11:48:22 AM PST by the bottle let me down
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Fabulous!!! Awesome!!! Awe Inspiring!!!

Incredible series. My wife will be glad it is over however. I let everyone know they are not supposed to call our house between 8-930 PM Central.

Spielberg has created another masterpiece. VERY patriotic.

4 posted on 11/04/2001 11:48:59 AM PST by jbstrick
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To: Kalashnikov_68
For a while there, I couldn't believe that Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks could be associated with something so perfect (Spielberg's List is an abomination). However, the last several episodes have taken an ugly turn - Easy Company men & officers getting drunk, looting civilian dwellings, being insubordinate - and a dark undertone is emerging. An awful lot of things that have happened look suspiciously like war crimes.

I hope there is a final scene with the surviving men of Easy Company paired up with the actors who played them.

5 posted on 11/04/2001 11:49:15 AM PST by SlickWillard
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I have watched it faithfully. Series like Band of Brothers will hopefully teach the younger generation how much our men and women in the military have sacrificed for this great country. May God bless them and keep them close.
6 posted on 11/04/2001 11:49:27 AM PST by Man from Oz
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To: Kalashnikov_68
When (if ?) is the entire series gonna be released on DVD ?
7 posted on 11/04/2001 11:53:21 AM PST by Squantos
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To: SlickWillard
However, the last several episodes have taken an ugly turn - Easy Company men & officers getting drunk, looting civilian dwellings, being insubordinate - and a dark undertone is emerging. An awful lot of things that have happened look suspiciously like war crimes.

I'm afraid these dark undertones were very real. The men were sick of the war and would do anything to 'get away'. My great uncle (a SEABEE) told me any stories like this that occurred while he was in the Pacific.

One in particular that sticks in my mind. His unit found several cases of saki (30-40). The men were sooo excited to find it and were getting ready to hane it out to the Marines and Army. My uncle decided it would be better to feed it to the POW's first. Guess what? 25 dead POW's.

8 posted on 11/04/2001 11:54:09 AM PST by jbstrick
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To: SlickWillard
I hope there is a final scene with the surviving men of Easy Company paired up with the actors who played them.

I believe there is a whole program about this. I could've sworn I saw previews for such a show. If there is, I'm thinking it will air after the miniseries concludes.

9 posted on 11/04/2001 11:55:10 AM PST by Drew68
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To: SlickWillard
You get your wish! Tonight part 10 covers Easy Company's (2 BN 506th PIR) in Brechtesgaten and post-war duty in Austria. On Sunday, November 11th, Veteran's Day, a special with the REAL men of Easy Company will be shown. I too read the book, and the men of Easy Company are REAL, and REAL American HEROS to boot!
10 posted on 11/04/2001 11:55:58 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I've watched it and think it's excellent. My father was in the Ardennes, so I enjoyed that part. He has often spoke of how cold it was. The show seemed to capture that well.
11 posted on 11/04/2001 11:57:02 AM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: SlickWillard
Anyone who thinks the EVERY soldier in the US Army in Europe was pure and good as the driven snow is pretty naive.
12 posted on 11/04/2001 11:57:37 AM PST by John H K
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Fabulous show, and very well done. I've been watching it religiously (or as religiously as I do anything).
13 posted on 11/04/2001 11:58:11 AM PST by tortoise
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To: SlickWillard
Actually, the miniseries is very true to the book (and to Webster's book, Parachute Infantry which is not really being credited) and in many cases fleshes out some incidents with more detail than was available in 1990-1992. There have been a few dramatic licenses, but not many. These guys were not saints, but tough combat soldiers.

DVD release is scheduled for Christmas timeframe, I heard many months ago, but I have not been able to find any info on it.

14 posted on 11/04/2001 11:59:28 AM PST by A Simple Soldier
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To: Kalashnikov_68
my husband and I think highly of Band of Brothers and we are sorry that there were only ten installments...we have watched most of the shows...twice.
15 posted on 11/04/2001 12:01:53 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Loved every minute of it. I'm sad that tonight's episode is the last - television at its very best.
16 posted on 11/04/2001 12:08:28 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: A Simple Soldier
'Actually, the miniseries is very true to the book "

And the book is very true to the real.

17 posted on 11/04/2001 12:10:25 PM PST by ex-snook
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Superb! I cannot recall an American production that so unblickingly shows the randomness of combat, nor the comradship that make men stay toge against any instinct of self-protection. I did find Episode 9 a bit didactic, and I kept asking myself: Where did they get all these skinny actors?
18 posted on 11/04/2001 12:18:09 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Squantos
When (if ?) is the entire series gonna be released on DVD ?

