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Eerie article on Yahoo about the shootdown of KAL 007.
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Posted on 02/13/2002 9:03:16 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

Tuesday February 12, 3:16 pm Eastern Time Press Release SOURCE: International Committee for the Rescue of KAL 007 Survivors

Researcher Wants KAL 007 Crash Re-Opened: Will Present Evidence, Petitions in Washington WASHINGTON, Feb. 12 /PRNewswire/ -- Bert Schlossberg, a scholar from Israel, will present evidence on Thursday that contradicts the accepted theory that all passengers died on Korean Airlines #007 in 1983.

Schlossberg has spent 10 years researching the mysterious crash of the jet, and has formed a new committee to bring public attention to his findings. He and several others will hold a News Conference at 10:00 a.m. on Thursday, February 14, at the Army & Navy Club, 901 17th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. After the briefing they will deliver petitions, addressed to President Bush and President Vladimir Putin, to the White House and the Russian Embassy asking them to find out what happened to the 240 passengers and 29 crew members aboard the plane.

Nearly all aboard the jet, which was hit by a Soviet missile, vanished without a trace. The cabin of the aircraft was discovered largely intact in shallow water, but contained just one body. 61 American citizens were aboard the flight, including Congressman Larry McDonald (D-GA), nationally known for his anti-communist views.

Bert Schlossberg who formed the International Committee for the Rescue of KAL 007 Survivors last year, is the son-in-law of passenger Alfredo Cruz of New York. The Committee has many supporters among the relatives of the passengers. His book, ``Rescue 007, The Untold Story of KAL 007 and its Survivors'' (Xlibris 2001), presents evidence for his premise:

1) The cockpit voice recorder demonstrates that one missile hit the rear of the cabin, and a second Soviet missile missed the aircraft completely. The cockpit voice recorder tape, kept secret by the Soviets for many years, revealed that the flight engineer reported all four engines functioning normally after the missiles were fired.

2) Japanese radar showed the plane slowing down as it descended until it went below 1000 feet and was off the radar screen. The descent lasted 12 minutes. Radio intercepts record that Soviet vessels converged on the location where it ditched near Sakhalin, an island near Siberia. Boeing says that it could have remained afloat for an hour if the landing was soft. No big pieces of wreckage, no baggage, and only two bodies were found floating on the ocean. The largely intact cabin contained some personal belongings but no life jackets.

In 1991, Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC) requested information from President Yeltsin on what happened to the rest. If they didn't survive, where are the bodies? The Soviets admitted that they had classified documents, but did not make them available. Since then, there has been no effort to get answers to Senator Helms' questions.


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Would it not be sad and unnerving, if the Soviets had indeed rescued people from that plane crash, only to inprison them for live with no outside communications whatsoever in some godforsaken pit in Northern Siberia?

Is that beyond thought? Or just tin-foil-hat stuff?

I wonder what happened to all the bodies? I had no idea that so few were recovered...

1 posted on 02/13/2002 9:03:16 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Interesting post.
2 posted on 02/13/2002 9:13:50 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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This is just tin foil hat stuff. I don't believe that the Soviets missile missed and that KAL 007 landed quitely off Sakhalin Island and they took survivors. Our intelligence was too good to miss that one.
3 posted on 02/13/2002 9:14:56 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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I'd say that it would be pretty hard for anyone to survive the crash. But if anyone did, they would probably meet the same fate that some of our POW/MIA's taken from the Korean and Vietnam wars. I have heard reports that some of them ended up in the Soviet Union at some point after being captured.
4 posted on 02/13/2002 9:16:52 AM PST by Orangedog
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Of course, this could never happen here in the US.
5 posted on 02/13/2002 9:21:56 AM PST by Tymesup
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; KC_Conspirator

