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Jasper Texas - Has it Happened Again?
Various | 1-20-02 | Self

Posted on 01/20/2002 5:52:20 PM PST by beacon

Unconfirmed reports indicate another "Hate Crime" may have happened in Jasper County Texas.

But this time - it appears the victim is a white male.

Officials are investigating the death of a white male, who was reportedly picked up in a truck by four black males.

That white male is now dead. The circumstances behind this are unknown right now.

This is all unconfirmed - I am working getting more details.

Stand by.


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1 posted on 01/20/2002 5:52:20 PM PST by beacon
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To: beacon
White males cannot be victims of hate crimes.
2 posted on 01/20/2002 5:54:55 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: beacon
Black on white crime???

This is classified as gang related violence, not a hate crime.

3 posted on 01/20/2002 5:55:07 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: beacon
This happens weekly in all of our major metro areas. Many gangs initiation requires the murder of a white person. Never will be classified as hate.
4 posted on 01/20/2002 5:56:34 PM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: beacon
When I was a child, my uncle was the mayor of Jasper. I spent many pleasant days in this town, as it was not far from where we lived at the time. It is a very pretty typical small east Texas town. I can't believe so much meaness is going on there.
5 posted on 01/20/2002 5:57:13 PM PST by basil
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To: Lonestar
FYI... any news
6 posted on 01/20/2002 6:00:08 PM PST by deport
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To: beacon
Will the Dems tape commercials tying it to the President again?
7 posted on 01/20/2002 6:01:59 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: beacon
Yet another case for CCW.
8 posted on 01/20/2002 6:02:30 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301
Still checking on it....
9 posted on 01/20/2002 6:10:23 PM PST by beacon
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To: Rebelbase
I agree! That's why ALL "hate" crimes should be revoked! Current law covers ALL "hate " crimes anyway! Its more PC lunacy!
10 posted on 01/20/2002 6:11:32 PM PST by texson66
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To: beacon
Let me know when you find out.
11 posted on 01/20/2002 6:12:20 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: beacon
Well, if it's true, then it's not a hate crime. Hate crimes can only be committed by white males against non-white males, unless the white male being acted against is a homosexual.
12 posted on 01/20/2002 6:14:24 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Rebelbase
White males cannot be victims of hate crimes.

That is what the left wing, liberal, socialist, pinko communist Democrats say. I don't believe it for a second, however.

13 posted on 01/20/2002 6:16:47 PM PST by Mark17
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To: basil
"When I was a child, my uncle was the mayor of Jasper. I spent many pleasant days in this town, as it was not far from where we lived at the time. It is a very pretty typical small east Texas town."

I agree. My family drove through it every other week on their way form Beaumont to Quitman in the 60s to visit my grandmother. I've passed through it a dozen times since. There's not good reason for this garbage to be happening there. It's not that isolated, certainly not confined, and it shouldn't be economically depressed. Maybe the all space and variety of industry just allowed the races to live separately in isolation and ignore one another for too long, and now they hate.

14 posted on 01/20/2002 6:24:13 PM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
PINELAND, Texas (AP) - An East Texas hitchhiker is dead and the man who gave him a ride is in jail on murder charges after authorities say the victim was killed when he couldn't pay promised money for gasoline.

Ken Bimbo Tillery, 44, of Pineland apparently stopped a vehicle in a rural area of Jasper County, looking for a ride home early Saturday morning.

The driver, Blake Little, 34, agreed on the condition that Tillery pay for gasoline when they arrived in Pineland, Sabine County Sheriff Tom Maddox said Sunday. Little and four others in the vehicle were from Jasper.

``They went by his house, but didn't drop him off because they were going by the gas station,'' Maddox said. ``They got to the gas station, and that's when Tillery tried to depart by running.''

One or more of the passengers chased down Tillery and a scuffle ensued. Maddox said Little then drove over Tillery, killing him.

Little was arrested Sunday on murder charges. The death remains under investigation.

In the same rural area of East Texas, James Byrd Jr. of Jasper died 3½ years ago when he was chained at his ankles behind a pickup truck and dragged for nearly three miles along a bumpy country road until he was dismembered and decapacitated.

Byrd was black and the men in the truck were white.

In this case, Maddox said the five men in the truck were black and Tillery was white.

``It's too early in the investigation to tell whether it was racially motivated, but it's still very much under investigation,'' Maddox said.

Investigators believe both drugs and alcohol were involved.

Pineland is about 130 miles northeast of Houston and about 20 miles north of Jasper.

