Skip to comments.Missing Danielle Parents Allegedly Swingers
Posted on 02/11/2002 5:06:42 PM PST by Petronski
Larry asked them about it just now on Larry King Live (2-11-2), and they refused to deny it.
When we're done there, we're going to send everybody to Bible reeducation camps. Failing is no option, it's pass or die.
Really, you say we sound hysterical (laughing)
Yep, we'll have to deal with them too. Maybe we'll make them wear burkas, and circumcise them to keep 'em nice and docile. Like those, those.........
.......those Taliban. You know, the guys the libertines defend at every corner.
The only thing that makes sense here is the father called the alarm company and told them it was a false alarm. Otherwise they would have either send somebody out,or called the cops.
I think we can all agree that if you wake up in the middle of the night to find a door open and that your alarm was tripped, and you don't check your children (the girl being a sleepwalker, no less) to see if they're OK, that is not the most parentally responsible act, wouldn't you say?
I'd say it's totally inexcuseable. This doesn't mean he was a accomplice,though.
Whether they were having an orgy or playing chess in their garage is immaterial to their irresponsibility for not checking on their kids.
Absolutely agree 100% here. This should be as automatic as putting your pants or glasses on. It's inexcuseable that he didn't check on them.
No,I've got a huge chip on my shoulder when it comes to seeing people try to compare/equate consesual adult hetrosexual sex acts with hetrosexual or homosexual child rape and murder. And when it comes to sex with a child,it is ALWAYS rape.
Not only that,but most of us prefer to charm a woman into having sex with us,not beat or choke her into submission.
I'm not making that arguement because I don't care one way or the other about swinging. What I do care about is protecting children,not trying to make cheap political points off their fear and suffering.
Number one, this is an allegation made by a talk show host from "unnamed sources" it has about as much credibility as a Clinton denial. Number 2, and I remind you, the accusations that these parents have lied or decieved the police thus far have not had any merit, they both took lie detector tests and passed them within 24 hours of the child going missing. Number 3, I am not arguing bring strangers into ones home is a risk, with or without children. However there is NO EVIDENCE that these parents have done anything wrong, and it is despicable to watch such mob mentality in action. I said before I will say it again, if they did something that placed their child at risk I will be the first to condemn them, however being a "swinger" should this unsubstantiated allegation turn out to be true, does not by default make one a bad parent, no more than going to a bar by default does. I see a lot of assumptions, mob mentality and rumor... I see nothing of facts here.
And you don't even know what a "liberal" is.
The operative word in that sentence is MAY it is a shame that many here, and apparently yourself, have turned that "MAY" into DID.... When there is nothing of factual basis to even support the parents even are swingers in the first place, much less that if they are that it contributed to their child's disappearance. Those of us who understand the meaning of the word MAY and MIGHT do not jump to conclusions by assuming they mean "DID".
If these parents DID place their children at risk, I will condemn them for it. But I am not going to do so based on some talk show host and internet prattle.
While you are 100% correct, you will never convince most on this board.
Whatever happened to this child, it has nothing to do with swinging, and a lot to do with irresponsibility.
Yes, I do.........and there is nothing 'liberal' about what is called a liberal today. They are totalitarians.
.........and swinging is not irresponsible, especially when kids are involved? Really?
Please note the post below. It is a cut and paste of YOUR post #571. I really don't expect much out of you,but you could at least try to keep up with your own posts.
The guy from Sears does not knock on my door unannounced. There is an appointment made. My husband, or some other family member, is here when he arrives. It is fairly well-known that appliance repairmen are frequently ex-felons. I do not allow them in my home unless someone is with me. I won't discuss other self-protection measures we take, but trust me, we take them.
571 posted on 2/12/02 9:28 AM Pacific by golitely
Let's start here, you don't know jacksh*t about me. I do know something about you however, you are a pompous ass, and huge bore.
"He Rides A White Horse" indeed, a little full of yourself maybe? I have read the Bible, in more than one language as a matter of fact, and find myself at odds with judgemental pr*cks like yourself, who believe that they are better than the rest.
Here's a newsflash for you HRAWH, in THIS country people are not subject to the kind of witch hunt that you are carrying on. The fact of the matter is, that you do not have a a single shred of evidence that anything at all happened that night, you are making it all up. Busy spreading vile rumors.
You know what? You are a bigger sinner than this couple. Your sin is arrogance.
I never doubted it.
I am going to let that one slide, that's way below you, dangerously aproaching the status of others on this thread.
I could not help but noticing however, that you did not reply to the fact that what you told me was information you picked up from posted news articles, where in fact rumours, and you have been in fact spreading unsubstantiated garbage.
Really? Because I don't agree with you? Hmmmm......
"He Rides A White Horse" indeed, a little full of yourself maybe? I have read the Bible, in more than one language as a matter of fact
Is that so? Then why would you make a stupid comment that implies that I think I am the "rider on the white horse".......it's from Revelation......the Rider on the White Horse is Jesus Christ, not me.
Here's a newsflash for you HRAWH, in THIS country people are not subject to the kind of witch hunt that you are carrying on. The fact of the matter is, that you do not have a a single shred of evidence that anything at all happened that night, you are making it all up.
