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How about the .44 special?
me | 2/19/02 | Detailer

Posted on 02/19/2002 6:45:09 AM PST by DETAILER

Hi everyone- just a short request for info from fellow Freepers. I just got the opportunity to purchase a Charter Arms .44 special bulldog- from a friend that has owned it for years and not shot it in years, who now finds himself in a little cash crunch. I can get it cheap! I've never shot the .44 special and wanted to hear any opinions about it out there. It's a short barrel, I know it won't be accurate much more than room distance, but that's exactly what I want it for. What do you all think?


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To: Lurker
Load it with the 200 grain Speer JHP over 8 grains of Unique.

Ooooof! I guess so... Call ya later...

51 posted on 02/19/2002 4:49:43 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: DETAILER
For home protection you can't beat an Ithica modle 37. It's a 12 ga. pump action shotgun, 27" total length with a pistol grip handle.
52 posted on 02/19/2002 8:46:48 PM PST by ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
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To: Axelsrd
"I am thinking of buying a .40 cal. Any one have any thoughts on the .40???"

I was born and bred a .45 ACP fan. I choked on my first purchase of a .40 S&W. I have since converted. I do consider it a shame the 10mm never caught on. It was initially entertained by the FBI who insisted on some watered down loads...About the same time, the .40 came along, and offered similar performance to the weakened loads, in a shorter case, and subsequently, available in smaller, and more concealable weapons. I'm not trying to imply that the .40 is a pipsqueak, I certainly would not want to be shot with one! Simply that the 10 is a great design, limited only by the fact that it has not caught on, and that has resulted in a dearth of factory ammo, and commercial ammo development. That is not a problem with the .40, as a very large number of civilian law enforcement agencies have embraced it, and it has, in its short life, proven itself time and again, under real world circumstances...

IMHO, one of the best factory pistols on the market today is the...

...Browning Hi-Power...

...chambered in .40S&W.

53 posted on 02/19/2002 9:03:33 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: w_over_w
"It's a great piece, however, it's blast will scare the crap out of both you and any intruder."

Are you sure you're not talking about the .44 magnum? Factory .44 Specials are standard pressure rounds that are easy on the shooter, even when used in lightweight revolvers (like the Charter Arms Bulldog).

54 posted on 11/11/2005 7:02:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: DETAILER
I just bought his today. I already have a taurus 24/7 but this little one is a lot of fun to shoot. I cant bring it home until next thursday. But I can shoot it at the range.


55 posted on 11/11/2005 7:06:01 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: DETAILER
how about this if your looking for a 44


56 posted on 11/11/2005 7:08:47 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: PatrioticAmerican

No way...sneakypete is back?


57 posted on 11/11/2005 7:10:04 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: sparkomatic

What is the advantage to having an unregistered gun?


58 posted on 11/11/2005 7:15:35 PM PST by Eva
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant; DETAILER
Or a Charter Arms Bulldog (22 ozs.)


59 posted on 11/11/2005 7:25:15 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

I have never fire a 44 that thing must have one hell of a kick to it


60 posted on 11/11/2005 7:40:38 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Brewer

"I prefer a 45 ACP or the 45 Long Colt, but I would get one if it is really cheap."

My preference in a handgun also.


61 posted on 11/11/2005 8:03:29 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: DETAILER

Check out:
http://www.levergun.com/articles/44_Special_Bulldog.htm
http://www.amfire.com/php/container.php?content=newsPost.php&newsPostID=99


62 posted on 11/11/2005 8:07:26 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." - James 4:7)
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To: DETAILER; All
This is a little off the subject but since it's a gun thread here goes.

Hornady has just brought out ( first I've seen it anyway) pointed ammo for lever action rifles. They look like ballistic tip rounds but the tip is soft and pliable.

It really bumps up the ballistic coefficient, extending the range of the 30-30, 35 Rem., 444 Marlin and a few others substantially.

Check it out. http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=198
63 posted on 11/11/2005 8:28:36 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Feckless
That sound is for the movies...... all of my guns are fully loaded (including one in the chamber. The first sound you hear may be the last.

