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Questions Lurk in a Dead Village
LA Times ^ | January 8, 2002 | By ALISSA J. RUBIN, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 01/08/2002 2:35:39 AM PST by News

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

QALAYE NIAZI, Afghanistan -- No one can be found to tell this story firsthand. There is disagreement from those who live nearby about the details of the bombing.

But what is clear is that where a small village once stood in the arid plains of east-central Afghanistan, there is little left but torn clothing, piles of brick, pieces of human flesh and hair, and a substantial stockpile of small-arms ammunition.


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To: News; dighton
How big lebensraum you actually need ?

Me need heap big liebestraum.

About this much.

51 posted on 01/16/2002 1:43:15 PM PST by Orual
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To: Orual; aculeus
American gubship in every corner, scrawl robbery note to teller, loot only motivation still fail. I not my-self Woody Allen fanclub but that one OK funny.
52 posted on 01/16/2002 1:51:46 PM PST by dighton
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To: SW6906
Right about that

Bump

53 posted on 01/16/2002 1:53:34 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: News
I'm with you! You know the worst thing we did, too? When we moved those World Trade Center buildings right in the way of those nice Islamic pilots. How evil we are!
54 posted on 01/16/2002 1:57:33 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: News
An American gubship in every corner, restricted travel around the world, paranoid Americans killing anything what moves before they look what is that, breaching all concievable agreements, conventions regarding conducting a war/peace and so on... How big lebensraum you actually need ?

America is so evil! Why, in 1941, we even put all of our battleships and destroyers right in the way of all those nice Japanese bombs! Man, we are the worst!

55 posted on 01/16/2002 2:01:14 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: News
Or it is politically incorrect asking about the victims of US bombings in Afghanistan

It should never be in error to question the bombings of the innocent. This is a discussion board and it's called Free Republic, welcome!

56 posted on 01/16/2002 2:04:22 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: News
Now the US army destroyed a complete country of some 26 million people, killed thousands of its civilians, made impossible the aid packages to get to other 7 millions, the leaders of the terrorists are disappeared, destabilised Pakistan, pushed into a nuclear war with India... and so on .... DO YOU FEEL SAFER ?

You and I think exactly alike! We should have given Al Qaeda massive cash infusions for their good work, and encouraged the Taliban government to harbor these freedom-fighters! And New York City should have thrown a tickertape parade for the hero Osama Bin Ladin, for all the suffering he endured by losing those nice young Arab pilots who we killed by putting those buildings up right where we knew they would fly!

America is just so evil, we should so totally just sit around and nuke ourselves! You are so right on, man! Count me in!

57 posted on 01/16/2002 2:04:23 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: News
I would suspect that in the light that the WTC could house about 80.000 people when it is full, you were dancing out of joy because the number of 3000 innocent casualties is incredibly, unbelievebly luckily low compared to what it could had been...

Yes, we danced out of joy for the deaths of these evil New Yorkers, only we wept because we wished there were so many more casualties, especially infants, who are the most evil of all possible Americans! The younger they are, the more corrupt and Satanic they are!

Let's form a Death to America club! You and me man!

58 posted on 01/16/2002 2:06:48 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: News
If only your marines were bloodthursty....

Didn't you know? Our marines slaughter newborn children and drink their blood for dinner every day. That is just part of the Satanic Rituals Americans do every day.

Hating America is SO COOOOOOL!!!

59 posted on 01/16/2002 2:08:52 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: News
Your safety starting to cost the rest of the world too much... An American gubship in every corner, restricted travel around the world, paranoid Americans killing anything what moves before they look what is that, breaching all concievable agreements, conventions regarding conducting a war/peace and so on... How big lebensraum you actually need ?

You might have more luck getting people to take you seriously if you'd check the hyperbole & rabid anti-American bias at the door. You haven't exactly demonstrated a real willingness for rational debate.

How about giving us your idea of the appropriate US response to the WTC attack?

60 posted on 01/16/2002 2:09:38 PM PST by skeeter
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To: News
Or it is politically incorrect asking about the victims of US bombings in Afghanistan?

Think you knew that all along, didn't you?

Don't you know its not nice to bother all these loving, generous people here at FR with NEWS about civilian deaths, especially if they're FOREIGN civilians. No need to get so worked up about the kids dying either. After all, they're just baby terrorists and you never know when one of them is going to throw a rubber duckie and hurt someone. < /sarcasm>

61 posted on 01/16/2002 2:09:47 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: skeeter
How about giving us your idea of the appropriate US response to the WTC attack?

"News" (*snigger*) would advise us to crash more planes into our tallest buildings as a form of pennance for the EVIL that we are. OOOOOOOOooooo America is SO EVIL that we should just take all our nerve gas and disperse it into our most populated cities!

