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What is Free Republic all about? Part II - Media complains of infringement and unfair competition
Free Republic | 12/9/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/09/2001 2:24:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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1 posted on 12/09/2001 2:24:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Great history for the newbies, and a refresher for the rest of us. Are you thinking of writing a book, Jim?
2 posted on 12/09/2001 2:35:51 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank You for the information summary.

I tried to go to some of the complaint letters and none them were found on the server. Must have hicup in the link.
3 posted on 12/09/2001 2:41:40 PM PST by cheme
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To: Jim Robinson
Actually, I have discovered that there apparently is "good copyright infringement" and "bad copyright infringement". Free Republic is guilty of "bad copyright infringement", which of course is indiscernible from "good copyright infringement", except if you examine the political leanings of the sites under consideration. ;-)
4 posted on 12/09/2001 2:43:18 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: Jim Robinson
Please write us a book Jim.

A comprehensive review from POTFR would be nice.

5 posted on 12/09/2001 2:44:28 PM PST by Trailer Trash
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To: Jim Robinson
bump.
6 posted on 12/09/2001 2:51:20 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Jim Robinson
Folks, this unfolding story is one big reason that I donate to FR. We need to support the good fight and break the monopoly that the liberal media has on information. The first amendment is for all, not just for the LA Times, Washington Post, and the rest of the socialists.
7 posted on 12/09/2001 2:54:41 PM PST by meyer
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To: Trailer Trash
Good idea, a book, to encourage us all to fight the good fight.
8 posted on 12/09/2001 3:02:03 PM PST by D. Miles
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To: cheme
Ok, I've fixed the broken links (all but the one to the full text of an LA Times article). Thanks, Jim
9 posted on 12/09/2001 3:05:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Pharmboy
Hey, I might just do that. Thanks, Jim
10 posted on 12/09/2001 3:06:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
I appreciate the retelling of this story. I was a lurker during that time. You have done well with this site.

/john

11 posted on 12/09/2001 3:21:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: Jim Robinson
BTTT and BOOKMARKED
12 posted on 12/09/2001 3:24:40 PM PST by onyx
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To: Jim Robinson
Good job, Jim. This is all very interesting background. I particularly liked the old Drudge story!

Now I'm off to do some bookmarking.

Best wishes,

Silly

13 posted on 12/09/2001 3:32:08 PM PST by Silly
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To: Jim Robinson; Pharmboy
A book is a great idea!
14 posted on 12/09/2001 3:34:22 PM PST by dodger
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To: Jim Robinson
"They'll have to pry my keyboard from my cold dead fingers."

WOO HOO!!! LET'S ROLL!!!

.

15 posted on 12/09/2001 3:38:39 PM PST by Inge_CAV
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, do you think that a major FReep of WP and LAT would be in order, or would it be counterproductive?

The reason I ask is, perhaps their boards of directors and readers should know how people feel about it. I wouldn't suggest that FReepers do anything if you objected; but I think at this point they really need to just drop their suits and get lost. They will get nowhere.

16 posted on 12/09/2001 3:39:17 PM PST by Silly
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To: Jim Robinson
We need Free Republic to stay involved, informed and invested in the legislative and political process. You have done a great service to the conservative movement and I salute you.
17 posted on 12/09/2001 3:41:29 PM PST by Peach
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To: dodger; Jim Robinson
Yes indeed, a book. FR helped the internet evolve into a politically important forum and it is therefore important to document this for future generations wanting to know the facts. And, you've got TONS of threads that are sometimes brilliant, sometimes hilarious and always clever to show Freeper good sense.

Jim, sounds like a winner to me.

18 posted on 12/09/2001 3:42:32 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for part II. Tet 68
19 posted on 12/09/2001 3:44:31 PM PST by tet68
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To: All
Thank you for the history. I started lurking here when I got wired at home. Found you thru Drudge.Addicted now.
20 posted on 12/09/2001 3:47:19 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Jim Robinson; SLB; Lion Den Dan; logos; Wally Cleaver; Nita Nupress; Sal; OKCSubmariner; zog...
Thanks for the history, Jim. I didn't realize that the big dogs were after you in late '97 and early '98. Maybe that's why I found this web site around that time, as a lurker.

