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Our Lady Weeps: V-Monologues Comes to Notre Dame (Catholic leader calls ND Prez a "modern Judas")
www.catholicity.com ^ | February 25, 2002 | Bud Macfarlane Jr., MI

Posted on 02/26/2002 3:54:43 AM PST by Diago

Our Lady Weeps: V-Monologues Comes to Notre Dame

by Bud Macfarlane

DURING LENT

This Lent the pro-lesbian, verbally pornographic play, the V-Monologues is being staged at the University of Notre Dame in South Bend. The "V" stands for a woman's genitalia, and is spelled fully out in the promotional materials. It is being staged with the full blessings of the university's administration, which has done nothing to discourage its showing. Students are acting in the play, and it is sponsored by the school's Department of Film, Television, and Theater. Proceeds from the Monologues will apparently be donated to various feminist groups, none of which share much in common with the moral teachings of the Catholic Church.

THE "C" WORD

Not only have I read transcripts from the play, but I've also seen it, as distasteful as it was, so I could write about it without detractors claiming I'm condemning something based on second-hand accounts. I do not recommend anyone, Catholic or otherwise, see this blatant piece of propaganda. Perverse acts, including the pedophilic seduction of a 13 year-old-girl by an older woman, are graphically described. Lesbianism and masturbation are glorified. To give you an inkling of the crudity of this "play," think of the worst four-letter word you know that begins with "c." A couple of years ago, when this trash was staged at Saint Mary's, a Catholic woman's college across the street from Notre Dame, the "chorus" began chanting this "c" word enthusiastically. You get the idea. Art, it is not. If you're skeptical, and not sensitive to utterly foul language and perverse subject matter, you can read an article on the Saint Mary's production here:

http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/2000/April/stmarys.html

NOTRE DAME GRAD

I'm a graduate of Notre Dame, as is my wife. Sadly, we are not surprised by this propaganda being featured at Notre Dame. Those who occupy the seats of power at Notre Dame have always taken pride in being the vanguard of Catholic dissent. Before Vatican II, Notre Dame sponsored a series of clandestine seminars with the Rockefeller Foundation in the early 1960s explicitly aimed at undermining the Church's teaching on artificial birth control (as documented by E. Michael Jones, editor of Culture Wars Magazine). Notre Dame administrators have long hid their vile intentions behind a curtain of "academic freedom," while presenting to the world-- and especially to parents of students--a face of benign, feel-good Catholicism. For example, the president of Notre Dame is Father Edward "Monk" Malloy, CSC. I remember a conversation I had with Father Malloy when I was an undergrad before he became president; he told me that the Church needed to change its position on "alternative forms of orgasmic behavior." We were standing in a men's room next to a urinal, which seemed appropriate at the time. I doubt Father Malloy features his views on "alternative forms of orgasmic behavior" in Notre Dame's promotional literature. I also remember corresponding with President Malloy as he defended Notre Dame's showing of the blasphemous movie "The Last Temptation of Christ" in the late 1980s. Again, he washed his hands with the filthy water of "academic freedom," as if falsehood could be a legitimate "point of view."

THE REALITY OF HELL

Out of love, I told Father Malloy in my letters then, and I'm telling him now, that unless he and those in the administration who support him repent of their sins, they shall surely face the eternal fires of hell. It's about time somebody said this out loud. There is a hell, and there are enemies of Christ, and these enemies do go to hell when they die if they do not repent. I sadly imagine that there are special torments in hell for those who wear Roman collars and carry bishop's mitres who actively promote or superciliously permit those in their care to exposure to perversions such as the V-Monologues. For decades now, the University of Notre Dame and other Catholic institutions of "higher" learning have jeopardized the souls of students that come under their influence, and they do so by design, willfully, and with a certain patronizing smarminess that makes decent folk feel the presence of evil. I fear my words are wasted: loving warnings about reality of damnation to those who evidently don't believe in eternal justice often fall upon deaf ears.