'Cause we're EVIL!

62 posted on 01/16/2002 2:12:58 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
You are tops in evilness! Short while before I feel bad i.e. sympathize at America-victim foreigner, but now must state preference for blood drinking!

Death to everybody!

63 posted on 01/16/2002 2:15:41 PM PST by dighton
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To: skeeter
How about giving us your idea of the appropriate US response to the WTC attack?

How about getting answers to a couple of these questions before launching an all out war against a sovereign nation?

To: The U.S. Senate

Petition to the Senate to Investigate Oddities Involving 9/11 Terrorist Attacks

We, the undersigned, do hereby petition the Senate of the United States of America to thoroughly investigate the events surrounding the acts of terrorism that transpired in the United States on September 11, 2001. Such an investigation would include research into the following peculiarities relating to the terrorist attacks on the United States on 9/11:

1.) Thousands of put stock options that were purchased on United and American airlines immediately prior to 9/11/01

2.) Financial transactions totaling more than 100 million dollars that electronically passed through the World Trade Center immediately prior to its destruction on 9/11

3.) Black-box recordings from the four planes which crashed on 9/11

4.) Cell phone calls made by passengers on hijacked flights on 9/11 which never emerged on their cell-phone bills

5.) Interviews of any air-traffic controllers on duty on 9/11

6.) Eyewitness accounts detailing Flight 93's explosion prior to its crashing

7.) Aircraft debris strewn approximately seven miles from the crash site of Flight 93

8.) Unocal's role in its quest to build an oil pipeline across Afghanistan, plans implemented prior to 2001

9.) Carlyle Corporation's role in overseeing Unocal's quest to have an oil pipeline built across Afghanistan, plans implemented prior to 2001

10.) Role of remote-control software technology implemented in 9/11 hijackings and crashes

11.) George W. Bush's possible foreknowledge of the terrorist attacks on 9/11

12.) Role of the Northern Alliance in explosive growth of opium production in Afghanistan after U.S. military intervention.

We respectfully petition the Senate to make public the results of this investigation.

64 posted on 01/16/2002 2:19:22 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: News
You do well in English for one who understands so little. What is your native tongue?
65 posted on 01/16/2002 2:22:32 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
10.) Role of remote-control software technology implemented in 9/11 hijackings and crashes

11.) George W. Bush's possible foreknowledge of the terrorist attacks on 9/11

No no no, you fool! If we are going to blame anyone, let's blame the Jews! GET WITH THE PROGRAM! The Mossad planned and executed this whole thing just to make Islam look bad! Those poor Arabian boys never had any idea they'd be framed like this!

66 posted on 01/16/2002 2:38:11 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: News
How big lebensraum you actually need ?

Make your time
All your lebensraum belong to US

67 posted on 01/16/2002 2:56:59 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Lazamataz
Call 911, Laz. Maybe they take you somewhere where the doctors can pull your mind off that one track before the train comes roaring through again. Guess no one ever told you about 'Icky-Gooey'.
68 posted on 01/16/2002 3:40:27 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Call 911, Laz. Maybe they take you somewhere where the doctors can pull your mind off that one track before the train comes roaring through again. Guess no one ever told you about 'Icky-Gooey'.

Call 911, Shotgun. Maybe they can take you somewhere where the doctors can pull your mind on to ONE TRACK ANYWHERE.

Anyone who thinks that 9/11 was caused by Remote Control flying or that President Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11 is too far gone to be doing anything but playing with those little wooden trains the little kids play with. Choo, Choo, 'Icky-Goo'!

69 posted on 01/16/2002 3:43:59 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: dighton ; Orual
DO YOU FEEL SAFER ?

Question asked of interns (male and female) applying for a job at Sixty Minutes:

(Apologies to Johnny Carson)

70 posted on 01/16/2002 3:58:06 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Lazamataz
Gosh Laz, are you giving me credit for writing that petition? Thanks, but I only posted it.

So okay, I'll give you an easy one: Tell me why the cell phone calls made by passengers on the hijacked flights on 9/11 never emerged on their cell-phone bills.

71 posted on 01/16/2002 4:04:33 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
So okay, I'll give you an easy one: Tell me why the cell phone calls made by passengers on the hijacked flights on 9/11 never emerged on their cell-phone bills.

Do you have anything close to proof of this claim, or is it something you read on a Rense website? Are the relatives of the victims all clamoring about the lack of the billing entries, or is it one or two? If it is one or two, that is called BILLING ERRORS, and unless you've got something better than a Jeff Rense website claim that the relatives en-masse did not get billed for those minutes, then you are doodling in the sand.