The FReeper in post 14 seems to think around Christmas. That would be my guess as well. I imagine HBO won't re-run the entire series. I, for one, plan on buying it on DVD. I hope there are a lot of extras.

19 posted on 11/04/2001 12:22:20 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I specifically subscribed to HBO for Band of Brothers (of course I'll be unsubscribing after the series is done). I thought the series was awesome, although the action did slow down after the 3rd or 4th episode. Pretty good so far. I'm looking forward to the Veterans's Day special of interviews with the surviving members of Company E.
20 posted on 11/04/2001 12:51:15 PM PST by egarvue
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To: jbstrick
I despise Spielberg. I cancelled HBO right after episode 9 when Spielbergs real agenda became evident.
21 posted on 11/04/2001 12:54:18 PM PST by bribriagain
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To: bribriagain
Excuse me ! Is Ed Sullivan in the house ?
22 posted on 11/04/2001 1:46:49 PM PST by exmoor
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To: bribriagain
I despise Spielberg. I cancelled HBO right after episode 9 when Spielbergs real agenda became evident

And what pray tell is that? Some people are just trying to find something they can be offended by.

Let me guess. Are you one of those curmudgeions that dont believe the holocaust occured or are you just upset that the Germans lost the war before they completed their little project?

23 posted on 11/04/2001 1:53:50 PM PST by Dave S
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To: bribriagain
The author, Steven Ambrose, is a liberal. In his newest book, Wilde Blue Yonder, he gives a dig against "right wing Republicans." The book centers around George McGoverns life as a B-24 pilot in Europe. Never the less, Ambrose is a good writer.
24 posted on 11/04/2001 3:37:33 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
The author, Steven Ambrose, is a liberal.

I figured as much. I've never read any of his work, but I suspected Spielberg would not embrace a conservative writer. Nonetheless, I went out today and bought Band of Brothers because I know I'll want to read it after the show concludes.

25 posted on 11/04/2001 4:31:08 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I've watched and have recorded (on the TiVo) every episode. I also read the book by Ambrose and believe the series to be a accurate depiction of the events described in the book.

---max

26 posted on 11/04/2001 4:31:50 PM PST by max61
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To: max61
Wrap-up!

Ok, now that it's over, what was the best? I think the episode on the Ardennes with Doc Reaux and the following one with Lipton as 1st Shirt were just awesome. The worse? The one with Blythe. What yall think?

27 posted on 11/04/2001 7:03:40 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I believe next Sunday, November 11, is when the program is on.
28 posted on 11/04/2001 7:21:55 PM PST by Nick The Freeper
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To: Kalashnikov_68
As I tearfully watched the conclusion this evening,my final comment was "F**k the media!" I am so mad at the "newsholes" for doubting the effectiveness of our guys!When I watched the old timers,and saw the depth of their feeling ..to this day.!....I was livid!Every public voice should praise and support our troops.Most of us have never seen combat.We cannot possibly know the horrors and demands.....but we can give our ABSOLUTE support.Anything less is treason!
29 posted on 11/04/2001 7:22:58 PM PST by Alwayswatching
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To: Kalashnikov_68
30 minutes and counting :) We uusally watch the east coast feed but watched the World Series tonight. My wife and I have been glued to HBO every Sunday night. This mini-series has been fabulous!
Can't wait for the DVD!
This mini-series should and hopefully will win mega awards, we have a good friend who works at Dreamworks and worked on Band of Brothers so we are pulling for the awards:)
Regardless of how we feel about Spielberg and Hanks and their politics they have done an outstanding job with this series.
God Bless our war vets!
30 posted on 11/04/2001 7:35:41 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: Alwayswatching
I'm with you. I also think that I have to give credit to Gene Kelly, Spielberg, Hanks, and Ambrose. It was a great mini-series, and would do well to be included in American History classes.

It might be true that Ambrose is a liberal, but back then even liberals were patriotic. Series such as Band of Brothers will bring back other liberals to that level of patriotism and self-respect.

Patriotic liberals aren't our enemy. It's the other kind of liberal who almost dragged us into the gutter. Hard to believe that Hanks and Spielberg had this patriotic epiphany prior to 9/11, but they did do Saving Private Ryan. I would also guess that Ambrose had quite an influence on them.

Patriotism is once again in the mainstream even in the Blue Zones. It might be small, it might be large, but I'll take that form of progress.

31 posted on 11/04/2001 7:41:31 PM PST by Southack
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To: Kalashnikov_68
My husband and I watched it religiously. We thought it was outstanding and I had to blink the tears out of my eyes at the end. I was way more impressed than I had been with Saving Private Ryan (prob. because that was fictional and kind-of contrived.)