I firearm with a round in a chamber will, in a house fire, shoot that round with the same force as if you'd pulled the trigger. IMHO, if you have time to get to a gun which is not in your immediate possession, you have time to chamber a round.

64 posted on 11/12/2005 3:27:56 PM PST by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: Eva
What is the advantage to having an unregistered gun?

The fact that you can keep it even if the government decides to outlaw them.

65 posted on 11/12/2005 3:29:47 PM PST by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I have my eyes on the 45 GAP round right now. If it lasts and gains market share in the next year or so, I may embrace it.

To be able to have a 45 caliber handgun in the size of a 9mm one is certainly an attraction. I think the GAP round is beginning to have a decent rep in street shootings too. So, we shall see.

I have no use for the 40 short and weak. I saw one Kaboom a couple of years ago, and that was enough for me.


66 posted on 11/12/2005 4:45:20 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Big people are harder to kidnap!)
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To: Noumenon

The 44 special is a very effective manstopper at distances up to 50 yards in that particular barrel length. Get a longer tube on it, such as a smith and wesson sixgun with a six inch bbl, and you can reach out somewhat further.

I think I'd load it with Glaser Safety Slug or Powerball controlled expansion ammo in a short tube revolver like that. It will maximize your stopping power.

Don't forget, you cannot shoot the really hot loaded 44 specials in that Charter. It won't take the beating for very long.


67 posted on 11/12/2005 4:49:55 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Big people are harder to kidnap!)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

What's with the ugly red backstrap?


68 posted on 11/12/2005 4:55:49 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: DETAILER

Load it down with inverted wadcutters.

A few of those'd stop most any argument.


69 posted on 11/12/2005 5:08:03 PM PST by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: supercat
a round in a chamber will, in a house fire, shoot that round with the same force as if you'd pulled the trigger.

Many moons ago, in the grip of an Alaskan winter, my mother decided to 'burn' some trash in our fireplace to get some wood started. Not knowing a couple of Air Force issued 45 shells had fallen into a bedroom trash can (spilled off the dresser?) she and my sister snuggled up to the warmth only to be rudely awakened by a couple of blasts.

Ashes-on-fire were quickly upon them. My question is: how lethal might the projectile have been, given that the casing was probably moving with the same speed in the opposite direction? [True Story]

70 posted on 11/12/2005 5:40:31 PM PST by budwiesest (What 's the matter, banjo out of tune?)
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To: DETAILER
I have a .44 magnum that I keep handy in the house.

It is loaded with .44 special hollowpoints.

I'm not hunting grizzly bears and do not need the extra recoil.

Many a bad man has gone to his ultimate punishment at the business end of a .44 special.

71 posted on 11/12/2005 5:43:20 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DETAILER

I happen to think that the .44 spl is a good caliber for home defense, and it doesn't beat the crap out of you like a full blown .44 mag.

FWIW, I've shot "downloaded" .44 mag for years in pin competition. If you load your own, you'll be able to send a 240gr hard cast LSWC downrange at around 750 fps for practice and fun (very little recoil), but you can get good, commercial protection loads, like the W/W Silvertips or CCI Gold dots.

In commercial loads, you can go light and fast, or heavy and slow, depending on what you're most comfortable with.

Mark


72 posted on 11/12/2005 5:53:58 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: I got the rope
No way...sneakypete is back?

Old thread. Check the year. He should be back as I feel all vets should have a say, even if it offends a few. If lead has been tossed your way defending this country, I'm willing to listen. Happy Veteran's Day (yesterday).

73 posted on 11/12/2005 5:54:29 PM PST by budwiesest (What 's the matter, banjo out of tune?)
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To: TOMH1
There probably are specialty loads out there, CorBon?, who hot load it.

There are good heavy, defense loads available. From CorBon, W/W (Sivertip), CCI (GoldDot).

Mark

74 posted on 11/12/2005 5:55:55 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: joeyman
Fast round with a sharp thwak to the hand. 50 rounds will probably leave your hand "ringing." Not the most pleasant to shoot. I prefer a soft shove like a 45 gives to the sharp sting of a .40. Good round in a small package. Pretty effective.

