Skip to comments.Scientists planted hairs from lynx in 3rd forest
Posted on 01/03/2002 10:25:56 PM PST by Pokey78Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Government scientists planted samples of lynx hairs in a third national forest, according to documents obtained by The Washington Times.
"A preliminary investigation by the U.S. Forest Service said planted samples were submitted from the Mount Baker/Snoqualmie National Forest in Washington state, but the report did not say how many additional samples were submitted from that region.
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What does jumop mean, Mr. Intellectual Midget.
So, you're admitting you're playing right into their hands? Who is the Democrat here? Could it possibly be YOU?
I doubt the dimwit George will ever figure that out
And you've been elected to which offices?
OK, but there are going to be som double hits here :-)
But usually the government is completely on their side and won't investigate and prosecute this kind of criminal behavior.
Yer on it now!
Recently, another wooded area 30 miles away achieved
similar status nearby. How difficult would it be to
move some butterfly eggs by car to some lupine plants
to achieve more protected areas, grants, and enviro jobs?
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Thanks for the birder knowledge!
This has been an interestsing summer & fall for me. Not only have I seen this woodpecker, but during the summer, I walked out of an alley and walked straight into a scene with a hawk of some type standing on the ground (well, it was standing on the pigeon as it ate it) eating a pigeon! I got a _real_ closeup look at the hawk and tried to look it up in a birder book. I believe it was a juvenile northern harrier -- it had a breast pattern that I didn't see on any pictures, but the book said that young northern harriers have the patterned chest that disappears as they get older. Just about a week ago, I saw a _very_ similar looking hawk on the fence next to my garage that had a plain chest, so I'm thinking I may have seen the same hawk as a youngster, and then as a grown up.
I'm a Chicago guy, and my idea of wild life is basically sparrows and pigeons. These hawks and woodpeckers are extra treats for me...
If you don't have such memos it is because you DIDN'T want a paper trail. And if you are hiding something then you knew it was wrong and that implies you were not doing it for the good of the science, but to try and pull the wool over the community's eyes.
When the facts on that website are presented, we find that the only reason your nose is out of joint is because you have shoved your head in the sand. Bush is doing everything he can to limit the influence of the envirowhackos on policy, he doesn't need to kiss anyone's ass for votes.
Real, honest to goodness scientists, like myself, work long and hard on a project. We must produce volumes upon volumes of statistical data before we go to the next research step. That next step requires controlled testing and impecable record keeping, along with strict scientific analysis. All the way through the process the data must be kept "clean" and it must be analyzed by several different teams for absolute accuracy. Anybody gets caught "fudging", or presents falsified data they get canned (never to work in research again) and the entire project goes back to the beginning, do not pass "go", do not collect $200. Millions of dollars are wasted when this happens. Sometimes the project is dumped all together. Many of you that don't work in medical research don't realize that this has happened, and happens to this day. The people responsible for this are thrown out of the medical research community, they are branded, and they are never permitted to do ANY research activities again. The scientific community does not allow these breaches of protocol, they can't afford to.
Now, one might argue that this doesn't compare with medical research. Afterall, medicine deals with human life, and it should be held to a higher standard.......RIGHT? Well, are the lives of the farmers and ranchers in these areas any less important than a sick patient with a certain disease? Are the incomes and families of the people that live there any more important than that of those same sick people? Is the premise of the Constitution that accorded private property RIGHTS to the citizens of these here United States less important than the sick people with some terrible illness? Should environmental "science" be held to the same strict standards that medicial research is held to?
Those are a bunch of questions to answer, I know. I see it every day. Remember when the einvirals got their underwear in a bunch about alligators? They made all these "factoids" about the alligator is an endangered species. Stop killing the poor, innocent alligator. They came up with a statistic that supported their claim that the alligator was disappearing in north america. We believed it, and we stopped killing alligators for shoes, suitcases, and handbags. But, the Cajuns in the swamps of Louisiana didn't! Where they live they don't really get much "government intervention". Now we have an over proliferation of alligator populations in FLA (they were liberal enough to believe the "cooked" numbers of the envirals). They eat dogs, cats, potbellied pigs, and (sadly) little kids. When this debacle hits the envirals proclaim that they have saved the species and the harvesting of alligators can go ahead (regulated, of course). Here's the payoff----Louisiana never had this problem. They never stopped the hunt. Consequently, Louisiana never had to play catch-up with the rest of the south on this manure! Thank God for those defiant Cajuns in those southern Louisiana swamps. It turns out they were much better "conservationalists" than your average, run of the mill, ivy league educated, yankee, enviral, sommitch! How do you count alligators? You live with them, you hunt 'em, you eat 'em, that how! Believe me, those Cajuns, in those swamps are more of a scientist that 300 of those arrogant bastards that claim a degree!
