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Shays-Meehan Floor Debate - FREEDOM OF SPEECH SMACKDOWN!
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| February 13, 2002
| dittomom
Posted on 02/13/2002 6:12:42 AM PST by dittomom
Post your accounts and reactions to the debate on Shays Meehan (H.R. 2356) Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2001 - C-SPAN is covering the floor debate this morning!!
...CLICK HERE for a list of previous posts on Campaign Finance Reform...
...and if you haven't already....
Call Congress Toll Free #'s 1-800-648-3516 and 1-877-762-8762
and tell them to VOTE NO ON HR 2356!!!!
TOPICS: Announcements; Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; silenceamerica
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To: DallasJ7
Recorded vote coming up on the Watts Amendment...
First amendment from our side was presented by Henry Hyde and dealt with the first amendment. Second amendment brought up on side dealt with the second amendment...This amendment was about civil rights...I don't know what the other amendments will be...
To: Right_in_Virginia
Bush is playing a poker game. Keeping the Reformers/Socialists guessing about what he'll do. But he said he'd sign a reasonable bill. So far, I don't think this bill is reasonable...
To: dittomom
Boy, I hope you're right. This bill is awful...and insulting, to boot.
To: Right_in_Virginia
There's no way to be sure...As someone said earlier, he is trying to get Congress to do their job. If they are so deadset on Campaign Reform, then they've gotta hash it out and send it to him. We've gotta let Congress know what we think - while we still can!!!
To: Mo1
I can't believe the commie bast@#%$ congress voted against the first and second ammendments to try to pass unamerican laws.THEY must be voted out of office post haste.
745
posted on
02/13/2002 3:25:32 PM PST
by
Rook
To: Rook
The votes on these amendments are a very instructive exercise. We're gonna know where they all stand...
To: dittomom
Yes we are. Its what's called a thrown game right? You don't need to bother waiting for the results. You know what the votes are gonna be even before they've been cast. Its a foregone conclusion.
To: jwalsh07
Nice thoughtful job on post 740. FR at it's best, jwalsh!
Sure ... we Americans my be losing our basic Constitutional protections and institutions. But hey! We're inventing bogus Olympic snow boarding events up the ying yang!
How much Mountain Dew can John Doolittle move?
To: ArneFufkin
How much Mountain Dew can John Doolittle move? LOL! Just lost my Mountain Dew in the keyboard!!!
Roy Blunt just said most of his constituents don't even care about CFR.
To: dittomom
what happened with the Watts amendment? failed, right?
To: jwalsh07
The 10 points miss the essential issue, and are thus to some extent creating a strawman and knocking it down. We do all know what the central issue is here don't we?
751
posted on
02/13/2002 3:36:55 PM PST
by
Torie
To: rwfromkansas
I don't have a vote total here but your guess is as good as mine.
To: dittomom
Surprise, surprise, Watts amendment to protect minorities rights fails...
YEA - 185 NAY - 237
Bringing House back to order for the next amendment...
To: jwalsh07
I have such little faith in the people who represent our citizens in Congresss that I am absolutely sure that 420 of the 435 House members voting on this issue have spent 1/100th of the time that you have analyzing the ramifications of the bill.
They have no idea what they're voting on. They care only about their hometown papers and their November election. Parliament of Whores.
To: Torie
Of course. Its giving congresscritters the right to lord it over the rest of us. And they're not even bothering to pretend its for the people or even for the children, for that matter.
To: dittomom
SHAYS side is offering up an amendment, presented by Miss Capato...
To: Torie
The central issue is whether or not the federal government will regulate political speech in open defiance of the First Amendment to the Constitution.
To: dittomom
And this deals with what do you know?
To: goldstategop
Amendment presented by Shelley Capito of West Virginia (R)
Triples hard money contributions through matching funds...her intention is to encourage all candidates to play by the same rules...YEAH RIGHT!!!
To: counterrevolutionary
They already erased that and the Second Amendment and they'd be too happy to junk the rest of the bill of rights if it helped their quest for absolute power. They're drunk right now with the heady sensation that comes with knowing that at this stage, they're unstoppable.
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