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County Executive orders "religion-neutral" Christmas (and blames 9/11 Attack)
King County Executive ^ | 11/30/01 | Ron Sims, King County Executive

Posted on 11/30/2001 8:42:29 AM PST by ppaul

TO: KC Global Announcement to All King County Employees

FM: Ron Sims, King County Executive

RE: Holiday Celebrations

With the post September 11 tragedy climate and the religious holidays starting, we at King County want to ensure that any upcoming holiday celebration at the workplace is held in a respectful, inclusive, and sensitive manner that does not favor one religion over another. Particularly in public areas, this means that any holiday recognition or celebration should be religion-neutral.

Examples of religion-neutral practices include: naming the celebration(s) "Holiday Celebration" or "Winter Celebration;"

using general greetings such as "Happy Holidays" or "Holiday Greetings;"

using decorations that are commonplace - poinsettias, evergreen boughs, lights - but not using religious symbols nor practices; and

obtaining the concurrence of all affected employees prior to holding a holiday social and/or food gathering. Care should be taken that employees who do not concur with holding a gathering are protected from retaliation.

Cultural information sharing about various religious holidays in the name of diversity is allowable when it is done in the context of employee education and is inclusive of various religious celebrations such as Ramadan, Hanukkah, Christmas, etc.

I encourage you to contact Maria Batayola, at (206) 263-7380, should you have any questions and/or comments.

cc: Robert S. Derrick, Director, Office of Human Resources Management (OHRM)

Maria Batayola, Manager, Diversity Management Division, OHRM

King County Executive, RON SIMS

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To: anniegetyourgun
Here is an interesting note from Sims' web page:

Jointly released by the City of Seattle and King County

Seattle and King County are pleased over the receipt of $9,304,891 in federal McKinney Homeless Assistance funds for housing programs and support services for homeless people. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) made the announcement of awards on Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2001.....The $9.3 million leverages over $26 million in other funding resources (including local, federal, state and private fund sources).

Where, pray tell, is all this money going?
If all this assistance is actually going to the "homeless," how come all the homeless are not millionaires?

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And, if this is just for Seattle, just think how much money is being thrown around elewhere!!!

101 posted on 11/30/2001 10:48:05 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
exec.sims@metrokc.gov Everyone should send him an email to express any feelings we all may have about this.
102 posted on 11/30/2001 10:48:54 AM PST by DM1
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Yep, tell the teachers and city workers that they have to go in those days (unless they want to take vacation time). Parents are free to keep their kids at home in religious observance.

Hope they have fun sitting at a desk indoors doing busywork while everyone else is at home with their families celebrating.

Is this County Executive a decendant of Scrooge?

103 posted on 11/30/2001 10:50:56 AM PST by weegee
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To: Walkin Man
...why don't all non-Christians butt out of our holidays!

They see us having too much fun. Travelling across the country to gather with friends and family to go to church and eat a large feast, sharing gifts with one another, "blessing" Peace On Earth to one another, being generous to the Salvation Army kettle, volunteering time at homeless shelters, all in the name of Jesus.

How can this be possible? And this isn't even the "big" celebration, that's saved for Easter.

Some are probably non-Christians who still go home for the "holidays" (and have practicing Christian parents) while others are weak athiest parents who don't have the fortitude to tell their kids, no!

104 posted on 11/30/2001 11:02:44 AM PST by weegee
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To: ppaul
With the post September 11 tragedy climate and the religious holidays starting...

The muslim terrorists have won their battle if they succeed in silencing the Christians and Jews in our country.

105 posted on 11/30/2001 11:05:01 AM PST by weegee
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To: Right_Wing_Mole_In_Seattle
Here's the street address if you'd like to send Simms or Bayatola a RELIGIOUS CHRISTMAS Card

King County Courthouse 516 Third Ave, Rm 400 Seattle, WA 98104

106 posted on 11/30/2001 11:05:27 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: Rebelbase
Was'nt it Lenin who said something to the effect of "remove freedom in small increments and by the time the people realize its gone there's nothing they can do about it"? Except die like men! A part of the equation so many in power overlook. I'll be a subject to no man. Period. Live free or die. Blackbird.
107 posted on 11/30/2001 11:16:00 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: ppaul
Here is what I sent :

If every county followed your lead and allowed only 'religion-neutral' and 'sensitive' celebrations, then every county's celebration would be identical, thus resulting in total homogeneity rather than diversity. Actually, this attitude would require banning any holiday celebration.

108 posted on 11/30/2001 11:40:27 AM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: ppaul
I just sent a blank e-mail with the subject line: "Merry Christmas and God Bless America/Happy Birthday Jesus".

Even if not opened, message gets across.

Oh wait, I forgot to mention to them that I won't be visiting there and spending money any time soon.

109 posted on 11/30/2001 11:43:40 AM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: Looking4Truth
I also wonder if this guy is an affirmative action hire who has built a career filing grievances when he got passed over for promotion. I've seen that type before, everyone is afraid of them so they continue these tactics as a means to advancement when they should be doing their jobs.

