Invitation to FR Catholics and Interested Friends

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[melsec]

More power to you brothers and sisters. Am offering up prayers for you now. Why didn't I see this sort of stuff when I was brought up Catholic. I firmly beleive the only way to change society is one heart at a time turned towards Jesus.

God Bless you all

Mel

[Askel5]

Cool ... maybe next year. This year looks like it's going to be a tight group who can at least put some flesh on the bones of the idea for next year, come up with a decent body of materials and perhaps strategize an online resource for us built around what we do best here.

[Askel5]

I firmly beleive the only way to change society is one heart at a time turned towards Jesus.

Hear hear ... it's an each one save one world.

Cheers.

[ThomasMore]

Try this website...

Christ's Faithful People

Authors and Books...

Steven Schwarz: "The Moral Question of Abortion"
Servais Pinckaers: "The Sources of Christian Ethics"
Romanus Cessario and J.A. Di Noia: "Veritatis splendor and the Renewal of Moral Theology"

Jacques Maritain: "Redeeming the Time" and all others
Etienne Gilson: "The Christian Philosophy of St. Thomas Aquinas"

[Askel5]

What's not to like about a site that features PetersNet!

Thanks very much for the link. (This thread's proving quite a boon to my "Resources" page.)

[neocon]

By way of a bump, I'll also suggest these books:

The Love of Learning and the Desire for God, by Jean LeClerq,

Western Ascetism by Owen Chadwick,

and

E. Michael Jones' trilogy:
Degenerate Moderns on the cultural revolution of the early 20th century,
Dionysus Rising on music and Wagner's relationship to Nietzsche and Hitler,
and
Living Machines on Walter Gropius and the Bauhaus movement, available from Ignatius Press.

[Askel5]

You have mail!

[Askel5]

Slight change to the schedule ... St. Patrick's Day Mass is at 12:00 ... I think this allows time for brunch after the Latin Mass and the option of heading back.

Poor Fr. White ... after all these years of complaining (in an Irish brogue, no less) that the church was no place for singing Irish tunes before Mass, they are cutting the more secular songfest and stocking my folder with more suitably traditional music. =)

[Askel5]

cc: All RSVPs and Potential Attendees to date.

Given the numbers (or lack of same =) so far, an excellent opportunity to strategize a plan for the continued viability of our merry little band of activists, newshounds and apologists ... come what may.

All that in mind, I shall get permission to announce it in the bulletin this weekend, plug it at the Latin Mass, Notre Dame seminary and those I know will be interested in my catechism class, Young Adults and the choir. Sounds ambitious but I'm closing it at 27 total, including us, so we're comfortable in the double parlour and I can swing providing breakfast and afternoon refreshments for folks.

I'm thinking we can meet at PJ's coffee shop on the corner. Starting with Mass would be great but there's one at 5:30 we can attend instead that day and I figure it's quite possible we'll be up late talking and perhaps having a few spirits with our after-supper coffee the night before ...

We can then host the working sessions from 10-4 with boxed lunches at 1:00. (Small fee to cover a set of notebook/outlines I'll provide, box lunch and a donation to St. Pat's for letting us use the space.) RSVP's will be essential so I've got sufficient notebooks on hand.

(I'm happy to offer to burn CD's of the presentations themselves which also include outlines and the array -- thus far -- of FR human life and and apologetics threads I've saved to disk to use at St. Pat's for those attendees and FR folks who are interested. We can discuss that later.)

I'm always happy to speak on human life but I thought (given the Archbishop's letter in the Clarion and the fact we'll have some interested New Orleanians and perhaps a few seminarians present) perhaps I could introduce and moderate a discussion on married priests, homosexuality and the Boston Scandal to get things off to a rousing start after lunch break.

I'd rather prepare hard copy on the human life issues, invite folks to take a look at same if the they've got the chance during lunch and simply point out some highlights and field a few questions, if any, before we have a Rosary for Life and closing prayer by 3:30.

This give folks -- including the priests, if they are there -- to be finished in time for the 4:00 Vigil Mass. It give us the opportunity for an hour or so of post mortem, tidying up and brainstorming before 5:30 Mass.