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6 posted on 02/13/2002 9:24:44 AM PST by ppaul
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Enlightening. I didn't know there was such a mystery. Wonder if the Soviets recovered some that were alive but killed them instead to prevent anyone talking. What a sad situation to think the Soviets were quite capable of carrying out such a heinous crime.
7 posted on 02/13/2002 9:32:07 AM PST by lilylangtree
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Its a fact that during the Korean War the evil communists imprisoned Americans in the gulags until their death, but I think by the 80's we had excellent intel on them. We would have probably sighted this from our birds and we also had direct intelligence from a large undersea "bug" we placed on their main communciation line running under the Oktosk Sea (Sp?).
8 posted on 02/13/2002 9:35:11 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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As I recall, baggage and wreckage washed ashore on Hokkaido for weeks afterward. This contradicts the author's statement that no baggage or wreckage was recovered.
9 posted on 02/13/2002 9:38:41 AM PST by Redcloak
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At the time, my boss assured me that the aircraft was shot down b/c the GA Congressman was carrying a list of active American communists--those in government?--who were members of the communist party. That was at a time when it would have meant something. Ordinarily, I would have dismissed his statement, but he was always a reasonable, judicious man who did not make such statements out of the blue. He also had an uncle who had previously worked with Ronald Reagan fighting communism in Hollywood when he was president of the Screen Actors Guild. I can't verify any of what he said, but he seemed to have aa inside track.
10 posted on 02/13/2002 9:41:59 AM PST by twigs
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Is that beyond thought? Or just tin-foil-hat stuff?

I'm pretty sure that, not too many years ago, one would have been accused of being part of the tin-foil-hat brigade if they believed in stories of the government tesing was conducting experiments in the 1950's on unwitting civilians with radioactive material. Or that experiments with LSD were being conducted by the millitary on our enlisted men. Oh, wait. Those things DID happen. Now is it likely that the UN has set up concentration camps and spies on us with black helicopters? Not likely. Governments around the world some pretty kooky and some things that are just down-right evil. Flip a coin. Chances are probably 50-50 that there is something to this KAL 007 thing.

11 posted on 02/13/2002 9:43:39 AM PST by Orangedog
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KAL 007
12 posted on 02/13/2002 9:46:34 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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Its a fact that during the Korean War the evil communists imprisoned Americans in the gulags until their death, but I think by the 80's we had excellent intel on them.

Hard to tell when our government found out about this. If it became public knowledge during the 50's or 60's it's hard to tell what the public reaction in the US would have been and what would have happened.

Could you imagine being in-the-know about this in the Pentagon or CIA, knowing for a fact that our men were being held captive in a Soviet gulag and that the only way to rescue them was to risk WWIII? I imagine knowing some of these things turned at least a few men into alcoholics.

13 posted on 02/13/2002 9:52:12 AM PST by Orangedog
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pretty much tin foil hat stuff.

read the book and also review of it in Japanese. theory is very very far stretched, within opinions here. the flight went down not that far from Japan w/a number of Japanese aboard.....

14 posted on 02/13/2002 10:14:22 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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This was an unfortunate incident for those involved and their families irregardless of what happened to the passengers. This incident was a boom for anti-communist propoganda.

However, when Reagan announced to the world that we had proof, as in radio recordings, it costs all those poor bastards in signal intellegence alot of hard work because the soviets immediately changed all their encryption algorythms. We had busted their codes and were listening in from Alaska and points throughout the western pacific. As soon as Reagan let the world know we had recordings, the ruskies knew we had busted their codes. It took a lot of hard work to bust those codes and this caused a lot of unhapiness in millitary intellegence circles.

15 posted on 02/13/2002 10:16:04 AM PST by ChinaThreat
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FYI
16 posted on 02/13/2002 10:16:58 AM PST by Free the USA
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Our intelligence was too good to miss that one

About as good as preventing September 11.

17 posted on 02/13/2002 10:48:21 AM PST by buccaneer81
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Congressman McDonald was a John Bircher who, along withn Congressman Jim Ryan (Gunned down in the Jim Jones Guyana debacle), wanted to do away with the C.I.A. McDonald was replaced by Newt Ginrich in the house.

Please pass the tin foil to the right Dutchie.

18 posted on 02/13/2002 11:06:53 AM PST by conway
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THank you very much. THis is a very important issue.
19 posted on 02/13/2002 12:44:35 PM PST by Scholastic
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Magic, more question from tin-foil brigade:

1.What was the reason for KAL 007 being delayed in Anchorage?
Was KAL 007 intrusion into Soviet airspace synchronized with Shuttle orbiting above and recording Soviet RADAR response? Yes or no? Can someone provide position of shuttle at the time KAL 007 was shot down to dispel this myth or confirm it as fact?

2. Some sources say there was a dogfight between U.S. and Soviet jets after KAL 007 was shot down. Is it true? Were there any USAF/USN "training accidents" involving jet crews soon afterward?

There could be a lot of reasons for both Ruskies and Americans keeping mum.

20 posted on 02/13/2002 1:29:05 PM PST by DTA
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