15 posted on 01/20/2002 6:33:36 PM PST by beacon
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To: JesseJames
This wont even make the news, victom was the wrong color.
17 posted on 01/20/2002 6:44:02 PM PST by Husker24
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To: JesseJames
# 16: African Americans cannot commit any crime, according to the Government and it's liberal media-they are all victims-all the time.
18 posted on 01/20/2002 6:44:14 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: basil
James Roesch, 20 yr old Imperial Wizard of the Knights of the White Kamelia now lives there. He moved from Ohio to Jasper when he was 18, got married and is trying to set up in the location. I don't know what kind of reception he has gotten, but I have read a couple articles that weren't favorable to him.
19 posted on 01/20/2002 6:47:22 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
I've heard zero about this.
20 posted on 01/20/2002 6:47:34 PM PST by lonestar
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To: lonestar
See #15 above
21 posted on 01/20/2002 6:49:57 PM PST by deport
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To: fso301
Yet another case for CCW.

They already have it in Texas. Maybe they killed him with his own gun. Like law enforcement, it's not 100% protection.

22 posted on 01/20/2002 6:50:30 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: beacon
bump
23 posted on 01/20/2002 6:51:55 PM PST by VOA
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To: beacon
Just see how fast this (doesn't) get into the national media. The only hope is if the smaller conservative news outlets pick it up first.
24 posted on 01/20/2002 6:52:13 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: Rebelbase
excuse me??? white males cannot be victims of hate crimes??? you ignorant ass....
25 posted on 01/20/2002 7:01:56 PM PST by JimSha
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To: beacon
This story will be filed in 'Drawer 13' along with the Wichita Horror and the Jesse Dirkhising story.



26 posted on 01/20/2002 7:07:44 PM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: beacon;elfman2
Sabine County Sheriff Tom Maddox said Sunday. Little and four others in the vehicle were from Jasper.

Isn't that something, I lived in Jasper, Tx, in 1963 and 64, and the Sheriff Dept and the Fire Hall was across the street fron Neches Chevy and Olds where I ran the Body Shop, and if memory serves me right, the sheriff's name was Maddox at that time also.

Jasper County was dry then too, and smuggling booze was a favorite past time.

I went back for a visit around 4 years ago, and it is still a beautiful little town in the Pineywoods area of east Texas, and the last place in the world you'd expect these things to be happening in. Well I swannnn, Lol JH

27 posted on 01/20/2002 7:08:33 PM PST by JHavard
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To: elfman2
I've lived in Jasper and in many other places and the people in Jasper are no more racist than any other.

Don't believe everything you read!

28 posted on 01/20/2002 7:12:12 PM PST by lonestar
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To: beacon
Investigators believe both drugs and alcohol were involved.

Sounds like "drunk" crime to me.

Tillery promised he'd buy gas, and didn't, and the car was used a deadly weapon.

The question is, who was using drugs and who was drinking.

That whole hitchhiking thing I don't get.

I've never hitchhiked, and I wouldn't pick up anybody unless they were bleeding.

29 posted on 01/20/2002 7:17:13 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: beacon
Investigators believe both drugs and alcohol were involved.

There is a new book out about the murder of James Byrd, Jr., and this is from the Houston Chronicle review:

Finally (the author) reports that, in the words of a local black minister, "James [Byrd]wasn't what you might call one of Jasper's upstanding citizens." He was a felon, a forger of checks, unemployed. He refused to support his former wife and children. He apparently was also drunk the night he was draggd to his death.

Shawn Berry, one of the murderers, the one who got "life" rather than the death penalty, grew up near a black community, playing with black kids all his life. Several testified on his behalf at his trial. A black woman told me she played with Shawn growing up, and "there wasn't a racist bone in his body." But he's in the pen for life for a "hate crime."

In Jasper, the weekend before the James Byrd murder, a black man beat a white man to death with a pipe. Beat his eyes out of their sockets; it wasn't a "hate crime." The black man had worked for the white man.

30 posted on 01/20/2002 7:30:38 PM PST by lonestar
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To: beacon
Oh-this is not a hate crime, it's a simple case of stopping a thief! I should have known!
31 posted on 01/20/2002 9:27:30 PM PST by brat
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To: beacon
Yep, this is going to be all over the airwaves .... NOT.
32 posted on 01/20/2002 9:46:47 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: JimSha
Have you read the rules of this forum? You cannot call people names like that. Besides, it might behoove you to stick around a bit before getting on your high horse. If you had of done that first, you would have been able to recognize FReeper Sarcasm.
33 posted on 01/20/2002 10:29:57 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: lewislynn
Maybe they killed him with his own gun

As the old saying goes: If you carry a weapon, be sure you'll use it when the time comes.

34 posted on 01/21/2002 7:38:17 PM PST by fso301
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