Explorers View 'Lost City' Ruins Under Caribbean

Reuters ^ | December 6, 2001 | Andrew Cawthorne

[#3Fan]

I think it's part of an Atlantis Empire that covered the equatorial regions east of Asia all the way to the West of Spain. I think it was based on a sunken continent just east of the Philippines. I think it's empire covered the islands of the Pacific Ocean, the central parts of the Americas, and the islands off Spain and Africa. Old legends.

[jrewingjr]

"Lost city? How careless can one get? I mean, to misplace an entire city for centuries..."

Perhaps the city was a repository for some incriminating billing records of a corrupt first lady of a bygone era?

[#3Fan]

"Atlantis" was a myth totally invented by Plato. Whatever this is, it's not Atlantis -- if nothing else, there wasn't any contact between the west and east hemispheres!

Why are the ancient Chapapoya Indians of Peru blond-haired then?

[Carry_Okie]

There is a Masonic tradidion that led to the founding of the Knights of the Golden Circle, which later became the Knights of the Ku Klux Clan (kuklus means "circle" in Greek). The plan was for a slave nation that incorporated the American South, Mexico, Central America, and the Northern Coast of South America. Havana was to be the capital. BTW, the Walker family (as in George WALKER Bush) was both a prime member of the KGC and had significant dealings in Nicaragua. There is speculation that the interest on the part of the KGC was in reviving the drug trade, and perhaps rediscovering the gold mines of the Aztecs.

Masonic traditions reach back to Zoroasterian origins, far enough back to have a record of such a city. There are other, more tangible evidences ancient exploration and perhaps trade with Central America conducted by both Hebrew and Phoenician civilizaions. There is evidence of a global drug trade extending back at least as far as the pre-Mosaic dynasties of Egypt.

[#3Fan]

It's a lot of fun to imagine a great ancient city lost beneath the waves, but that's all it is. The fact remains, there was no record of the Atlantis myth anywhere, ever, in any language, before Plato's stories.

There were many.

[Carry_Okie]

"Atlantis" was a myth totally invented by Plato. Whatever this is, it's not Atlantis -- if nothing else, there wasn't any contact between the west and east hemispheres!

Well now we know about YOUR credibility. There is WAY too much evidence on the archaeological record of pre-Columbian trade between the Americas and the Afro/European region for you to make an assertion like that responsibly.

[Carry_Okie]

Sorry about the link.

[DoughtyOne]

If I'm not mistaken, I've seen pictures of part of this. Part of it was huge stones cut and placed side by side to form a long roadway. The part I saw was impossible to pass off as a natural occurance.

[Carry_Okie]

This is significant. Some of our Masonic friends may have been onto something. See #24. Have we found the source of the "Ancient Wisdoms"?

[Don Joe]

"Why are the ancient Chapapoya Indians of Peru blond-haired then?"

Not to mention the bowler (derby) hats! :)

[hinckley buzzard]

This is corroboration? Pillars of pure gold and emerald? Good Lord. Grow some critical judgment.

Why do you think the fables of one ancient storyteller somehow make the fables of another ancient storyteller true? How do you think legends spread?

You show me an ancient Egyptian document, or a great shining gold pillar, and I'll take it all back.(oh that's right, they all conveniently disappeared!)

Right now, what you have is the equivalent of saying that the tooth fairy is real because you read about Peter Pan and it mentions his friend Tinkerbell.

[egarvue]

Hah! I was thinking Lovecraft when I read this too. R'leyh, anyone? The stars are right...

[Centurion2000]

"Atlantis" was a myth totally invented by Plato. Whatever this is, it's not Atlantis -- if nothing else, there wasn't any contact between the west and east hemispheres!

Would you care to explain how Egyptian (africa) mummies have been found with nicotine and cocaine (native american plants)in them then ??

A lot of what we call historical truth can be revealed as WAGS(wild ... guesses).

[spycatcher]

Actually it's always been an amazing tightrope walk along Occam's razor to suggest that the construction of astrologically aligned Pyramids in Mexico and Egypt were a giant coincidence. Besides that, the ancient Olmec statues with features of both black and white people in Mexico has to be considered evidence of east-west contact.

"Martin Bernal, a historian of Cornell University, says it is important to remember that before the discovery of this Norse settlement in Newfoundland in 1965, theories about Viking voyages to America were dismissed as nonsense. What we have seen is a shift from the idea of Viking landings in America being seen as completely fantastic or partisan, to being accepted by every scholar in the field."

From here you'll find that quote and more info about botanical products that may have been traded much earlier than thought.

[d4now]

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[spycatcher]

Great article link, thanks

[spycatcher]

If there's evidence of a culture of some sort, it isn't invalid bacuse Plato or others wrote a story about something similar. An ancient flood was considered a mythological story as well until recently when hard evidence was found of cities under the Black Sea.

So don't base your concept of reality on old stories. I hope you see the irony that you are indeed doing that -- just as you tell others not to. There's no need to feel threatened when evidence arises that changes how we see the world and the past. It happens every day and we don't want you to have a heart attack!

[#3Fan]

True. :^)

[brat]

Wonderful post, spycatcher...thankyou! And thank all of you for the interesting links. There is much food for thought.

[#3Fan]

This is corroboration? Pillars of pure gold and emerald? Good Lord. Grow some critical judgment. Why do you think the fables of one ancient storyteller somehow make the fables of another ancient storyteller true?

When they all have the same story, it can't be a coincidence.

How do you think legends spread?

So you guys are saying that legends can easily spread but people can't?

You show me an ancient Egyptian document, or a great shining gold pillar, and I'll take it all back.(oh that's right, they all conveniently disappeared!)

They predated the common Egyptian dynasties.

Right now, what you have is the equivalent of saying that the tooth fairy is real because you read about Peter Pan and it mentions his friend Tinkerbell.

No, you have people spread all across the earth with the same story and now more and more cities that are 12000+ years old are being found to support those stories. See Tiahuanacu. It's astronomy structures are built to align the solsices as they were 13,000+ years ago due to the earth's wobble.