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Homosexuality Is Key to Some College Scholarships
CNSNews.com ^ | January 21, 2002 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 01/23/2002 8:43:27 AM PST by tdadams

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To: wwjdn
"Look at how much they have costs us in medical expenses (AIDS), etc."

Why don't you simply oppose paying for those medical expenses? Then they would have to deal with the consequences of their behavior and live their life with full knowledge and the commitment to deal with those problems.
41 posted on 01/24/2002 5:42:21 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: JMJ333
"are sending a signal to the youth of this country that it is an acceptable and legitimate lifestlye"

By making everything public and passing laws about it, we are sending the very clear message that the only thing that is really true is democracy ... if the majority thinks it is ok then it is ok. That message undercuts everything else you may or may not want to teach children.
42 posted on 01/24/2002 5:53:09 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: JMJ333
"Laziness, losing your sexual inhibitions, gluttony are vices, not virtues."

Smoking pot is a miniscule factor in the level of those vices in modern America.
43 posted on 01/24/2002 5:55:02 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: JMJ333
but I'm not in favor of of removing the stigmatism from two men performing anal sex with one another.

You are perfectly free to stigmatize it, protest against it, refuse to associate with those who engage in it, preach against the dangers of it, or do anything else which does not violate rights.

But you are not free (nor is the state) to restrain the private sexuality of consenting adults.

44 posted on 01/24/2002 5:55:40 AM PST by OWK
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To: JMJ333
I'm not in favor of of removing the stigmatism from two men performing anal sex with one another.

There was a time when a majority of people didn't want to remove the stigmatism of interracial marriage. Many would probably still like to see it outlawed. That doesn't make it right.

You're trying to de-humanize homosexuals by focusing on one sex act, mitigating the fact that many can and do live in committed and loving relationships.

I'm sure you don't define your marriage by what sex acts you and your wife perform.

45 posted on 01/24/2002 6:03:15 AM PST by tdadams
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To: Claud
There is a freedom to commit sodomy? Odd...I don't recall reading that in the Federalist Papers.

So you would say our only freedoms are those explicitly stated by our Founding Fathers? That's an odd way of looking at things.

46 posted on 01/24/2002 6:04:05 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: wwjdn
I say jail all openly homosexuals if they refuse to go back to normal moral lifestyle.

Would you jail all heterosexuals who commit sexual acts other than normal intercourse?

47 posted on 01/24/2002 6:11:14 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: OWK
But you are not free (nor is the state) to restrain the private sexuality of consenting adults.

Show me where I endorsed that?

48 posted on 01/24/2002 6:13:17 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: tdadams
There was a time when a majority of people didn't want to remove the stigmatism of interracial marriage. Many would probably still like to see it outlawed. That doesn't make it right.

You're comparing a heterosexual married relationship between people of mixed races, to homosexual behavior? The two aren't even close to being comparable.

You're trying to de-humanize homosexuals by focusing on one sex act, mitigating the fact that many can and do live in committed and loving relationships.

It is not me who seeks to define myself by my sexual behavior. The homosexual community insists that we shall accept their lifestyle, now matter how "de-humanizing" it is. They degrade themselves and insist that I close my eyes and pretend it isn;t what it is.

I'm sure you don't define your marriage by what sex acts you and your wife perform.

I'm a woman. Sex act??? What happened to love?

49 posted on 01/24/2002 6:20:50 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Show me where I endorsed that?

I didn't suggest that you did.

I was restating a position I agreed with, for emphasis.

50 posted on 01/24/2002 6:24:19 AM PST by OWK
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To: wwjdn
ATT is a sick and immoral corporation. We keep being told that it is a behind the door issue. I say jail all openly homosexuals if they refuse to go back to normal moral lifestyle.

That statement, if not made in jest, is the sign of a sick and immoral person.

51 posted on 01/24/2002 6:31:43 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: JMJ333
You're comparing a heterosexual married relationship between people of mixed races, to homosexual behavior? The two aren't even close to being comparable.

I'm alluding to societal attitudes toward each, which are remarkably similar.

I'm a woman. Sex act??? What happened to love?

My apologies for assuming you're male. But let me remind you that you're the one that reduced this conversation to focus on a sex act (with your reference to anal sex), so I don't see where you have grounds to be getting righteously indignant.

52 posted on 01/24/2002 6:33:12 AM PST by tdadams
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To: wwjdn
I beg to differ, we are not free to do anything we like because it feels good. Show me that in our Constitution.

You seem to be confused about the nature of the constitution. Perhaps you should study it before you make inane staements like that.

53 posted on 01/24/2002 6:50:26 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: tdadams
That is an invented phrase used by the left to drive religion out of America.

Who on the left invented it? Time for a history check.

54 posted on 01/24/2002 6:55:00 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: wwjdn
The right to practice religion freely was never intended to be freedom from any religion.

Where do you get this stuff? You have a vivid imagination.

Does WWJDN mean what I think it does? Please explain what those letters stand for.

55 posted on 01/24/2002 6:58:29 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Maybe my comments about the origin of that phrase could have been misinterpreted. The phrase was coined by your namesake Thomas, but the secular left has taken it as their gospel and have tried to supplant the meaning of the 1st Amendment with it.
56 posted on 01/24/2002 7:01:47 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
The phrase was coined by your namesake Thomas, but the secular left has taken it as their gospel and have tried to supplant the meaning of the 1st Amendment with it.

I agree. People can be relyed upon to twist things to their own meanings. They do it with the constitution all the time, the right as well as the left.

57 posted on 01/24/2002 7:13:45 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: tdadams
I'm alluding to societal attitudes toward each, which are remarkably similar.

So? Concrete truths exist. Can you name one benefit our society if we normalize homosexual behavior?

My apologies for assuming you're male. But let me remind you that you're the one that reduced this conversation to focus on a sex act (with your reference to anal sex), so I don't see where you have grounds to be getting righteously indignant.

Actually, I wasn't the first one on the thread to bring up this subject...

There is a freedom to commit sodomy? Odd...I don't recall reading that in the Federalist Papers.

Have you ever comitted sodomy? I'd bet serious money that you have. 38 posted on 1/24/02 6:03 AM Pacific by OWK
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I'm not righeously indignant. I asked you a question. Do you have an answer?

58 posted on 01/24/2002 8:40:14 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: NittanyLion; wwjdn
Would you jail all heterosexuals who commit sexual acts other than normal intercourse?

Don't expect a response any time soon...

59 posted on 01/24/2002 8:52:34 AM PST by Cu Roi
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To: OWK
I see you are back to name calling again. Hitler was homsexual,a dn he tried to kill all Jews becuase they were Christian.... you seem to support his ideas more than me.
60 posted on 01/24/2002 8:58:15 AM PST by wwjdn
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