I see no reason we shouldn't invite anyone who's interested to stick around and sit in ... this hour can cover whatever we like but I'm definitely interested in designing a little website for FR's militant Catholics and fellow activist and apologist Christians and friends of all faiths.

I think it would be nice to have a touchstone up and running so we can stay connected for purposes of activism, camaraderie and build a body of readily available data and research and/or activist assistance and alerts as is possible.

With any luck, we can get the priests or some of the attendees to join us for supper that evening if they can't make the party on Sunday evening. We'll play food and drink by ear but I'll come prepared for contingencies ... in case there's a critical need for wine or refreshments. =)

I guess I just need to know what we're going to call ourselves. Any ideas?

It would behoove ANYONE who has a suggestion to write in. Once upon a time, my sister and I became editors of the diocesan youth newsletter. We held a contest to name the thing but no one responded so it remained The Newsletter With No Name (masthead featuring my spaghetti-western inspired logo with curl of smoke and a Clint Eastwood cigar =) for the rest of our tenure. A cult classic ... particularly our "The Making of the Newsletter with No Name" issue.

I guess, in the wake of Vatican II, there was the occasional upside where lax supervision and free rein were concerned. It was a fine little newsletter but we had altogether too much fun composing it.

[Romulus]

We'll play food and drink by ear

I'm bringing my famous jambalaya.

[Askel5]

To the party?

[Romulus]

Whatever. Where d'you think it'd be most useful and most easily served?

[Askel5]

My house ... =)

I'm thinking we should stick to stuff that needs only cups, napkins and coffee stirrers for the Rectory.

[Dumb_Ox]

I guess I just need to know what we're going to call ourselves. Any ideas?

Rummy Romanist Rebels?

[Askel5]

Oh my gosh ... looks like afternoon refreshments will include one of my famous Puerto Rican Rum cheesecakes!

I shall start working on a Triple R seal we can use for official correspondence ... regardless what title we choose!

Thanks Dumb_Ox.

[Rambler]

Could I be added to the list? thanks.

[leilani]

I'm not on your list, but I am Catholic and I am from New Orleans, & although I'm not there anymore, I think my Mom would LOVE to come to this seminar at St Pat's. She's not a freeper, wouldn't even know what one was, - is she welcome anyway?

[Askel5]

OF COURSE. We would love to have her! Let me know if she can come and I'll reserve a place for her. I'm glad you wrote. Come Sunday, I may open what slots are left for those here in town I think would be interested.

[alcuin]

Sounds worthwhile.

Yes, I'm serious.

[Askel5]

Thank you very much. That means a lot.

(Yes, I'm shaken ... =)

[Askel5]

Talking at the Rectory today, there may be something in the budget for a little reception Friday night beforehand. I said I'd prefer that all come out of my pocket.

As I've got to have RSVP's in order to mail out binders in advance, shouldn't be too difficult to get the curious over for a little wine and cheese Friday night.

[Romulus]

a little wine and cheese

You're dairy-free and I'm on the wagon? Some swell party, huh? ;-)

[Askel5]

I'll drink to your having some cheese for me!

(Sunday is still a free day.)

[Fred Mertz]

Askel,

I'm going to attend a black tie event locally on March 16. The event(s) will be addressed by VP Dick Cheney via live webcast.

So, I must send my regrets. I'm on the wagon for Lent, too, and I'd be no fun. Thanks for putting this together. Best wishes.

[Askel5]

You sure an event like that won't be the far greater risk for falling off the wagon?

I'd probably break fast just thinking about having to go. =)

[Askel5]

(Patent -- could you hit your bump list ... I'm sure I have already flagged a couple but I resisted the urge to flag those I could see on your flaglist.)

First, I want to thank everyone who's taken the time to drop links or suggestions, or prayers thus far.

Second, I wish to ask YET MORE FAVORS ... =)

• One of our group had the fine idea to begin a novena to St. Patrick this Saturday. I think I shall join in that effort and know we all will appreciate any prayers offered on our behalf.

• While I intend to turn Dumb_Ox's idea into a little seal of sorts for our little societe's Official Stuff, I am desperate for a name!

  -- Latin seems best ... but it has to be somewhat simple, like "[In Defense of] Fides et Ratio" (N.B., no, I am not above incoporating "Fides et Ratio" into our name so we pop up regularly on searches.)
  