Keep up the great work, and never, never, never give in!

21 posted on 12/09/2001 3:55:15 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Jim Robinson
Good job.
22 posted on 12/09/2001 3:55:47 PM PST by Registered
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To: Jim Robinson
Tnanks for the explanation and recap, for those of us who weren't around when it all began.
23 posted on 12/09/2001 4:05:54 PM PST by livius
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To: Peach; Jim Robinson
We need Free Republic to stay involved, informed and invested in the legislative and political process

Peach, that is perfectly worded.

Thank you Jim for this history post and thanks that we are able to "bookmark" here.

24 posted on 12/09/2001 4:08:48 PM PST by maranatha
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm a relative old-timer. I've heard this tune a million times; I've seen the rebuttals; I've carefully analyzed all the positions.

I fall on your side of the fence. The persecution you've endured is selective in its 'enforcement' and is incorrect in its application. You will win in practice, your creation will go on and you will always be at its helm. You go, Jim. In the meantime I'll help in any way I can. Rock on, bud.

25 posted on 12/09/2001 4:10:04 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Jim Robinson
BTTT
26 posted on 12/09/2001 4:24:20 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Free the USA
FYI
27 posted on 12/09/2001 4:33:32 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Jim Robinson
Brian stated that we (Brian was a poster too) on Free Republic are operating squarely within our rights under the U.S. Constitution and the fair use provisions of Copyright Law. He volunteered his pro bono legal services to Free Republic and me personally and vowed to never, ever surrender, and that we would continue fighting the good fight until victory!

Jim,

Did you not understand the risk you were taking by taking such an agressive posture on full-text posting and fair use? Did Brian not explain this to you?

Just wondering.

28 posted on 12/09/2001 4:59:49 PM PST by Z2
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To: dodger; Jim Robinson
"A book is a great idea!"

It's a NATURAL! Do it Jim!

29 posted on 12/09/2001 5:10:56 PM PST by Howie
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To: Jim Robinson
A continue "the good fight" bump! Bump too for your newest profession — author...can't wait for your new release. When's the book signing?
30 posted on 12/09/2001 5:24:08 PM PST by NCEaglette
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To: Z2
Don't think I needed to be informed by Brian or anyone else of the risk. You do not go around bucking the status quo without taking some risk. I risked it all long before I ever heard of Brian Buckley. I was advised, however, that what we are doing on FR is perfectly legal and that we should win, even if we have go all the way to the Supreme Court. This was declared by my attorney many times in interviews, panel discussions, and even in his own postings on this website. Hell, my attorney even posted full text articles here himself. Yes, I am fully aware of the risk and so is he.
31 posted on 12/09/2001 5:40:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks for taking the time to do this, Jim. Where do we go from here?
32 posted on 12/09/2001 5:46:15 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Jim Robinson
I was advised, however, that what we are doing on FR is perfectly legal and that we should win, even if we have go all the way to the Supreme Court. This was declared by my attorney many times in interviews, panel discussions, and even in his own postings on this website. Hell, my attorney even posted full text articles here himself. Yes, I am fully aware of the risk and so is he.

Bump for a great leader. I hope I can meet you someday.

33 posted on 12/09/2001 5:49:51 PM PST by Salvation
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Jim,
Thanks for the history. I'm still new and a lurker most of the time but jeez..I never knew I was a dissident !
Did the "dissidents" over at DU or FreeDem.com ever get the same cease and desist letter?