I LOVE NOTRE DAME

I have kept in touch with Notre Dame students over the years. I assure you that the devout Catholic counter-revolution is underway. There are many more students who are faithful to the Church there now than when I was a student in the early 1980s, despite the agitprop of those in charge of the institution, and these students are not remaining silent about the V-Monologues coming to our beloved Alma Mater. Their protests and prayer vigils will surely be ignored and unheard by those in positions of power, but these saints will be heard in heaven by Jesus. God bless them! And there are and have always been faculty members who are faithful to the Church, some of whom have been heroic in their public and private support of these students. I stand in solidarity with these true sons and daughters of Our Lady's university.

JUDAS IN A ROMAN COLLAR

Yes, Malloy and others like him are despicable in their hypocrisy. They call themselves Catholic while undermining the Mystical Body of Christ. Shame on them. Yes, these modern day Judases make me deeply ashamed that I am a graduate of the University of Notre Dame. Yet I love Notre Dame with all my heart, which makes my sadness and anger at seeing it dragged through the mud all the more heartrending. I'm sure many of my fellow alumni share my sorrow. I especially love Notre Dame's founder, Father Sorin, whose vision for a great Catholic University is being defiled intentionally by pretenders to his legacy. But these embarrassments are nothing compared to the spiritual reality of the situation: students are being taught how to go to hell at Notre Dame and other "Catholic" colleges and universities. Surely, Our Lady weeps bitterly.

HOPE

Mark my words, academic excellence does not mix with immorality, because immorality cannot bear the truth for long, and virtue in pursuit of the truth is the reason why institutions of higher learning exist. In other words, faith and reason are complimentary, and one cannot be virtuous and believe in falsehoods at the same time. It may be for now that Notre Dame is held in high regard by the world, and perhaps her graduates will be in better position to get high-paying jobs. But will they be in position to build up the Body of Christ? Will these graduates and their future spouses and children be in better position to merit heaven as a result of their "education"? Will they gain the world and lose their souls? It seems that these are questions that Father Malloy and his ilk no longer care about.

FOOTNOTE IN SALVATION HISTORY

In the long run, either those who are in charge of Notre Dame will repent of their sins and reform their institution, or this once faithful university will become a footnote in salvation history. Educational institutions faithful to the magisterial teachings of the Church such as Franciscan University of Steubenville (OH), Christendom College (VA), Thomas Aquinas College (CA), Our Lady of Corpus Christi College (TX), Ave Maria College and School of Law (MI), Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy (ONTARIO, CANADA), and Saint Thomas More College (NH) are prospering and growing. They are attracting the higher quality students who in years past longed to attend Notre Dame. (All these schools can be contacted by searching under "college" at http://www.bestcatholiclinks.com.) Contrary to popular belief, the institution does not make the student; the excellence of the student makes the institution. In short, God does not need Notre Dame; Notre Dame needs God. And if it doesn't reform, Catholics won't need Notre Dame either.

THE FUTURE

I have four sons under the age of ten. They're smart as whips. They, along with tens of thousands of Catholic home-schooled children are in grammar school and high school grades. All the studies show that these students are not only being raised in virtue and truth at great sacrifice by devout parents, but that they are scoring in the top percentiles of academic excellence. Some of these children will eventually attend Notre Dame, where, as with my wife and I and the devout students of today, they will form the beating heart of Immaculate Mary in an otherwise nominally Catholic campus. Most, however, will not be called by Our Lord to attend Notre Dame. The future leaders of the Catholic Church in the United States are graduating and will graduate from Ave Maria and Christendom and Steubenville, and even secular colleges which still value truth in various disciplines, but at least do not undermine the Church from within. Pride goeth before the fall, Notre Dame, and ye have fallen, and have further to fall, for the abyss is deep and eternal. Every night, every night, I pray for thee.

Your Loving Son,

Bud Macfarlane Jr., MI
Notre Dame Class of 1984


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Bud Macfarlane Jr sent this out to his e-mail list of over 70,000 conservative Catholics. It is also posted on his website www.Catholicity.com, probably the second most frequently visited Catholic website after EWTN.com.

