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Medical dictionaries redefine "CONCEPTION" to obscure the TRUTH regarding contraceptive technologies
Online Medical Dictionaries | 12/12/01 | Dr. Brian Kopp

Posted on 12/11/2001 8:57:01 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: Aristophanes
If it will help your search, Aristophanes, the doctors were working with/for Searle Labs; Searle brought the first contraceptive pill (as a birth control pill) to market in the U.S. I believe Ortho Pharmaceuticals was next with Ovicon,
61 posted on 12/12/2001 4:06:42 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN; Aristophanes
Did Searle market Enovid? On June 23, 1960, Enovid became the first oral contraceptive approved for sale in the USA, following several years of development and trials on third world women.

Aristophanes, if you can find this reference it would aid my research on this subject considerably. Thanks.

62 posted on 12/12/2001 4:30:24 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Askel5
At least as disturbing, if not more, are the inroads made toward offing the "living" and scrapping them for parts upon "brain death".

Life has been devalued to the point where the science/atheist crowd feels comfortable farming us out life crops. And we're surrounded by the pro-death crowd who are continually crying for blood and violence against the innocent and defensless. Gives me chills. Please flag me when you post your articles.

63 posted on 12/12/2001 4:53:30 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: proud2bRC
You have the name and co. correct; I can't swear to the intro date since I unwisely trashed all my textbooks Searle provided when I was trained by them.
64 posted on 12/12/2001 4:59:07 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
the only caveat I would add, the period you refer to is less than hours and certainly not days

I never said this period was anymore than it was. I was merely pointing out that there is, in fact, a period of time where there is a "fertilized egg" before there is a zygote. This was neither an argument for nor against abortion, only a statemnt of fact, to correct a statement made in error.

All that name calling for nothing . . . in the end I was right.

65 posted on 12/12/2001 6:05:28 PM PST by realpatriot71
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To: realpatriot71
kisses, kisses
66 posted on 12/12/2001 6:17:26 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
:-)
67 posted on 12/12/2001 6:32:33 PM PST by realpatriot71
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To: realpatriot71
I jumped on you because of your condescension towards toenail, thus I over reacted. I apologize for calling you a fecal floater ... that's all.
68 posted on 12/12/2001 7:02:54 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Apology accepted.

:-)

69 posted on 12/12/2001 7:12:53 PM PST by realpatriot71
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To: MHGinTN
I apologize for calling you a fecal floater ... that's all.

Just about the time I want to call a fellow Freeper a fecal floater I usually try to simply post:

"Thank you for sharing your personal opinion. May God Bless you abundantly."

if they really deserve the title "fecal floater" I try:

"Thank you for sharing your personal opinion. May God Bless you abundantly, illuminate your darkened intellect, and have mercy on your soul."

I think that sums it up...kinds says, "bug off you fecal floater, you are an idiot, on the straight road to Hell, here's your tin foil hat..." in a kinder, gentler, more charitable way.

I'd like to see Christian apologists here adopt this phrase, "Thank you for sharing your own personal opinion. May God Bless you abundantly, illuminate your darkened intellect, and have mercy on your soul," substituting it for "You are an insulting pissant . . . I have no respect for liars like you . . .You are the type of fecal floater I've been advised to flush rather than wrestle with."

Keep repeating "Thank you for sharing your own personal opinion. May God Bless you abundantly, illuminate your darkened intellect, and have mercy on your soul," until the idiot gets the point that further correspondence is fruitless, and their views are not welcome by you on that particular thread.

Just my own personal opinion...its probably not wise to give my personal opinions too much further thought...

70 posted on 12/12/2001 7:14:16 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
Whew, I'll have to write that down, RC, my memory isn't what it use to be, what with the clone wars and all.
71 posted on 12/12/2001 7:26:39 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: proud2bRC
"3: the event that occured at the beginning of something; "

Nothing wrong with this definition.

72 posted on 12/12/2001 7:44:51 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: William Tell
The joining of sperm and egg is the closest thing we have to an unambiguous event which can be used to distinguish between the period of time during which a given person exists and the time prior to their existence.

In what way is implantation less unambiguous?

73 posted on 12/12/2001 9:43:21 PM PST by supercat
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To: MHGinTN
Sheesh! I sure did like it back in the GOOD ole days, when a baby was a baby was a baby!!!!!!
74 posted on 12/12/2001 9:44:02 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: proud2bRC
"Illuminate your darkened intellect, and have mercy on your soul!"

That is a classic line. I will be employing it left and right.

75 posted on 12/12/2001 10:14:57 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: supercat
Because conception, the forming of unique human DNA, happens before it. That's what renders it ambiguous. My DNA, the unique package that determines every physical trait I have, came into existence at conception. Not before, not after. Anything else is a viability test, and there begins the slippery slope.
76 posted on 12/12/2001 10:19:24 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Brad's Gramma
A baby is still a baby. It's just that feminists, secular humanists, moral relativists et al lie about that fact. God and science know that life begins at conception, when the mother and father join to produce new life, with unique DNA. Those who try to work in a 24 hour, 48-72 hour, or 9 month window, are 100% wrong. Logically and morally.
77 posted on 12/12/2001 10:23:15 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: aruanan
Well said. Conception starts al the other processes.
78 posted on 12/12/2001 10:28:38 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Blunderfromdownunder
It's supposed to be thunder.

As in "Well, I come from the land down under!"

"Do you hear, do you hear the thunder?"

---Men At Work, 1982

79 posted on 12/12/2001 10:30:48 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Askel5
Well said.
80 posted on 12/12/2001 10:38:56 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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