Thanks for the great site!
-BOB-

34 posted on 12/09/2001 6:04:24 PM PST by Mopp4
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To: sistergoldenhair
ping
35 posted on 12/09/2001 6:44:54 PM PST by facedown
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To: Jim Robinson
BUMP
WOW!! A book surely is in order here! Next to 'BIAS', your story would most certainly be the "other shoe" to drop.
Keep on keepin on there Jim.
36 posted on 12/09/2001 6:55:20 PM PST by Jasper
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To: Jim Robinson
bttt
37 posted on 12/09/2001 6:58:55 PM PST by summer
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim for posting these wonderful vanities as of late. Having found FR in late '98 and joining in '99, I quickly become nestalgic reading these.
38 posted on 12/09/2001 7:24:50 PM PST by RedWing9
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To: Grampa Dave
Ping
39 posted on 12/09/2001 7:35:29 PM PST by EdReform
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To: Lazamataz
"...I'm a relative old-timer. .."

You newbies are always trying to claim something, Laz. If you really want to know how old you are, rest your cursor on your name in any of your replies, and read the number on the line at the bottom, on the right. Subtract 'one', and that's how many people registered before you.

'Course, since so many of those early registers have left, I guess you are an old-timer, so welcome!.....I mean, glad you're still here!

Gad, it's dull here tonite! I couldn't even make that crap interesting. Stay well, pal......FRegards

40 posted on 12/09/2001 8:48:51 PM PST by gonzo
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To: Lazamataz
I fall on your side of the fence.

Whew! I was on pins and noodles, wondering "How will the Great Dissenter come down on this one?"

41 posted on 12/09/2001 9:02:26 PM PST by alcuin
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To: alcuin
Whew! I was on pins and noodles, wondering "How will the Great Dissenter come down on this one?"

Now, finally informed, you may return to your eternal slumber.

42 posted on 12/09/2001 9:06:47 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, you put the "large" in "largesse."

Zzzzzzz . . .

43 posted on 12/09/2001 9:17:54 PM PST by alcuin
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To: Jim Robinson; Bob Ireland; B Ireland
"...You do not go around bucking the status quo without taking some risk..."

Ain't no thang, Jim! They push, we push-back, harder!

It's a great thing that you started here, pal. It also helps to be half-crazy. When I got out of the hospital after my last heart-procedure, I drove to Miami the next day to Freep algore! I was going 130 mph when part of the windshield moulding flew-off, and I had to slow down to 90! The Freep was important!

Keep-on with the 'Free Republic' purpose threads, and try to recover the ancient threads, even if-only for-sale on CD's. Bob Ireland is nuts for the original postings.

WRITE THE BOOK, DAMMIT!!

Stay well, my friend, and may God Bless You and Your Family with a Merry Christmas!........FRegards, Barry/gonzo...

44 posted on 12/09/2001 9:23:23 PM PST by gonzo
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To: gonzo
Thanks, Gonzo. That's one of my favorite Waylon songs:

"I've always been crazy but it's kept me from going insane."

That, and:

"Mommas don't let your babies grow up to punch keyboards."

Merry Christmas!

Fregards, Jim

45 posted on 12/09/2001 9:49:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: alcuin
Laz, you put the "large" in "largesse." Zzzzzzz . . .

Whereas, I've always viewed that you put the torpid sluggish dullard in "torpid sluggish dullard".

Funny how that worked out.

46 posted on 12/10/2001 2:42:57 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Jim Robinson
Required reading for all.
Question has that "other"site(Lucianne.com) been hit with this suit?
Is there a bumplist for this sort of thing? If not there should be, if there is PLEASE put me on it.

Have fun, play nice, be good. Well not too good.

47 posted on 12/10/2001 7:07:34 AM PST by Valin
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To: Jim Robinson
thanks again for the post.
48 posted on 12/10/2001 7:11:41 AM PST by pointsal
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks, Jim, for posting this. I wasn't around when FR was formed and I appreciate the history lesson.

And I agree with the others -- Write a book!!!

49 posted on 12/10/2001 7:30:19 AM PST by Jen
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm not sticking up for any of these online news sources or anything, but I think it is a good idea to post a headline, perhaps a paragraph, and then a link back to the original article so the source (and all of their ads)can get a hit. Sure you can cry about it, but eventually if they don't get enough hits, it's bye-bye news source. Then what?

Just my 2 cents.

50 posted on 12/10/2001 8:06:45 AM PST by Musket
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