Let's hope ND gets the message.

1 posted on 02/26/2002 3:54:43 AM PST by Diago
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To: pollwatcher; 3catsanadog; mdittmar; verboten; braDíS GRAMMA; IM2PHAT4U; LARRYLIED; CAGEY...
ping
2 posted on 02/26/2002 3:59:29 AM PST by Diago
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To: Diago
Bump ND '88
3 posted on 02/26/2002 4:05:17 AM PST by ArmoredCav
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To: Diago
Thanks Diago, now I'm going to be Pi$$ed for the rest of the day!

I hope all of us who have supported Notre Dame financially suddenly lose our checkbooks. This is a gross slap in the face to the person for whom this institution was named. I really cannot believe the administration will allow this.

I would love to see a huge negative response from the student body over this abominable decision.

4 posted on 02/26/2002 4:12:06 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: Diago
It should be interesting to note, that the religious sector
of this Nation has historically voted along democrat lines.

They continue to support the democrat party in all areas,
encouraging their congregations to support candidates of
the democrat political party.

It's no wonder, since all organized religion's agendas are
basically socialistic; their demands for the "banning" of
various media and topics equally socialistic and repressive
of Liberty.

But we should be concerned of their "plight" concerning
"democrat agendas".........   why?

5 posted on 02/26/2002 4:12:47 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: ArmoredCav
bttt.v's wife.
6 posted on 02/26/2002 4:15:46 AM PST by ventana
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To: Diago
My father went to Notre Dame and he used to send them contributions from time to time, not realizing that they were actively engaged in undermmining the Church. The last time they sent him one of their fundraising letters, he wrote "Not another dime until you stop inviting pro-abortionists to campus" and sent it back. What a great sorrow it is to see ND besmirched this way.
7 posted on 02/26/2002 4:16:14 AM PST by austen
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To: Diago
While I agree with nearly everything in this letter, I think the future leaders of the church are more likely to be the faithful who perservere at institutions like Notre Dame. ND is one of the most highly rated educational institutions.
8 posted on 02/26/2002 4:30:05 AM PST by Varda
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To: Diago
Also a graduate of Notre Dame, I love the University as well as the entire college community.

I am not Catholic. However, I am a member of the Lutheran Church (ELCA) and often attend Catholic services.

The University is secularized and open in its policies and has been for over twenty years. Sadly, Notre Dame will be forced to deal with controversies of this type because of certain negative influences on campus.

I personally do not think the use of vulgar words in college plays is objectionable in itself. However, the theme of the 'V. Monologues' is the elevation of lesbian sexuality and seduction of a young girl by an older woman. Clearly those themes should not be promoted by Notre Dame, and the production of this play is a significant mistake by the University.

Nuff said.

9 posted on 02/26/2002 4:41:37 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Diago
Very sad to see Notre Dame buying into this third-rate tripe masquerading as women's "empowerment." The left has successfully managed to convince the gullible that this off-Broadway trash is somehow significant and "liberating."

Unfortunate that ND has chosen to neglect church teaching and common sense in a bid to appear trendy.

10 posted on 02/26/2002 4:45:24 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: EODGUY
I hope all of us who have supported Notre Dame financially suddenly lose our checkbooks. This is a gross slap in the face to the person for whom this institution was named. I really cannot believe the administration will allow this.

I suspect that this is exactly what will happen, at least among older alumni. Incidentally, I have heard more than a few alumni say they probably won't send their children there.

11 posted on 02/26/2002 4:49:08 AM PST by independentmind
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To: EODGUY
Thanks Diago, now I'm going to be Pi$$ed for the rest of the day!

Well, misery loves company and that is why I posted this. I hope you will keep ND in your prayers. This is a disgrace.

