Posted on 01/22/2002 2:52:18 PM PST by enrg
Bad news for you is that we are going to establish what facts have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Fact #1: All countries or regions which happen to be an impediment to oil transportation routes from Caspian Basin and Central Asia towards the East and West have been subjected either to US militarys direct or indirect interference or to an all-out war: Chechnya, Georgia, Kurdistan, Yugoslavia, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia and Afghanistan. Result: US military bases in the Persian Gulf, Bosnia, Kosovo, Croatia, Macedonia, Albania, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan and Afghanistan. In 1996, the US Trade and Development Agency granted permission for the initial feasibility study for AMBO project to the US firm Brown & Root Services and funded the project in March 2001. Brown & Root had built military base Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo, located very near the pipeline route. AMBO pipeline is scheduled to be operational by 2005.
Fact #2: Principal agents (in this case, US government) rely on proxies (Muslim fundamentalists) to carry out their own plans (control of energy corridor) and hope to control them by means of the Special Forces and "advisors" (MPRI) working on the ground. Proxy wars -- and the problems that accompany them -- are hardly new. America fought most of its wars against Communism through proxies. It also funded Jonas Savimbi in Angola, Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia, etc. [Michael Ignatieff is the Carr Professor of Human Rights Practice, Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University]
Fact #3: "It has been now documented beyond doubt that Washington is behind the terrorist assaults in Macedonia." [Dr. Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa.]
"During fighting around Aracinovo on Monday night, an American diplomat was slightly wounded by Macedonian gunfire as he emerged from the woods with two other Americans, according to an American newspaper. The paper does not speculate what an American "diplomat" might have been doing in such a covert place as a wood full of rebels." [International Herald Tribune, 26th June 2001, page 7]
"MPRI, a mercenary company in Virginia, the United States, working on contract with Pentagon has trained BOTH the KLA and the Macedonian Army. It has worked also for the Bosnian Army and was deeply involved in training the Croatian Army that drove out some 200.000 legitimate Serb citizens from Croatia in 1995. In short, the type of actor that really helps bring about the specific EU and NATO type of peace." [[Dr. Jan Oberg, former director of the Lund University Peace Research Institute, former member of the Danish government's Committee on security and disarmament.]
Ill have mercy on you this time; no Col. Hackworth to hunt you.
If MPRI were training Macedonian Army, why would Macedonians come out with fabrications regarding Aracinovo/MPRI, insult US Government and risk to lose support of the only superpower? Can you offer a reasonable explanation?
Good news for you is that there are others who have problems with circumstantial evidence:
Prosecuting attorney asked the farmer if he could convict someone on circumstantial evidence.
The farmer responded, "No way in hell could I do that!!" The attorney asked why he was so adamant in his answer. He replied that he once had a very bad experience with circumstantial evidence. The attorney asked him to explain."
"Well sir," the farmer began, "I was out in the barn milking ole' Bessie one hot day and as I was milking her she kicked over the milk pail with her right front foot. The milk soaked my overalls and underwear, so I took them off, rinsed them out in the water trough and hung them out to dry.
"Then, I got a piece of rope and tied her right foot to the floor. I sat back down and starting milking again and the silly cow kicked over the pail with her left front foot. So I tied that one down to the floor as well. She then proceeded to kick over the pail with each of her back feet so I tied both of them to the floor. Well, I thought I had things under control until she whipped her tail around and slapped me right in the face. Very annoyed at her antics, I moved my stool behind her, stood up on it, and as I was in the process of tying her tail to one of the rafters, wearing nothing but my T-Shirt and boots, my wife walked into the barn!"
"No Sir!! I do not believe in circumstantial evidence!"
Mercenaries fighting on both sides for money? I'm shocked! Shocked!!
I see theres still nothing in your arsenal besides slandering Col. Hackworth. That popgun didnt have any effect last time, either. Such a shame that Jan Oberg has joined David Hackworth et al. in the great Macedonian nationalist conspiracy.
An American diplomat, meanwhile, was wounded by Macedonian government troops in what was apparently inadvertent gunfire fired near Aracinovo.
The diplomat, overheard identifying himself as John Green, was emerging from the woods with two other Americans near the rebel-controlled village of Grusinovo when Macedonian troops fired warning shots.
Two of the shots wounded Green, one in the arm and the other in the leg, but apparently not seriously. The Americans, in civilian clothes, all raised their arms in the air. Realizing the mistake, the Macedonians called for an ambulance.
Green hobbled into the vehicle after shaking hands with Macedonian officers. The two sides apparently mumbled a string of apologies. Green waved his U.S. passport to reporters as he was driven away.
So this gets transmogrified by Chris Deliso into...
Apparently one of the MPRI men had been captured by the Macedonians. He panicked, and, waving his US passport, shouted diplomatic immunity! Through heavy US intercession, the man was freed and evacuated together with his comrades and the NLA fighters. European sources identified this particular individual as having been active in training Bosnian fighters in the 1990s.
Do you see how actual events are changed, resulting in the fictional accounts you are now presenting me with as evidence?
Again, you have nothing to support the presence of MPRI personnel in Aracinovo - the passage referenced from IHT:
"During fighting around Aracinovo on Monday night, an American diplomat was slightly wounded by Macedonian gunfire as he emerged from the woods with two other Americans, according to an American newspaper. The paper does not speculate what an American "diplomat" might have been doing in such a covert place as a wood full of rebels."
substitutes innuendo for fact - which may be good enough for you, Upland, but it's not good enough for me.
Macedonian TV says government security forces yesterday opened fire on a rented car about one kilometer from Nikustak, allegedly because the driver did not obey their order to stop. Four people with diplomatic passports were in the car and one of the persons was injured during the attack. The wounded diplomat was a U.S. citizen.
Further, from Richard Boucher, US State Dept Spokesman
With regard to the wounding of a member of our embassy, there was an embassy observer team that wasn't -- they were unmarked, they weren't particularly identified as such. But there was a team that was out southwest of Kumanovo. They came under fire. At this point we don't know all the facts, but one member of that team was wounded. The Macedonian forces provided first aid and assistance to the wounded team member, and he is being treated at Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo. His condition is not life-threatening.
Richard Boucher meets the credibility requirements on the issue for me, Upland.
Your move.
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