I also wonder if he refers to himself as "African-American".

You are either American or you are not. I think I know the answer here, and I'm wondering why we continue to allow these types in government positions.

111 posted on 11/30/2001 11:49:53 AM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: ppaul
I couldn't help but notice that too. Makes Seattle an even more "attractive" place in which to sleep under the freeway.
112 posted on 11/30/2001 12:01:28 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: ppaul
in a word, pathetic
113 posted on 11/30/2001 12:01:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: ppaul
How can Christmas be religious neutral. It is about the birth of the Son. It is the basis of Christianity.
114 posted on 11/30/2001 12:03:47 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: ppaul
WHAT HAPPENED TO KWANZAA?
115 posted on 11/30/2001 12:11:34 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: ppaul
I sent this to Ron Sims Comment box:
What kind of insanity is this? Is your police department going to arrest carollers singing "Silent Night," or "Away in a Manger"?? They are verboten, right?
The sad thing is that if you were living in New York City instead of Washington state, you'd have quite a different perspective about how you chose to celebrate Christmas this year, especially because of 9/11. I feel sorry for you. I hope that bunch of idiots all get switches in their stocking this year!
116 posted on 11/30/2001 12:30:41 PM PST by theoriginalgriff
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To: ppaul
Oh, wow! It's Darkness at Noon in Seattle.
117 posted on 11/30/2001 12:42:08 PM PST by Whilom
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To: SoDak
They have no authority to do this,inclusiveness&diversity be damned.BAH HUMBUG!!
118 posted on 11/30/2001 1:33:58 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: ppaul
this has to be about the gayest thing I've ever heard.
Wilkommen ins Seattle! Sensitivity Uber Alles!

Makes me feel a little sheepish about griping about the fruits, nuts, nimnulls and morons in Cali, when we have so many of our homegrown ones on the west-side.
I shouldn't be surprized though, our state has a long "proud" history of this type of cranial-rectosis -(the wobblies, world sociliast worker crap. hippies, green nuts, limosine-pinko-bellvueites, etc.)
It's disgustipatin'.
119 posted on 11/30/2001 1:35:37 PM PST by tomakaze
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To: Whilom
It's winter. It's always darkness at noon in Seatttle. :-)
120 posted on 11/30/2001 1:36:01 PM PST by doxteve
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To: Old Professer
RE:WHAT HAPPENED TO KWANZAA?

Somebody ganked it.
word.
121 posted on 11/30/2001 1:36:41 PM PST by tomakaze
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To: ppaul
People should go all out in NYC on their Christmas and Chanukah displays. Let our homegrown pc taliban gnash their teeth to the nubs!
122 posted on 11/30/2001 2:15:05 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: anniegetyourgun
All the women I know who liked Peter (like my wife), hated him at first, but I guess he kind of grew on them after a while.

I liked him because Wilbur/Medved/Carlson are all a lot alike. He was a good change from that.

124 posted on 11/30/2001 2:43:23 PM PST by Right_Wing_Mole_In_Seattle
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To: goodnesswins
Thanks!!
125 posted on 11/30/2001 2:43:47 PM PST by Right_Wing_Mole_In_Seattle
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To: doug from upland
#114 - there you go trying to inject logic again....tsk, tsk...
126 posted on 11/30/2001 2:45:28 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Right_Wing_Mole_In_Seattle
Well, I'm glad you liked him. I found his program to be much ado about nothing. Beyond that, was intellectually the weakest link on the station.
127 posted on 11/30/2001 2:47:44 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Last January I retired after teaching for thirty-two years. Schools both public and private encourage the establishment of collective thought that I call the Church of Political Correctitude. Several years ago I playfully announced that I was designing a new "Holiday" greeting card. I made a dummy card to show my teaching colleague. When I showed it to people who where N.P.C. (not politically correct) they howled. When I showed it to people who where E.P.C. (exquisitely politically correct)they praised its celebration of diversity. Now I'll describe that infamous greeting card. It has a Wal-Mart happy face on the outside. The happy face was wearing a peace sign necklace, a Kwanza headband and waving a rainbow pennant. Inside was the cheery greetings "Have a pleasant winter festival". The art teacher especially appreciated my efforts. The next year she created her own greeting card using my design and words. That poor lady actually thought my parody was for real.
128 posted on 11/30/2001 2:53:25 PM PST by Irish Queen
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To: ppaul
Keep in mind that the largest influx of new Americans is coming from chiefly Catholic/Christian nations in Central and South America. These people have a tendency to get just as PO'd as we "caucasians" do at those who would silence our most holy of holidays. These losers who want to silence us are being overwhelmed at this very moment and are just too darn slow to figure it out.

So for the 99% of you out there, not the .04%, not the .02%....