12 posted on 02/26/2002 4:50:07 AM PST by Diago
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To: austen
I no longer financially contribute to my Alma Mater either. We should however, try to support those institutions that are loyal to the Magisterium. The ones noted by Macfarlane are certainly worthy of support:

Franciscan University of Steubenville (OH), Christendom College (VA), Thomas Aquinas College (CA), Our Lady of Corpus Christi College (TX), Ave Maria College and School of Law (MI), Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy (ONTARIO, CANADA), and Saint Thomas More College (NH) are prospering and growing. They are attracting the higher quality students who in years past longed to attend Notre Dame.

13 posted on 02/26/2002 4:54:09 AM PST by Diago
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To: Diago
Notre Dame must decide very soon whether it wants to be Catholic, and a center of higher education, or a center of higher education and catholic. Georgetown has chosen the latter path; let us hope that Notre Dame does not follow.
14 posted on 02/26/2002 4:59:21 AM PST by gaspar
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To: Diago
Notre Dame has been falling for years and why should the Clergy at that School be any more Religious oriented than the clergy in most Catholic Universities today.

The Catholic church gave up seats to all comers when they could have been filled up with Catholic Children.

Where did the money come from to build these schools if not from Catholics.

15 posted on 02/26/2002 5:03:14 AM PST by chatham
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To: Varda
I don't know, Varda. My own kids are young, very bright and home-schooled. Macfarlane says the same about his own children. I don't think I could ever give a dime to Notre Dame, no matter how highly rated it is as an educational institution. Nor could I give another dime to my own Jesuit Alma Mater.

I think conservative Catholic parents need to begin "voting with their tuition dollars" and sending their children to the more loyal Catholic schools. Thomas Aquinas College, for instance, is academically superior to Notre Dame, Georgetown and Holy Cross.

16 posted on 02/26/2002 5:16:56 AM PST by Diago
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To: Deep_6
I was going to argue with your assertion that all religions support the democratic party in all areas until I read this:

It's no wonder, since all organized religion's agendas are basically socialistic; their demands for the "banning" of various media and topics equally socialistic and repressive of Liberty.

No point in going near that can of worms.

17 posted on 02/26/2002 5:45:41 AM PST by grellis
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To: Diago
For decades now, the University of Notre Dame and other Catholic institutions of "higher" learning have jeopardized the souls of students that come under their influence, and they do so by design, willfully, and with a certain patronizing smarminess that makes decent folk feel the presence of evil.

I have been amazed since I've been in MA at the attitude of parents toward Notre Dame. It is ususally the FIRST school on so many kids' lists! Either they don't know or don't care just how bad it has gotten. I think they still have these visions of Knute Rockne and the Gipper dancing in their heads!

McFarlane is right about Notre Dame being in the vanguard of dissent! Apparently a few years ago it wanted to award Fr. Richard McBrien an honorary doctorate and it asked the Law School to do it. Folks in the Law School said NO POSSIBLE WAY, so the School of Theology had to do it. The folks at the Law School are apparently more concerned with the passing on of the faith than the so called theologians at the school. I have a friend who got a degree in Theology from a Catholic college in the 70's and said it was a major reason why she's almost lost her faith!

What was it Jesus said about millstones....?

18 posted on 02/26/2002 6:01:18 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: gaspar
Notre Dame cannot follow. It began the formal rejection of Catholicism by most "Catholic" coleges in 1967 when then-Notre Dame President Fr. Theodore Hesburgh, a professional leftist if ever there was one, called all of the Catholic colleges toa conference at Land o' Lakes, Wisconsin, wher the leaders of all but six of them agreed to abandon Catholicism as a ruling guideline for their schools. After all, whined the termites, how CAN our colleges EVER be respected as scholarly institutions (by the various enemies of the Catholic faith running other colleges) when we are presenting an image of being mired in medieval Catholicism (aka the Truth)? Hesburgh's successor at Notre Dame, Monk Molloy, has taken Notre Dame further from Catholicism. E. Michael Jones, a former Notre Dame faculty member, has chronicled the destruction of Notre Dame as a Catholic institution. Are you offended by the "V" Monologues being presented at Notre Dame, Holy Cross and other pseudo-Catholic institutions? That's nothing. How about the death by gunshot wound of a Danish Dominican priest/faculty member at Notre Dame in the 1980s slain by a .44 caliber chest wound, ruled a suicide (about as likely as Vince Foster) who had taken an off-campus house of his own when he was supposed to live in the discipline of the Dominican community and was an active participant in the "leather" subculture of the lavender lifestyle. He had dished out two dishes of ice cream, one for himself and one for his "guest" before the shooting.