I would say Episode 9 was my least favorite- the labor camp part was good- but the rest seemed kind-of like a dumping ground for little incidental stories.

We taped all of the episodes for my father as the parents won't subscribe to premium channels. He was in the 101st in Vietnam and then again at Ft. Campbell. He has also enjoyed them.

32 posted on 11/04/2001 7:58:30 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: Alas Babylon!
Ok, now that it's over, what was the best?

I'd have to say that for action, Episode 3 (Carentan) was the best. Episode 7 (The Breaking Point) was also a good one.

To be honest, not one was a letdown.

34 posted on 11/04/2001 8:14:23 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Leisler
Ambrose is not a liberal, but rather an Eisenhower Republican. In fact, his books are routinely savaged in the liberal book world in places like San Francisco and New York. They think he's a war monger.
35 posted on 11/04/2001 8:25:36 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: conservative cat
I was way more impressed than I had been with Saving Private Ryan...

I fully agree. Maybe that's because it was ten full hours and the characters were real. I was somewhat suprised that Spielberg didn't direct a single episode. In fact, almost every episode was directed by someone different. Tom Hanks even directed an episode. I think it was episode 5. Yet all 10 shows flowed together well.

36 posted on 11/04/2001 8:26:17 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Leisler
Hey, since you seem to have read alot of Ambrose, check out the afterward of "Citizen Soldier" in which he attacks Hemingway and the liberal academic establishment. I ould just point this out for further discussion.
37 posted on 11/04/2001 8:29:11 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I watched every episode twice. My dad fought in the Battle of the Bulge, and he said the miniseries was very realistic.

I found the entire thing captivating and moving. The music. . . man, the music. Just so moving.

38 posted on 11/04/2001 8:50:18 PM PST by BigJohn44
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To: KC_Conspirator
"Ambrose is not a liberal, but rather an Eisenhower Republican. In fact, his books are routinely savaged in the liberal book world in places like San Francisco and New York. They think he's a war monger."

You just listed four compliments for Ambrose in three sentences. He's clearly a patriot.

Considering that last fact alone probably means that at least New York has changed its collective mind about him now (post 9/11).

Once San Francisco figures out that it is no longer "cool" to be anti-American, it might start to change, too.

39 posted on 11/04/2001 9:08:32 PM PST by Southack
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To: Alas Babylon!
I think the episode on the Ardennes with Doc Reaux and the following one with Lipton as 1st Shirt were just awesome.

My dad was a combat medic, so I enjoyed that episode as well. "Jewels of the Battlefield"!

40 posted on 11/04/2001 10:15:37 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
That episode had some really great scenes. The two that stood out were so subtle that you'd miss it if you weren't paying attention.

The first scene was when the medic wanted to go on patrol and the soldiers told him to stay back.

The second scene was when the soldiers were on line for grub. A soldier put out his cup for his share of the watery gruel, and then put out the medic's cup and said this one's for the doc, and the other other soldier filled up the cup with all the beans.

The soldiers were protecting the medic and giving him the best food because they knew the doc would be there for them if they got hit. It was interesting to see the doc running around during the fighting without regard to the bullets flying or the mortars exploding.

-PJ

41 posted on 11/04/2001 10:27:32 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Political Junkie Too
The second scene was when the soldiers were on line for grub. A soldier put out his cup for his share of the watery gruel, and then put out the medic's cup and said this one's for the doc, and the other other soldier filled up the cup with all the beans.

I didn't even notice that. It is amazing the attention to detail that was given to the production. I guess you could credit Capt. Dale Dye who was the show's technical advisor (and also played Colonel Robert Sink). He really did a great job.

42 posted on 11/05/2001 10:05:12 AM PST by Drew68
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To: jbstrick
I can't say enought good things about the production. I hated to see it end. But wait a minute, the nice thing is the war ends in victory and our guys go home. War is a nasty business and good and bad things happen. The best we can hope and plan for is the good things out weigh the bad. Some war crimes happened and went unpunshed. Well so what? The same events happened on the other side of the lines. Justice dosen't carry well in war. The enemy wasn't asking for justice when he inniated the war.

The photography was some of best I ever seen for the small screen. I got uncomfortable from some of the realism, but that was important to carry the impact of storyline.

One complaint I would have that it came about 30 years to late. Our vets can't get enought credit for what they did. I know a lot became weary through the seventies and the nineties, now the left can can be uplifted in their autum days by the spirit of the junior citizens. And we won't let them down.

