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Suspected Israeli Spies Held by U.S.
Fox News ^ | December 12, 2001 | Carl Cameron

Posted on 12/12/2001 9:49:48 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON Some 60 Israelis, who federal investigators have said are part of a long-running effort to spy on American government officials, are among the hundreds of foreigners detained since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Fox News has learned.

The Israelis, a handful of whom are described as active Israeli military or intelligence operatives, have been detained on immigration charges or under the new Patriot Anti-Terrorism Law. Federal investigators said some of them failed polygraph questions inquiring about alleged surveillance activities against and in the United States.


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To: Ancesthntr
I liked your comments.

Does selling trinkets in malls sound like a very sophisticated way to engage in espionage against the US government? What could they have uncovered of a top secret nature trying to sell art and taking photographs?

It does sound like they were attempting to infiltrate Arab terrorist groups and spy on them for their own protection. Afterall, much of Hamas's money was raised here in the USA.

21 posted on 12/12/2001 10:54:25 AM PST by vrwc54
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To: aspide
Yes, it makes them accomplices. Once we finish up in Afghanistan, we should nuke Israel next.

Ah, nobody has proved any of this...and if you think the US will ever anything but a close ally of Israel no matter how this plays out you are smoking some bad stuff.

22 posted on 12/12/2001 11:03:10 AM PST by veronica
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To: vrwc54
What could they have uncovered of a top secret nature trying to sell art and taking photographs?

From the article:

Investigators are focusing part of their efforts on Israelis who said they are art students from the University of Jerusalem or Bezalel Academy and repeatedly made contact with U.S. government personnel by saying they wanted to sell cheap art or handiwork.

Documents say they "targeted" and penetrated military bases, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Federal Bureau of Investigations, dozens of government facilities and even secret offices and unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence personnel.

Hmmmmm... They sold some "starving artist" paintings to military bases, gov't offices, and/or the homes of gov't personnel. Check the paintings or their picture frames for bugging devices!

Depending on which malls they were selling the Puzzlecar & Zoomcopter in, maybe those should be checked for bugging devices as well. (IOW, are the malls close to military bases/CIA HQ, etc.?)

23 posted on 12/12/2001 11:09:08 AM PST by jennyp
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To: veronica
"And what about the USS Liberty?"

"A long forgotten and forgiven event which the Congress has just refused to look into - again."

Hadn't heard that the surviving crew members are now all in congress. But if you say so . . . . . . .

24 posted on 12/12/2001 11:10:08 AM PST by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
One USS Liberty surviving member has a message on his website lamenting the hijacking of the event by Neo-Nazis and anti-Semites with an unsavory agenda.
25 posted on 12/12/2001 11:13:56 AM PST by veronica
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To: wideawake
Maybe they have the REAL story on the Clintons, wonder if they will tell it.
26 posted on 12/12/2001 11:17:10 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: veronica
A long forgotten and forgiven event which the Congress has just refused to look into - again.

What right does Congress have to "forgive" a foreign country for deliberating bombing and killing our servicemen?

27 posted on 12/12/2001 11:23:24 AM PST by dlt
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
investigators suspect that they may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance and not shared it.

Okay, even if this is true -- sure, Israel could benefit from a worldwide uprising against Islam -- since when is the only world superpower unable to gather its own intelligence? (Oh, silly me. We're too busy funding free prescriptions and domestic partner benefits to be bothered with intelligence gathering.)

A Defense Intelligence report said Israel has a "voracious appetite for information."

As long as the US is talking seriously about giving a homeland to the so-called Palestinians, Israel would be stupid to think the US-Israel friendship is etched in stone.

28 posted on 12/12/2001 11:33:00 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer
As long as the US is talking seriously about giving a homeland to the so-called Palestinians...

Cheney basically said last week the P-state thing was a dead issue for now.

29 posted on 12/12/2001 11:34:53 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Cheney basically said last week the P-state thing was a dead issue for now.

Fine. It's the "for now" part that's troubling.

30 posted on 12/12/2001 11:37:29 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
suspect

This is American intelligence covering their butts. The implication is: how do you expect that we would have known about the plot when Israel, with such good sources, didn't.

Israel also wasn't able to prevent today's attack in Israel...or last weeks...

31 posted on 12/12/2001 11:38:18 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: dlt
So I guess Germany and Japan and Mexico and Vietnam et al should continuously hold a grudge against us?
32 posted on 12/12/2001 11:40:16 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: veronica
Allies don't withold that kind of information from their allies. Israel is no ally of the US. A parasite, yes. An ally, no. If this report is true, nuke 'em.
33 posted on 12/12/2001 12:00:16 PM PST by aspide
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To: monkeyshine
So I guess Germany and Japan and Mexico and Vietnam et al should continuously hold a grudge against us?

I am not familiar with any instances when we deliberately bombed these countries' ships when we were not at war with them and they were not at war with us. But, this could be my own lack of knowledge. If you don't mind, please fill me in. Thanks.

34 posted on 12/12/2001 12:09:15 PM PST by dlt
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To: aspide
A TREASURED ally in the words of Bush and Powell. (-;
35 posted on 12/12/2001 12:12:10 PM PST by veronica
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To: wheezer
The report says that the Isralis were posing as students selling arts(paintings)? I had an Israeli come in to my door to sell me some paintings a few months ago?
36 posted on 12/12/2001 12:18:46 PM PST by philosofy123
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To: USMMA_83
You have to face Meka first if you are going to that!!!
37 posted on 12/12/2001 12:20:48 PM PST by philosofy123
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To: newgeezer
Imagine Israel being told by the world not to over react to these minor suicide bombings but then see how the world ralley's behind the USA. They have lost 20,000 people to the terrorist scum right next to them and have plenty of fire power to eliminate all of them.
38 posted on 12/12/2001 12:26:30 PM PST by biblewonk
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To: dlt
Israel, and Clinton sold space secrets to China. Now they are competing with us in that always American business segment.
39 posted on 12/12/2001 12:29:34 PM PST by philosofy123
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
An Israeli Embassy spokesman offered categorical denials, and said any suggestion of Israelis spying on or in the United States is simply not true.

This is a stupid lie. We know that they spy, they know that they spy, and everyone here at FR knows that they spy.

40 posted on 12/12/2001 12:39:32 PM PST by Dog Gone
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