Posted on 12/12/2001 10:01:21 AM PST by truth4all
Dang, that's cold!
Of course, could a fifteen year-old gotten so filled up with such rot without mom's help? Well, it's always possible, I guess.
Thats authority -- power really, rooted in violence, or the threat of violence. a goal of anarchism (in the same utopianistic fashion that perfect competition is a goal capitalism) is the eradication of concentrations of power, or of unjustified concentrations of power. you're point's been made. and its been addressed -- again you're mistaking freedom for chaos. Would you say the same thing about the United States -- for sure one of the freer societies in the world -- that it is a "law of the jungle". that it has lead to a situation where its "gimme your lunch money or die geek boy"? (Actually this last one is a bad example, as schools are quite a bit like that), that it has lead, in effect, to tyranny?
Ono!
'Unjustified' by what standard of justice under anarchy? If it's anarchy, who's gonna decide what that standard of justice is?
you're point's been made. and its been addressed -- again you're mistaking freedom for chaos. Would you say the same thing about the United States -- for sure one of the freer societies in the world -- that it is a "law of the jungle"?
Of course not, the US isn't anarchy. That's what that dopey little girl is upset about.
I will make her my comfort-girl when I become the Maximum Leader of her dreamy anarchic country.
This country is in the mess it is because of liberal/moral relativists like yourself applaud idiocy and plain cockeyed thinking.
You don't applaud errant thought - you try to educate it. Failing that - you treat it with derision.
Are justified concentrations of power just naturally apparent to all -- or does the sheriff of Anarchy County decide?
Why people would, relating to each other based on principles i've already explained. usually consensus is used, otherwise voting.
Of course not, the US isn't anarchy. That's what that dopey little girl is upset about.
right. but lets say the US is the freest society. the question for an anarchist then, is how to increase freedoms, and prevent tyrannies. you pick and choose your battles and then we have greater freedoms. The founding fathers increased the freedoms of the time and challenged systems of authority that they found oppressive or unjustified, and that has not led to tyranny. You seem to assume that increasing freedoms today, and challenging current systems of authority would. Do you now see the point? Its not a question of absolutes -- "we are in total anarchy / we are in total tyranny" -- its easy and almost useless to discuss based on those. But of incremental, marginal changes.
As the husband of a teacher, I'd like to point out it's not the teachers, it's the system.
1)It's a system that does not allow the teachers/principals to dole out punishment as needed, because it would "harm their fragile little minds and backsides" and get the school districts sued for child abuse.
2)It's the system that forces teachers to teach kids how to take and pass tests, not the actual subject matter, because if the kids don't pass the tests the districts lose money and the staff can loose their jobs.
3)It's the system that takes a large part of class time away from the teachers for the teaching of actual subjects and instead they have to teach kids how to pick a), b), c), or d) and how to guess at the right answers.
4)It's a system that forces teachers to deal with students who don't even speak English and massive amounts of money is spent to teach kinds in Spanish rather than put them in English-intensive classes where they will quickly learn English
5)It's a system that believes almost every child should be allowed into the next grade, whether the kid should be or not (we are talking people making it to Jr. High who should still be in 3rd or 4th grade).
6)It's a system that believes that every child deserves an A because otherwise it would harm their "self-image" (I'm exaggering a bit, but my wife has had parents call up asking for As for their kids to make their kids feel better)
7)It's a system geared not towards educating, but more towards making kids feel good about themselves
8)It's a system geared towards making the kids grow up unhealthy - recess has been cut down to nothing in many schools and the cafeterias serve junk food, and kids don't have to do as much PE as they used to.
9)It's a system gearded towards turning out little druggies. Rather than throw them out on playgrounds in the morning and afternoon like they used to, they instead drug them up with Ritalin/etc. so they sit there like mindless little zombies.
I've been around a lot of teachers, and there is a high turnover rate because teachers get so tired of not being able to teach the way they were 20 or 30 years ago. This is in Texas, I don't know about other states. Teachers get quite angry at the fact that they have little control of the classrooms - everything is handled at a higher level, and so they have to deal with students that 20 years ago would have been kicked out of the system or held back until they learned.
When does freedom of speech start and end?
Some people here believe that they have this unique right to define this little bit of the Constitution the way they see fit, and not the way it's written.
But then it's no longer anarchy, because rules have been established. Self-governing is still governing.
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