How about Boston College referring co-eds for abortion? How about Notre Dame's execrable excuse for an oft-time Theology Department Chairman and priest, Richard McBrien who wrote Mario Cuomo's Notre Dame speech on why "Catholic" politicians MUST be support systems for baby killers? Please! There are about ten genuinely Catholic colleges in the United States, almost all of them new (20 yrs or so young) and run by laity.

If your bishop will not meaningfully implement Ex Corde Ecclesiae (Pope JP II's document requiring orthodoxy of faculty at "Catholic" colleges here, drop the bishop a note saying that all your Church contributions will be sent directly to the Vatican until the bishop performs his duty and purges the Catholic faculties within his jurisdiction. The courts will not interfere with such actions because they concede that internal decisions as to doctrine are beyond the competence of the courts, especially in light of the First Amendment.

Notre Dame can be cleaned up easily by replacing the quisling bishop of South Bend, Indiana, who runs interference for the heretics and heathens and lifestyle flora and fauna of Notre Dame with the National Conference of Bishops. A new bishop determined to empty out Notre Dame's faculty septic tank has the authority to do so. Only the Jesuits are immune from local bishops. The Holy Office (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) can deal with the Jebbies and ought to.

It is long since time to stop thinking of Notre Dame as: "Let's win one for the Gipper" or as the "Catholic Yale of the Plains" or as an even vaguely Catholic institution.

19 posted on 02/26/2002 6:08:42 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: Deep_6
Gathering, as one must, that you are not Catholic, why is this any of your business?
20 posted on 02/26/2002 6:10:00 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: Diago; *Catholic_list; *Christian_list; *Abortion_list; *Pro_life; patent; notwithstanding...
Thanks for posting this, Diago.

Though I "gave up" FR during Lent, I just received a small but encouraging bit of news regarding the VM play at Catholic universities, and wanted to share it.

I posted a related thread before Lent, Press Release: An Open Letter to the President of the College of the Holy Cross.

This effort at publicizing the problems with this play lead to Gonzaga University cancelling the play. It was scheduled for February 28:

Dateline: 02/25/2002


GONZAGA UNIVERSITY NEWS RELEASE

Dale Goodwin, Director
Peter Tormey, Associate Director

WOMEN’S STUDIES CLUB TO PRESENT ‘VAGINA MONOLOGUES’ FEB. 28, MARCH 1-2
The Women’s Studies Club of Gonzaga University will present “The Vagina Monologues,” a dramatic production that is part of V-Day, the global movement to stop violence against women and girls, at 7 p.m., Feb. 28, March 1 and March 2 at the WestCoast River Inn.

*****

We just got a call at the Catholic Family Association of America from Gonzaga, a Jesuit Catholic university out west. The president had just prohibited the VM scheduled by it's WOMEN'S STUDIES CLUB for FEB. 28, MARCH 1-2. They had seen our open letter to Fr. McFarland. His assistant, a good priest, was looking for ammo to defend his decision in a televised public forum on freedom of speech this evening. It was of great interest to him that Holy Cross alumni were outraged. We forwarded just about everything we had.

It's great to hit a homer, even a small one.