MERRY CHRISTMAS!,

FELIZ NAVIDAD

and FELIZ NATAL y'all!

129 posted on 11/30/2001 2:56:48 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Yakboy
I hereby nominate Montgomery & King Counties for the Bonehead Liberal Counties Of The Year Award.

Who here wants to second this nomination? ;-)

130 posted on 11/30/2001 2:59:24 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: ppaul
How did I know, before I even looked, that this was King County...

Time to move to Idaho or something, I guess....

-penny

131 posted on 11/30/2001 3:00:35 PM PST by Penny1
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To: ppaul
religion neutral

anyone got that gear on your transmissions??
the socialists should all be tarred and feathered (in a sensitive and inclusive way, tho')

132 posted on 11/30/2001 3:27:17 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: ppaul
What unmitigated bs! This Maria Batayola, Manager, Diversity Management Division, OHRM is strictly dead weight and seems to have nothing to do but stir up mischief.
133 posted on 11/30/2001 3:27:43 PM PST by dennisw
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To: ppaul
i'm not homeless, but i can always use a few extra bucks!!

oh, i forgot george's song 'the taxman'....

'one for you, 19 for me'! ..................................................................................have a nice day!

134 posted on 11/30/2001 3:31:02 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: Penny1
Yep, like you I was guessing it was Ron Sims behind this headline.

For about 4 months, I was interned hired by King County in the Mental Health Division and went through culture shock learning how these people think. In that division, most people think this way anyway. It was about 25% gay and lesbian, usually flaunting it with no fear of reprisal and always in line for advancements to "promote diversity."

135 posted on 11/30/2001 3:33:51 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Dumb_Ox
This has already been made public here. Sims is an ass.
136 posted on 11/30/2001 3:41:36 PM PST by ShandaLear
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To: ppaul
The King of King County has spoken, and the subjects will surely obey the king, correct?
137 posted on 11/30/2001 3:52:49 PM PST by jmp702
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Good words!

Veins start popping out when I think of someone telling me I am no longer allowed to say....

Merry Christmas.

LVM

138 posted on 11/30/2001 4:16:12 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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To: Ol' Sox
Very nice!
139 posted on 11/30/2001 4:20:45 PM PST by j_tull
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To: D Joyce
I hope you'll give us a chance to get out first!
140 posted on 11/30/2001 4:25:40 PM PST by j_tull
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To: Looking4Truth
Oh no, the County Executive was just reelected!
141 posted on 11/30/2001 4:28:56 PM PST by j_tull
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To: ppaul
Examples of religion-neutral practices include: naming the celebration(s) "Holiday Celebration" or "Winter Celebration;" using general greetings such as "Happy Holidays" or "Holiday Greetings;"

This is exactly how the communists tried to rename X-mas season in the many countries under their occupation. This attempt did not work THERE, and it will not work HERE! For the curious ones, Santa in the communist vocabulary was renamed as the Grandpa Freeze

142 posted on 11/30/2001 4:30:05 PM PST by malarski
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To: ppaul
Or signs of things to come...
144 posted on 11/30/2001 4:31:48 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: ppaul
Thanks for the ping. What say we get togther, make an appointment with the bastage, and once in, do nothing but sing religious Christmas caroles(sp)?
145 posted on 11/30/2001 4:33:44 PM PST by j_tull
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To: ppaul
Cultural information sharing about various religious holidays in the name of diversity is allowable when it is done in the context of employee education and is inclusive of various religious celebrations such as Ramadan, Hanukkah, Christmas, etc.

This is so ridiculous! Good Lord!


146 posted on 11/30/2001 4:52:40 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: D Joyce; Surge-on
I said: I hope you'll give us a chance to get out first!

You said:WhatdidIsay?

Sorry, that should have been sent to #66 which said:Perhaps we could give both Washington and Oregon to Russia as a belated part of the sale of Alaska to the US?

147 posted on 11/30/2001 7:09:49 PM PST by j_tull
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To: No More Gore Anymore
"WHY YES, IT IS A HAPPY TIME TO CELEBRATE CHRIST AS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS!"

"YES! IT IS A JOY TO SING 'GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST' WHILE SHOPPING."

"YES! GOD'S GIFT OF CHRIST AS OUR SALVATION IS THE ULTIMATE GIFT WORTH CELEBRATING!"

"YES! AND MAY THE HAPPINESS OF GOD'S LOVE THROUGH CHRIST BE YOURS ETERNALLY!"

"YES! AND MAY YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY EXPERIENCE HIS JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND THE FULLNESS OF HIS LOVE."

"WHY YES, IT IS A HAPPY TIME TO CELEBRATE CHRIST AS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS!"

148 posted on 11/30/2001 9:10:46 PM PST by Quix
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To: ppaul
Haven't been to downtown Seattle for many years. Do they still have a menorah in Westlake Mall where they won't allow a nativity scene?
150 posted on 12/01/2001 8:03:35 AM PST by eaglewatch
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