And what's up with this Remote Piloting crap up there? You can't honestly be THAT much a fan of Michael Rivero, can you?

72 posted on 01/16/2002 4:09:43 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: aculeus; dighton
That question requires more investigation.


73 posted on 01/16/2002 4:10:15 PM PST by Orual
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To: Lazamataz
I'm not the Senate. People have questions and they're asking the Senate to investigate and provide the answers. Strange that it would take a citizen petition to get the Senate to investigate the circumstances surrounding what is certainly the hugest attack on America in history, don't you think?
74 posted on 01/16/2002 4:16:56 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Strange that it would take a citizen petition to get the Senate to investigate the circumstances surrounding what is certainly the hugest attack on America in history, don't you think?

Strange only inasmuch as the questions are some of the strangest I have ever seen.

Here, allow me to add to this marvelous petition:

13.) What was the role of the Vegan Imperial Deep Space Fleet, and why were they within 13,000 light years of the planet Earth at the time of the first crash of the airliner into the World Trade Center south tower?

Inquiring minds want to know!

75 posted on 01/16/2002 4:21:21 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Best I know, Michael Rivero didn't have anything to do with this. Neither did I. We've gotten a trifle off topic and this will be my last post on this subject. I'm not the one saying this technology could be used in this fashion, but obviously someone else isn't so sure.

The Northrop Grumman Global Hawk is a robotized American military jet that has a wingspan of a Boeing 737. The excerpts below were taken from an article entitled: "Robot plane flies Pacific unmanned," which appeared in the April 24, 2001 edition of Britain's International Television News:
"The aircraft essentially flies itself, right from takeoff, right through to landing, and even taxiing off the runway," according to the Australian Global Hawk manager Rod Smith.
A robot plane has made aviation history by becoming the first unmanned aircraft to fly across the Pacific Ocean.
The American high-altitude Global Hawk spy plane made flew (sic) across the ocean to Australia, defence officials confirmed.
The Global Hawk, a jet-powered aircraft with a wingspan equivalent to a Boeing 737 [NOTE: two of the aircraft involved in the 911 crashes were Boeing 757s, two were Boeing 767s] flew from Edwards Air Force Base in California and landed late on Monday at the Royal Australian Air Force base at Edinburgh, in South Australia state. . . .
It flies along a pre-programmed flight path, but a pilot monitors the aircraft during its flight via a sensor suite which provides infra-red and visual images. (http://www.itn.co.uk/news/20010424/world/05robotplane.shtm) Then, on September 20, 2001, The Economist published comments from a former boss of British Airways, Robert Ayling: "On autopilot into the future "Robert Ayling, a former boss of British Airways, suggested in The Financial Times this week that aircraft could be commandeered from the ground and controlled remotely in the event of a hijack ...

76 posted on 01/16/2002 4:29:53 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
I'm not the one saying this technology could be used in this fashion, but obviously someone else isn't so sure.

Yeah, and in my youth I met a man who was convinced that the government was run by vampires from this place called Vampire Island, and he had reams of legal documents he would photocopy from the County Clerks office to prove his point.

All I'm seeing here is that Vampire Believers are all over the United States, and they occasionally choose different topics to freak on.

Global Hawk is a nice military project. Doesn't have a damn thing to do with occupied commercial aircraft, mind you, but a nice military project nonetheless.

77 posted on 01/16/2002 4:42:28 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Ahem ... but weren't computers once 'just another nice government/military project'?

I think we need to partition off a little land somewhere (east of the mississippi preferably) to create a new state ... we'll call it Denial. Then you'll be able to live in this state both literally and figuratively.

Whether you admit it or not, the empire is moving to limit and to eventually remove your freedoms as an American, even as it moves to deny life entirely to people who've done you absolutely no harm.

I guess the term 'vampire' fits OK to describe an entity that apparently thrives on the blood of innocents, although its not the word I'd choose.

78 posted on 01/17/2002 4:01:55 AM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
I really get a kick out of you Vampire Island believers.

Did you photocopy lots of legal documents from the county clerks office to prove your case, too, that it was vampires at the controls of the airliners on 9/11? I really gotta hear your theory.

It's important to start every day with a laugh.

79 posted on 01/17/2002 4:34:54 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
How about giving us your idea of the appropriate US response to the WTC attack?

How about getting answers to a couple of these questions before launching an all out war against a sovereign nation?

I see... if my choices are to a) go after the admitted perpetrators of the attack and those who harbor them, or b) roll into a fetal position, as you seem to prefer, I'll choose the former.

80 posted on 01/17/2002 5:38:38 AM PST by skeeter
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