I'm not making anything up. Go read my last post to you, and then tell me what I made up.
You know what? You are a bigger sinner than this couple. Your sin is arrogance.
Wishing it was doesn't make it so.......go read the posts again.......in a language that enables you to actually understand what you've seen.
Mr. Spock you are not.
......oh, and what is that, Luis? That a door ajar at 2AM is no cause for consternation. That Dad has some dopey, Johnny Cochranesque prepared statement? That swinging is a responsible thing from a Christian standpoint? Tell me Pharisee of many languages (they were oh so 'educated' also), what is it you are objecting to? Hmmmm..........?
Under a Biblical definition, it's called adultery. Which is a sin in God's eyes.
......or has that changed, Luis?
Uh, HELLO out there, anybody home?
Is swinging considered irresponsible by Catholic teaching, Rome 2000? Anyone?.........and if so, what are some of the possible repercussions?
19:12 His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all [men, both] free and bond, both small and great.
19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Here it is in English........why I chose my screenname.
People go around promoting this hippy flower child version of Jesus............"hey man, you want to continue living in your sins, and teaching evil things, well, it's all groooovy, 'cuz Jesus loves you man, and anything you do is "okay with Big J", dig?"
No friend, he came the first time to tell us what He expected from us; to instruct us in the Way of the Word.........next time it won't be so pleasant.
So go ahead and continue with your moral relativity. Teach others the same nonsense.
Apparently, your child might disappear.
Thanks for the warning.
.......or maybe you simply weren't listening.
19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 19:12 His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
This is one of my most favorite Bible passages. The picture so often presented of the Lord Jesus Christ, is the gentle Savior...and so He is for those who receive the salvation He offers..
However, after His triumph, and ascent to Heaven, his disciples did not call Him Jesus...but Lord Jesus. How often it is forgotten that the last picture we have of the Lord Jesus Christ is in Revelation 19. I never forgot...He is my Savior...but to His enemies, His robe is dipped in blood.
He is NOT the coming King...but the King who will come again.
Here, let's make it really easy for you.......
Mom and Dad have kids. Mom and Dad have multiple sex partners within confines of their marriage. Kids find out. Kids wonder why Mom and Dad do such things. Why does Mom do things with other men that the church teaches is wrong? Why does Dad do the same. Little kids really confused now. Screwed up real good. You don't see that?...........(good God).......
Unless the kid was brought up in the church I highly doubt this will be a question asked.
You are actually aroused I think. Sexually excited at the fact that you can pass judgement on others.
You are what is wrong with religion.
Actually, you are. It says so. Read up on it......in whatever language you are most comfortable with.
I lost a good friend in Junior High School, she was molested by her stepfather, one hand on the Bible, the other on her breast.
Since you are such a master, you really must show me where in the Bible it says this is a good thing. That is if you can get up enough spine to make a moral choice.
What dirty little secrets are floating around in your skeleton? Like my friend golitely says "projecting".
I see women in a much better light than you obviously.
I get it now, the girl ran away because the Church told her that her parents were perverts.
Thanks for clearing this up.
I'm going to watch some Olympic Curling now.
Another made-up assumption? Some more character assasination? Your specialty I see. What statement that I have made even begins to give you some sort of base for that last piece of dreg from your degenerate mind?
As long as we are being judgemental about parents whose lifestyle choices endanger their children's lives, I say that we take kids from those parents who will not allow medical treatment for them based on religious beliefs.
Pretty darned irresponsible of parents to let kids die for want of a simple injection, wouldn't you say?
You MUST be lying. We all know that NO Bible believing man would molest anyone! And certainly not a heterosexual either! < /sarcasm>
Remember Klinton saying a BJ is not sex? Eric said that swapping is not adultery. It is the same reasoning.
Everyone is talking a lot of talk.
I find the loops and turns this thread has taken somewhat curious. This sentence you wrote struck a chord with me..taking me back to just about where the loops and turns of this thread began.
My original question on the whole thing, was how could a lifestyle that parents felt compelled to hide or conceal from their children, be defensible? I asserted that a lifestyle that needs to be hidden from one's children is a lifestyle that calls for a re-examination.
You said that the child ran away when she found out her parents were perverts. I said that a child is fantastice at seeing and hearing things that parents would rather they not hear and see. I said there is usually consequences when the child discovers that Mom and Dad have presented them with a false facade..most often a feeling of betrayal, anger and alienation.
Those that defend and those that oppose marital "swinging" all seem to acknowlege that it is not healthy for the children of that marriage...
This is the only logical reason why parents would want to conceal it from their children....no matter how much they may defend it. In the end...they do not want their children to know.
If these parents engage in the swinging lifestyle, I am sure that a good part of the reason why they have neither ackowleged it or denied it, is that they do not want their two sons to know about it. Fat chance of that. If the sons have been going to school during this difficult time, they have probably heard all about it by now.
Very sad for those boys and that little girl who is probably long dead, by now.
Nothing I would do.
Where exactly does he do that?
Oh! wait! You know these things!
The voices in your head tell you.