Impeachment isn't the only narrow issue on disaffected constituents' minds. Social and fiscal conservatives have plenty of disappointments to choose from: Sen. Gorton was AWOL during last year's debate on banning race and gender preferences in state government. He is an unabashed supporter of corporate welfare for professional sports teams and timber companies. He co-authored an op-ed article last year with state Attorney General Christine Gregoire, a protege and potential opponent, in support of monstrous tobacco legislation that would have hiked cigarette taxes and given unprecedented regulatory powers to the Food and Drug Administration.He and his ilk are what you think we should all vote for, because they "have a chance of winning"? No thanks.
Instant runoff voting would allow people to vote positively, for those who best represent their views, instead of the "lesser of two evils", and end up with a candidate who most of the electorate agreed on even if it wasn't everyone's first choice. I urge you to look into it, if you are really interested in the best candidates being elected, and seeing that there are no "wasted" votes.
And in the absence of "instant runoff" you elected Maria.
You never know when they'll fire up a "cat survey" in my neighborhood.. whoops, they already have (Northern MN).
There was so little difference between the R and D candidates as to be negligible. This is usually the case. Two big-government candidates from the two halves of the Incumbent party arguing over who has the best government programs. When Republicans start offering real small-government candidates who will stand their ground and not cowtow and pander like a political whore to every special interest group who promises campaign contributions, and who will actually deliver on their endless promises to reduce government, then maybe they'll start winning back people like me. Until then they will continue losing elections.
Perhaps if the "R"s in WA want the votes of libertarians in the next election, they should field a candidate who pays more than lip service (or no service at all!) to his supposed commitment to smaller, less intrusive government.
Meanwhile, I will promote IRV to everyone I run across as a fair and reasonable alternative to current election procedures. I guess it must not seem as attractive to major party people as it does to me, since, if implemented, it might shatter the myth that 3rd party candidates are "unelectable".
In any case, I see no value in beating people over the head with a past election whose results were dissatisfactory, if one is interested in those same people supporting one's candidates in a future election. Seems almost counterproductive.
Republicans put Dems in control all by themselves with no help from anyone by not offering a viable alternative to the Dems. Then people like you ensure further exodus from the Republican party by simply opening your mouth.
I just don't have any time to devote to those who have opted out.
Hey, you're on to something there. Maybe if we start killing off all the endangered species, they won't be around anymore to make our lives miserable.
If you are on this thread one would conclude the these type issues are of importance to you. Are you aware that Sen. Gorton used his Chair of thr Interior Dept Appropriations sub-committee to stop CARA in 2000?
But, by all means, keep attacking. I'm sure that will make me much more likely to vote for the lackluster candidates the GOP shoves before me next time as a "lesser evil". Not.
Heh, not too far from what's going on though. I live near the Glades and the enviro-kooks have a lot of leverage 'round these parts. I'm sure many even kill them without admiting it. After all, one of those could cost a person tens of thousands of dollars. People have been killed for less.
You know what landowners and contractors do when they find gopher tortoises on their property? They put them in a bag and cart them far off, nobody wants them within miles of their property.
I was talking to a "environmental consultant" because we're thinking of building our next place. See, where I live, everyone has to spend several hundred dollars doing "environmental studies" on prospective property (that's before you even buy anything) because if you don't you can really get screwed if the property has this type of soil, or that type of plant. You could incur huge fees (money grab for the compassionate animal loving government), or not be able to build at all. Some people spend lots of money on these surveys before they even find something worth building on.
Anyway, I was talking to this guy at his house when I heard a bird call. He told me what type of bird it was (some sort of crane) and then said "If I found one of those on your property, you'd have a big problem". Even though these stupid birds fly miles each day not seeming to care where houses, cars or anything else man -made is located.
My first thought was that this friggin' joker is not getting one dime of my business. My second thought was what size shot would be good to use for a crane.
Sorry for the long post, but most good jokes (like yours) have basis in reality.
ACK! The above sentence was meant to be added at the end of the gopher tortoise paragraph!
Talk about a fraudian slip! I hope that didn't trigger a "visit". Or yet monitoring under the "Patriot Act".
You are correct. It does appear that sound scientific methods may be being perverted.