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Addicted to the Drug War
Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | December 28, 2001 | Ilana Mercer

Posted on 12/30/2001 1:25:13 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName

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To: dcwusmc
You may not restrain someone from speaking (possessing an object or substance)...

Irrational leap. Without anything in support, begging the question is all that's left.

2,121 posted on 02/17/2002 7:05:34 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Prohibitions & prior restraint violates due process:

           In its discussion of the scope of "liberty" protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment the Court [cited below] stated:

Neither the Bill of Rights nor the specific practices of the States at the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment marks the outer limits of the substantive sphere of liberty which the Fourteenth Amendment protects. See U.S. Const., Amend. 9. As the second Justice Harlan recognized:

     "[T]he full scope of the liberty guaranteed by the Due Process Clause `cannot be found in or limited by the precise terms of the specific guarantees elsewhere provided in the Constitution.
This `liberty´ is not a series of isolated points pricked out in terms of the taking of property; the freedom of speech, press, and religion; the right to keep and bear arms; the freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures; and so on. 
It is a rational continuum which, broadly speaking, includes a freedom from all substantial arbitrary impositions and purposeless restraints, . . . and which also recognizes, what a reasonable and sensitive judgment must, that certain interests require particularly careful scrutiny of the state needs asserted to justify their abridgment."

Poe v. Ullman, supra, 367 U.S. at 543, 81 S.Ct., at 1777

2,122 posted on 02/17/2002 10:03:50 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
It is a rational continuum which, broadly speaking, includes a freedom from all substantial arbitrary impositions and purposeless restraints

Thanks for demolishing your own argument.

2,123 posted on 02/17/2002 11:07:58 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Dream on.
2,124 posted on 02/18/2002 9:11:58 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
21 USCS Section 801 clearly and explicitly states its purposes. Splat goes your argument.
2,125 posted on 02/18/2002 2:30:42 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
My argument is based on the clear language of the constitution.

You base yours on long subverted US codes, which in any case, you fail to post, nor do you argue to your point.

Thus, - you merely assert that the statist quo in the WOD's, or being for our rapid slide into socialist government, - is just fine with you, & constitutional.

So be it. You are branded by your own position.

2,126 posted on 02/18/2002 3:38:04 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
It is a rational continuum which, broadly speaking, includes a freedom from all substantial arbitrary impositions and purposeless restraints

Thanks again. 21 USCS Section 801 clearly and explicitly states its purposes.

21 USCS Section 801 (1996)

Section 801. Findings and declarations

The Congress makes the following findings and declarations:

(1) Many of the drugs included within this title have a useful and legitimate medical purpose and are necessary to maintain the health and general welfare of the American people.

(2) The illegal importation, manufacture, distribution, and possession and improper use of controlled substances have a substantial and detrimental effect on the health and general welfare of the American people.

(3) A major portion of the traffic in controlled substances flows through interstate and foreign commerce. Incidents of the traffic which are not an integral part of the interstate or foreign flow, such as manufacture, local distribution, and possession, nonetheless have a substantial and direct effect upon interstate commerce because--

(A) after manufacture, many controlled substances are transported in interstate commerce,
(B) controlled substances distributed locally usually have been transported in interstate commerce immediately before their distribution, and
(C) controlled substances possessed commonly flow through interstate commerce immediately prior to such possession.

(4) Local distribution and possession of controlled substances contribute to swelling the interstate traffic in such substances.

(5) Controlled substances manufactured and distributed intrastate cannot be differentiated from controlled substances manufactured and distributed interstate. Thus, it is not feasible to distinguish, in terms of controls, between controlled substances manufactured and distributed interstate and controlled substances manufactured and distributed intrastate.

(6) Federal control of the intrastate incidents of the traffic in controlled substances is essential to the effective control of the interstate incidents of such traffic.

(7) The United States is a party to the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961, and other international conventions designed to establish effective control over international and domestic traffic in controlled substances.

2,127 posted on 02/18/2002 5:09:27 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
How dumb. Congressional findings are not constitutional law, as has been pointed out to you each time you have posted this. -- You want to believe otherwise? -- Fine.
-- But such bogus 'law' is tearing this country apart.
We at FR are gathered here to restore our constitution from such usurpations of power by the current two party regime.

You support their agenda.

2,128 posted on 02/18/2002 5:59:06 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Findings of fact correlating to explicit Constitutional powers.

Try again.

2,129 posted on 02/18/2002 6:05:24 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
No thanks. You are in a state of repetitive denial.

Call me when you regain some rationality.

2,130 posted on 02/18/2002 8:52:30 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Roscoe
Zealotry and ignorance aren't perfection.

And you Woddies have both of them in spades.

2,132 posted on 02/20/2002 12:32:15 PM PST by MK
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To: MK
"I have spoken with middle class Mexicans who think Mexico is far more free than the US."

Curious notion of what constitutes "perfection."

2,133 posted on 02/20/2002 12:36:06 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: newgeezer
As for being in the "Commerce Clause" making it obvious that it is about money, isn't it possible that it's there just to make prosecution easier?

The commerce clause was never intended to extend the police power of the federal government, something the USSC finally got around to clearing up in 1995 in US vs. Lopez. The ICC has also been used to justify gun control legislation since the 1934 NFA.

2,134 posted on 02/20/2002 12:39:28 PM PST by MK
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To: MK
People who post profane comments violate their word.
2,136 posted on 02/20/2002 12:50:59 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
People who post profane comments violate their word.

Gee, poor little Roscoe gets his virgin eyes violated, soils his panties and cries to a moderator. I guess the Woddies like you are definitely the real moral cowards and bullies, faced with any opposition you run to authority to squash dissent, under the rubric of "profanity."

2,137 posted on 02/20/2002 1:50:36 PM PST by MK
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