And it's especially not fun out of a gun like the Star Firestar. It's about the same size as a .380, like the Colt Mustang. 10 rounds is about enough for me.

Mark

75 posted on 11/12/2005 5:59:15 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: bandleader
As far as the .44 Special cartridge is concerned,it is WEAK!!

While it's no .44Mag (I've loaded 185gr jhp to 1750 fps through my Super Redhawk - I'd never fire that in my 629!), you can get CorBon 165gr JHP @ about 1150fps, and W/W and CCI have 200gr loads at around 900 fps.

Not too bad.

Mark

Hey, since we're talking about .44Mag and 629s, anybody have any idea how much a Power Special 629 Grand Master might bring? It's in good condition, and with me being out of work, if I don't get a job soon, I may think about selling some of my collection, at least those that I haven't shot in years. Ron Power builds (built, actually, as he's retired now) some of the best S&W actions around.

Mark

76 posted on 11/12/2005 6:08:46 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: budwiesest
Ashes-on-fire were quickly upon them. My question is: how lethal might the projectile have been, given that the casing was probably moving with the same speed in the opposite direction? [True Story]

From what I've read, ammunition which is not contained in a firearm barrel isn't much of a threat. As soon as the powder starts to burn, the seal between the casing and the bullet will be opened, allowing most of the gas to escape harmlessly. In an experiment where rounds were placed on a metal table which was heated until they cooked off, casings usually travelled less than a foot. In some cases, the bullet stayed attached to the casing and the primer went flying (after which all other gasses vented out the primer hole). The primer could fly some distance, but because of its light weight wouldn't pose much of a threat.

77 posted on 11/12/2005 7:10:07 PM PST by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: DETAILER

The charter arms bulldog is a great gun. It's definitly a handfull with those .44 specials. If the price is right as you said, jump on it.


78 posted on 11/12/2005 7:23:52 PM PST by bad company ( Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
I have never fire a 44 that thing must have one hell of a kick to it

.44 magnum, yes

.44 special is a pussy cat. It can be hand-loaded to considerable velocity, but factory loads are easy on the shooter.

My S&W N-framed Model 24 with a 3" barrel.

That big old heavy frame soaks up all the recoil. I've put a set Miculek stocks and some Meprolight tritium night sights.

79 posted on 11/12/2005 7:30:52 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: supercat
The primer could fly some distance, but because of its light weight wouldn't pose much of a threat.

Thanks SC. Sounds like this is what might have happened. I heard there were a couple of loud 'bangs' and hot ash went through the chain-link screen in front of the fireplace, landing on my little sister.

80 posted on 11/12/2005 9:38:06 PM PST by budwiesest (What 's the matter, banjo out of tune?)
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To: Eva

You're only about 3 years late in responding to my post. However,...
Unregistered is not the proper word, but my sentiment is the same. Buying from a dealer entails that you have to go through the FBI check. That's not a problem for me because I can buy a firearm legally. However, the check tells the feds, "So-and-so just bought the such and such gun with such and such serial number." Now the feds claim that these records are destroyed after a certain amount of time.
But, look at what happened in New Orleans recently. LEO went around confiscating guns so they could force evacuation.
I don't believe the feds actually destroy the records. I believe that if and when the feds decide to confiscate our guns, they'll rely on those FBI checks to help identify gun owners.


81 posted on 11/14/2005 8:47:14 AM PST by sparkomatic (I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. Phil 4:13)
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To: DETAILER

Buy it.


82 posted on 11/14/2005 9:01:04 AM PST by xone
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To: DETAILER

I have 2, an old blue steel from the original Charter Arms Co and a stainless from the Charter Arms 2000. I like them both, scored 248 out of 250 on my last Texas CCW with it. Recoil on last shot is like an arm wrestling event 'cause it's so lite but I love the sound and muzzle flash and it's smaller than a lot of .38s for CCW.


83 posted on 11/14/2005 9:26:43 AM PST by Feckless (En Temps)
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