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To: marshmallow
The existence of these papers is not surprising to anyone who has read the history of the Nazi movement before the revisionists, the Pius X haters, and the Catholic-bashers got hold of it.

When Bismark decided to modernize Germany into a great power in 1870, one of his first actions was to attack the Catholic Church, which he saw as an incurable impediment to his plans. He put the Lutheran Church on the back burner, to be dealt with later.

With Hitler it was basically the same. Catholicism had to be destroyed. Maybe half the German Lutherans would have to be destroyed as well, but the other half might be coopted and twisted to his purposes.

Naziism was esentially pagan. Like most modern movements which are obsessed with power and control, it wanted to rule over nature and human nature through magic and science. It refused what Christianity advocates: to submit to God and take one's proper place within the nature that God created.

14 posted on 01/10/2002 10:12:48 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
"...Naziism was esentially pagan. Like most modern movements which are obsessed with power and control, it wanted to rule over nature and human nature through magic and science. It refused what Christianity advocates: to submit to God and take one's proper place within the nature that God created...."

Strange. We have reached the opposite conclusion about the Incarnation of Jesus. All power oriented political movements (the Left in total) must work to destroy Christianity precisely because Christians believe that Elihom/Yaweh/God/Zeus/Allah actaully became man. It's a stunning reorganization of the natural order if every individual man knows that the Lord God was also a man--that he could be betrayed (even hurt?!) by common fishermen and other such laborers. It alters everything. Everyone's proper place, as you put it, is radically altered.

It's revolutionary in a way that all other fake "revolutionary movements" could never comprehend.

That is why Christianity is so despised. It's revolutionary central fact threatentens the pretensions of the faux revolutionaries of all stripes; And also why many other religions--especially, within the context of current event, Islam--are "respected" by the Global controlling class. Napoleon, the proto-Hitler, was confortable "converting" to Islam but despised Christianity.Those religions are more wisely "natural". Man submits to "higher authority" in the heavens, and more importantly for the Controlling Class, on earth. The apostles never "submitted" to Jesus.

53 posted on 01/10/2002 12:51:46 PM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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