43 posted on 11/05/2001 10:58:10 AM PST by oyez
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To: Alas Babylon!
First, I thought it was phenominal television. It should walk away with all kinds of Emmy's next year. The episodes I enjoyed the most were:

Carentan (Episode 3) - Really showed the randomness and brutality of war. Some grusome scenes.

The Breaking Point (Episode 7) - put my sub through a workout! My wife thought we were being attacked! If only my cable company would transmit the 5.1 signal....

Why We Fight (Episode 9) - Not a single shot was fired in this episode. I thought it was visually stunning and incredibly well done.

All in all it was a simply amazing production. Can't wait until it comes out on DVD. It's a keeper.

44 posted on 11/05/2001 11:23:19 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Kalashnikov_68
The series was very good, the 2nd, 3rd & 4th episodes were intense. It brought tears to my eyes to see the real men speaking of their experiences & who the actual hero's were. I believe last night the Major said that his grandson asked him if he was a hero and he said No, but I served with a group of hero's. God bless the men & women who put it on the line for us to be the country we are today. However I'm sure they would turn over in their graves to find out that we have as many traitors in our midsts as we do. By the way their suppose to have some type of Special on Veterans day pertaining to the Band of Brothers Minis Series.
45 posted on 11/05/2001 11:34:30 AM PST by HELLRAISER II
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To: HELLRAISER II
Without a doubt HBO has raised the bar for television. Band of Brothers should not only carry the Emmys next year, but in my opinion it should be considered for some Acadamy Awards. Its as good as any of the drivel I have seen come out of Hollywood recently. The sad part is because it is on HBO, a large percentage of US households did not get a chance to view this masterpiece.

I watched every episode religously, most multiple times. I read where Ambrose in writing the book, wanted to include the good with the bad. Thus, we get to see not only acts of heroism and bravery, but we see the dirty laundry as well. I applaud Ambrose, Speilberg, Hanks and the Men of Easy company for having the courage to tell the story like it was.

If any of the Men of Easy Company happen to read this let me say this to you. Mere words cannot describe how grateful my wife and I are to you and your men. The tremendous sacrafices you went through so that we can enjoy the freedoms so many Americans take for granted, will not be forgotten. I salute you!

46 posted on 11/05/2001 12:21:34 PM PST by thepainster
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To: Wyatt's Torch
The series had some greal lines. My favorte was about Bastone when one grunt told Cpt Winters, "Your about to be surrounded." He replied, "We're paratroops, we're supposed to be surrounded."
47 posted on 11/05/2001 1:06:18 PM PST by oyez
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To: Kalashnikov_68; yall
I enjoyed the series very much.
-- I was in the 503/502 AIR, 11th Airborne, stationed in Munich in 56/57. We still had a few WWII troopers in the regiment, one of whom was my Co 1st Sgt for awhile.

- He was with the 502 from DDay to Dachau, with much the same experience as the 506. - He had some great stories when properly lubed up.

48 posted on 11/05/2001 1:10:30 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Kalashnikov_68
The series was pretty good, though the characters weren't developed very well, and many of them blended into each other.

The last episode was the absolute worst, wherein the Americans turn into a bunch of thieving murderous drunks, and they all come to realize that the Nazi soldiers were just like us.

The fight scenes were excellent and many of the actors (particularly the guys who played Winters and Nixon) were excellent. But some of the casting was downright bizarre. I mean, if you were going to make a movie about warriors would you choose a member of New Kids on the Block, the guy who does "Weekend Update" on Saturday Night Live, and David Schwimmer?!?!

Overall, I give it a "B". Nowhere near as good as "The Sopranos" but miles better than "West Wing".

49 posted on 11/05/2001 1:41:38 PM PST by dead
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To: Kalashnikov_68
I own a 38" HDTV with a DD 5.1 sound system. "Band of Brothers" has been a real treat to watch on HBO in HD.

I can't imagine a more true-to-life production effort. The sound effects (bullets whizzing by in all directions, artillery fire, etc.) are as impressive as the visuals.

And this isn't another action-adventure flick. It really happened, to real people. This is the real 'reality TV'

After 9/11, some people I know stopped watching. Suddenly "Band of Brothers" was a little too much reality for them to handle. As I watched, I kept thinking of our pilots and troops in Afghanistan, hoping for a quick, decisive victory and a safe return for them all, and hoping that history will look upon this new 'band' with the same level of respect and gratitude.

I'm hoping that HBO airs the episodes again, soon. I'd like to see them all back-to-back.

50 posted on 11/05/2001 2:32:44 PM PST by golas
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