Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged (Who's Behind Harry Potter?)

Jeremiah Films ^ | October 2001 | Pat and Carol Matriciana

[germanshepherd]

Here are a few I found in my Strong's Dictionary (gives original Hebrew and Greek meanings of the words used in KJV translation). (Old Testament) to WHISPER (a spell), ie to INCHANT or practice magic. MAGIC. DIVINATION, ORACLE. In the New Testament, PHARMAKEIA is the original Greek word, rendered "witchcraft" in KJV. It means MEDICATION ("pharmacy") and by extension MAGIC (lit or fig).

If you simply take all the things Pharoah's magicians did in trying to emulate the works of Moses, I think it's pretty clear that we're talking about the same thing, translations notwithstanding.

[germanshepherd]

OK, now I'm really signing off and going to bed. Good night everybody.

[nopardons]

You are a TOTAL, COMCPLETE and UTTER idiot ! I am NOT a " student of witchcraft ". nor do I use it to live my life by it ! Just WHERE, on GOD's good, green earth, did YOU get THAT garbage , in ANY of my posts ? WHERE ? CCP it, so All of us can see exactly WHERE I typed such a thing. Or, is oy, yet once again, that you did NOT read ALL of my replies, but decided, for yourself, what I had said ? You know, like you did NOT read the entire article ?

You know what ? Go read your Bible, pray, do NOT do anything at all else; ESPECIALLY , do NOT come onto a FR thread, ignore the artile, put words into other people's mnouths, and then accuse them of things they did NOT say !

You whinged and whined about people being " insulting " and yet, YOU have the nerve to break one of the 10 Commandments ( THOU SHALLT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS ! ) , all the while you talk about Harry Potter being " FULL OF WITCHCRAft ', and you haven't a clue what " witchcraft " is ! Harry Potter's witchcraft is abut on the same level as the witch in Hansel & Grettel, Cinderella, ALL of the Aurthurian legends, and " THE LORD OF THE RINGS " !

You are a bloody hypocrite, a liar, ill educated, and a blasphemer !

[nopardons]

You don't know the Bible, nearly as well as you suppose you do. Go back and read the ENTIRE scriptures about Moses. I didn't say anything about the parting of the Red Sea, nor any of the plagues. But, as ever, YOU just keep puting words in my mouth. FDR SHAME.

I'm not the one who claims to be living my life EXACTLY to the letter of EVERY law in the Bible, so ot is irrelevant as to whether or not I eat pork; but, yes, I like bacon, and suasages , and BBQ ribs. : - )

As ti the rest, YOU have now become THE head insult person here, newbie. Think TWICE before you start whinging again; hypocrite.

[Doctor Doom]

No no. Take off the kid gloves. Let him really have it, girl.

[nopardons]

LOL , Facts and valid arguments, I'll respect ; unsubstanciated garbage lies, moronic prose, specious insults, fallacious replies, and abject stupidity, I shall NOT let stand. : - )

[JMJ333]

Harry Potter is only dangerous to those who read him.

Too bad you can't just read the books and decide for yourself. If you did you'd realize how silly your comment was. Instead you let someone else decide for you. Do you always let other people dictate what you read and think?

[jnarcus]

Ah you are a scholar and a gentleman.

I hadn't bothered trying to explain what should have been an obvious oxymoron but you handled it marvelously. Thanks ever so

[MSCASEY]

Isn't this mocking and scoffing great? When you hear this you know that you are doing something right! Don't let it get you down! Consider the source and the amount of intellect that it takes for someone to revert childish name calling. Some people will strongly defend their right to remain uneducated and uniformed.
MCD

[jnarcus]

Since when are you a Greek scholar? The pharmokeia to which you refer involves as you said medication i.e. medicines to cure illness by what sense does that come to mean witchcraft? The context and meaning don't fit your definition. Moreover words change meanings overtime I think you need to spend time with more than just the Bible and your copy of Strong's ( here's one for you study the meaning of the word "let")

[f.Christian]

...went an sturred yer up a defil's nest--havent'jewl?

[Illbay]

I have a good friend, a devout Christian 72 years of age, named Potter.

Shall I burn him at the stake?

[Physicist]

I agree. Debating is good. Being rude in debate is not.

Woah, there, Jackson! One of the first things out of your mouth on this thread was that you were up for an old-fashioned book-burning, and now you're supposed to be the champion of reasoned debate? No sale.

The rest of us learned as children that witches and goblins and the rest AREN'T REAL. People DREAMED THEM UP. Apparently you either missed the memo, or--more likely--your parents withheld it from you, but either way you are no less valid an object of ridicule than if you'd come on here to complain earnestly that the tooth fairy had overlooked the bicuspid you placed under your pillow last night.

[rdavis84]

"Through Harry Potter books and audios, children as young as kindergarten age are being introduced to human sacrifice, the sucking of blood from dead animals, and possession by spirit beings.

What's the big deal, I was introduced to human sacrifice and blood sucking in pre-school, but then again, I was raised Catholic..."

Must have been a couple of Catholics who stabbed a 12 yr. old girl thru the eyes and cut out her heart about 5 miles down the road from me some 10-12 yrs. ago. Of course, that was before Harry Potter was around.

Funny thing (ha ha) was, about the same time a 14 yr. old girl got the same 'treatment' about 250 miles away where my Mother lived. Must have been Catholics again.

The 16-17 yr. old boys who did the ritual near my Mother's home are loose now, all mentally fixed up. No worry there, huh? The ones near us never got caught that we know of, because the Circuit Judge put a Gag Order on the whole thing.

Yep, it's all just harmless Kids Fantasy.

[rdavis84]

"I think it's obvious that reading books friendly witchcraft (albeit perhaps not true to "real" witchcraft) is going to make the reader more friendly and open to witchcraft. Even (sometimes especially) if it is just for entertainment."

Well stated.

[rdavis84]

Fired up a nest of 'em, didntcha? :-)

[RedBloodedAmerican]

I watched her interview on Hagee. She is correct. Although she wasn't able to cover all she could have in the interview (time constraints?), she got some major points brought up. Thanks for the post. No one is without excuse.

[DaisyCutter]

I never knew that the nuttier of the witchcraft-obsessed types ACTUALLY BELIEVE that witchcraft WORKS..that is, that you REALLY can curse people and do magic with the power of Satan. Of course, believing that it actually works is probably the best advertisement for Satanic witchcraft there is.

If witchcraft only involves the Devil, the witches and the tacit permission of God (Who allows us to choose Evil so that we have a truely Free Will), then the magic talked about in the Harry Potter books cannot be witchcraft, because the Devil is no-where present. Indeed, worship is no-where present in those books, that I know (and I certainly have not wasted my time reading the entire series of what are, after all, childrens' books), which rules out both Satanic Witchcraft and neo-pagan Wicca.

Ignorance is bliss, ne?

Satan is a christian invention, witches(wiccans, pagans, etc) don't even believe in the existance of satan.

[strela]

Shall I burn him at the stake?

You know what to do to find out. Remember, wood floats and so does a ... duck.

[mancini]

"I think it's obvious that reading books friendly witchcraft (albeit perhaps not true to "real" witchcraft) is going to make the reader more friendly and open to witchcraft. Even (sometimes especially) if it is just for entertainment."

Well stated.

Sorts like good ol' Walt, eh, with his Bedknobs and Broomsticks and Escape from Witch Mountain and the Sorceror's Apprentice?