  -- I'd like to keep us close to the top of the alphabet ... use of apologia might help.
  
  -- It would be cool if we could distinguish ourselves as cyber warriors of a sort but not absolutely necessary given that it will be obvious the moment folks check us out.
  
  -- I'd like to pick a patron saint. We can jump the gun and choose St. Isidore, if you like. He's been touted as a potential patron of all things cyberspace. Or, we can entertain other candidates. (This is not as critical as the 5:00 pm deadline).
  
  

  and, last but DEFINITELY NOT LEAST

• Please SPAM THIS THREAD with links (or even just the titles, for searching purposes) of your favorite threads over the years. I shall be putting many of these on diskettes for those attending the symposium and will be caching same at whatever website we rustle up thereafter. Should make for an excellent resource. <>

Thank you again for your help.

ATTENDEES:

Spoke with Fr. Klores and the folks in the Rectory today. Father is happy to begin the Symposium with a Mass. Folks can dig into coffee and pastries as I make some opening comments and we each pitch the internet as the premium took of apologetics at present (as coupled with face-to-face, each one save one solidarity =)

• THURSDAY --
  Everyone appears to be arriving on Thursday. I suggest we meet at the Napoleon House after supper (and my choir rehearsal) that night for a visit. Napoleon House is on Chartres about smack dab between St. Patrick's Church and my house.

• FRIDAY --
  Looks like Friday morning is best for meeting the priests and having Mass. I think we should meet bright and early for Mass and treat the Rectory and staff to breakfast. This way everyone's got the rest of the day to do as they please or hang out on my porch. I'm happy to give a little city tour (drawing on my old Destination Management days) for anyone who'd like one that morning.

  Perhaps we could all drive to Sid-Mar's on Lake Pontchartrain for a seafood supper and Dixie beers that night.

• SATURDAY --
  (agenda to follow).

• SUNDAY --
  your choice of Latin Mass at 9:30 or the patronal feastday Mass (Archbishop Hughes presiding). I shall be at both and the choir will be singing at 11:00. Perhaps brunch afterwards and a free afternoon. My St. Patrick's Day party should begin around dusk and the Downtown Irish Club parade will roll on Royal a block away sometime between 7 and 8.

  (N.B. I will not be driving anyone anywhere that night so you'll have to cab it uptown unless Romulus keeps his Lenten obligations on Sunday after all.)

• MONDAY --
  Everyone's free to sleep in, do last-minute shopping or attend early Mass at St. Mary's (a few blocks from my house) or St. Louis Cathedral. Perhaps a late lunch at Galatoire's or Mr. B's to cap the weekend.

  I have taken the day off to cover airport duty that afternoon and will stick around until the last pilgrim departs.

See you soon!

[Askel5]

Hey ... how to you say Catholic Action in Latin?

[Askel5]

Well, at least I know what my MINIMUM measure of appeal will be ...

Frankly, I really like Conspiratio Sine Nomine.

And, hey, what's not to like? ...
Latin, top of the alphabet (without being too pushy) and a nod of sorts to the (old) FR on which we met. =)

[Askel5]

Between Conspiratio Sine Nomine and our mysterious tridentine "R" emblem, we'll have the Revolution shaking in its collective boots, I bet. =)

[Askel5]

conspiratio -onis f. [blowing or breathing together; harmony , agreement, union]; in bad sense, [conspiracy, plot].

I really like it. Buncha blowhards stumped for a name to call themselves. Perfect.

A certain truth in advertising where the "bad sense" is concerned. Damn straight we're "plotting". =)

[ELS]

LOL! It works for me.

[patent]

I’ll need some Latin help, but a couple suggestions.

Association of Digital Apologetics (how do you say digital in Latin?)

Faith and Internet (Fides et Internet)

Curmudgeons who care -- not related to the internet, but perhaps accurate? ;-)

Association Seeking to Keep Evangelization Live (ASKEL)

Dominus Vobiscum

patent  +AMDG

[Askel5]

Association Seeking to Keep Evangelization Live (ASKEL)

Hysterical! Particularly considering the fact I showed up as some traditionally reared but decidedly "they will know we are Christians by our Luv" Catholic and poo-pooed proselytization and such until the likes of Campion, Eastsider and Royalist got a hold of me.

[Askel5]

Do you? I must admit I do too. =)

One hour to go before I draft a bit of copy for the bulletin. To be honest, the name gives me the perfect in to explain a bit about us as I launch into the topics we'll be presenting.

[Alkhin]

Before I request being added to the bump list, does one have to be ROMAN Catholic to join this list? I am ANGLICAN Catholic (NOT Episcopalian). I am a little tired of RCers going bug-eyed because I make this differentiation.

[Askel5]

Of course not! I personally would love to have non-Catholics on the bumplist.

A pity you're not coming. Sounds like you could start some interesting conversations. =)

[ELS]

Hmm, the Italian phrase for "Internet" is rete mondiale (worldwide network). Perhaps the Latin is close?

[Askel5]

Romulus votes for a simple and straightforward "Conspiratio" ... (letting the word -- with all its layers of meaning -- intrigue folks).

Looks like these layers will provide a certain structure for my opening comments ... with particular mention of the Holy Spirit on whom we rely as a rule to "breathe as one".

Cool. Going to write my copy now and begin preparing what will I trust will become the bones of our webpages and graphics in short order post-symposium.

[patent]

I tried to figure it out. I want to the Vatican page that had all the documents they just put out regarding the internet, but they didn't have one in latin. The one in Italian (and most languages for that matter) used the word "internet" in the title, just like we would in English. I don't have any idea if that is the common usage.

patent

[Terriergal]

Catholic Action restores society by converting it to Christ.

I always find it funny when people get scared at statements like this from the Catholic and Protestant churches, as if you are intending to do make conversions at gunpoint.

[Askel5]

SYMPOSIUM -- March 16, 2000 (10:00 am - 4:00 pm)

Conspiratio
"blowing or breathing together; harmony, agreement, union"
Members of ConSpiratio -- a loosely-knit group of traditional Catholic lay apologists from across the nation who defend the faith on Internet political forums -- extend to all an invitation to join them in a day of prayer, mini-presentations and discussion of Catholic Action. The symposium will be held in the newly renovated rooms of St. Patrick's Rectory on Saturday, March 16, 2002.

The day will begin with Mass at 10:00 am. Lunch and reference materials will be provided. Mini-presentation topics include Human Life, the crisis of sexual scandal (and its bearing on the argument for celibacy), the use of technology for evil, monarchy, the true legacy of Pope Pius XII and the co-opting of faith for political purpose.

Space is limited. Please contact the Rectory for reservations.

I've told them NO MORE than 27 ... even if some of Fr. Klores's folks plan on attending for only the talks in which they're interested. (Not to worry, we'll order them such that it'll be nearly impossible to pick and choose ... =)

[patent]

Spousal bump.

[Askel5]

I hope you don't mind my leaving off the comparison of Catholicism/Quantum Theory & Mechanics to Newtonian Theory/Protestantism-Determinism. Many folks with whom I've been talking are definitely intrigued by the idea but it might scare others ... =)

[patent]

I'm intrigued.

[ELS]

I don't have any idea if that is the common usage.

Well, the Italians have a bad habit, IMO, of using American (English) words rather than coining an Italian equivalent. A while (one to three years) ago, when I was doing a better job of maintaining my knowledge of Italian, rete mondiale was the way of referencing the Internet. They have probably gotten lazy and adopted "Internet". :-(

[patent]

>>>>Well, the Italians have a bad habit, IMO, of using American (English) words rather than coining an Italian equivalent.

That's too bad, I kind of prefer that other countries keep their own languages. It's nice to have hope that, one day when I visit, I will actually have a decent excuse for why no one can understand me.

[Askel5]

I can't wait! It's the math, baby.

[ELS]

it might scare others ... =)

Aw c'mon. It wouldn't scare me since I was planning on becoming an astrophysicist before "life happened." I have come around to the idea that one needs science and religion (Faith and Reason) to have a fuller understanding of the universe. I stated my viewpoint better in If Science Is Conscious of Its Limits…

[Askel5]

Excellent ... thanks, ELS.

[ELS]

I kind of prefer that other countries keep their own languages

Yeah, another example is "weekend". It is possible to see la fine settimana, but far too often one will see il weekend. Italian loses so much of its mellifluousness with this trend.