21 posted on 02/26/2002 6:19:14 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Varda
Highly rated by whom? The usual pack of liberal termites? Is Yale highly rated? I spent most of my life living in its shadow and knowing its undergraduates and hearing the horror stories. Purely on the basis of academic substance, Yale has long since given up the ghost. Marxists running the philosophy department have been running out of the department anyone who does not share their commitment to the revolution. Read Bill Buckley's God and Man at Yale, written when he was editor of the Yale Daily News as an undergraduate (cless of 1951). Buckley's Yale of 1951 looks like a medieval monastery in both scholarship and intellectual achievement compared to the charnel house that Yale has become.

For our own good and that of our children and that of our nation and society, can we now kill off the cult of the publicly recognized (by academic credentials) "expert", the mindless stupidity of employers who hire by academic "credentials", etc.

From what engineering school did Thomas Edison graduate?

Let us start our own internet universities, as Ralph McInerney, a rare Notre Dame faculty Catholic has, save the cost of brick and mortar, re-emphasize education steeped in the truth of our culture, recognize that theology, philosphy and history are more important than football.

22 posted on 02/26/2002 6:23:34 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: Diago
Central to this play is the lesbian rape of a thirteen year old child.

Liberals are spiritual, and often literal, rapists and pedophiles. They despise all innocence, especially that of a child.

23 posted on 02/26/2002 6:24:41 AM PST by moyden
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To: independentmind; Diago
I suspect that this is exactly what will happen, at least among older alumni. Incidentally, I have heard more than a few alumni say they probably won't send their children there.

Both of you are exactly correct. My dream was to send my son to Notre Dame Law School, but no more.

And Diago, I will indeed pray for this once prestigious Catholic institution.

God Bless,

EODGUY

24 posted on 02/26/2002 6:30:28 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: Diago
Here's another, deeper and longer, analysis of the VM play:

V-Day at St. Mary’s College

Excerpt:

The revolution which could bring about the overthrow of the political power of the Catholic Church in Austria was based, not on debate, but behavior: "We do not discuss the existence or nonexistence of God—we merely eliminate the sexual repressions and dissolve the infantile ties to the parents" (p. 182).

"The inescapable conclusion of all this," Reich concludes, "is that a clear sexual consciousness and a natural regulation of sexual life must foredoom every form of mysticism; that, in other words, natural sexuality is the arch enemy of mystical religion. By carrying on an anti-sexual fight wherever it can, making it the core of its dogmas and putting it in the foreground of its mass propaganda, the church only attests to the correctness of this interpretation." By getting people to act contrary to the Church’s teaching on sexual morals, Reich and his followers automatically limited its political influence. The logical conclusion of this is also clear: the total sexualization of a culture would mean the total extinction of the Church and the classical state based on the moral law.

"The process of the uprooting of mysticism" is accomplished more effectively, in other words, by deviant sexual behavior than by debate over the existence of God or the nth thesis of the Sixth International. Reich felt that sexual license would win out over self-control in every instance, and he probably felt that way based on his own experiences, where self-control lost consistently. But he also was empirical enough to see the same phenomenon in others. He mentions "clerics" who find it impossible to continue in their vocation once they have "felt on their own body" the "physical consequences" of sexual license. (p. 182).

The real purpose of a play like The Vagina Monologues is to "uproot" the Catholic faith in the girls who attend St. Mary’s College by promoting masturbation and deviant sexual activity. The political implications of this insight are clear, but they can be put into effect only after a cultural revolution has taken control of the instruments of culture. In other words, most people will not act out sexually in any consistent fashion on their own. They will be cowed by social convention into inhibition or brought by it to repentance. Reich noticed the inhibiting effect of culture on his patients. He was also quick to draw a conclusion which was the converse of the one he discovered. If women are inhibited sexually by culture, changes in the imagery promoted by the culture will bring about a change in behavior, which will in turn bring about a change in values.

25 posted on 02/26/2002 6:38:15 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Diago
I wouldn't give to Notre Dame either (it doesn't need it, it has a huge endowment). I would probably give to the schools he mentioned in an effort to elevate their academic programs. However, currently the point is education. There is a difference between the product the better schools turn out and everyone else. Most better schools turn out the well educated and morally vacant. At least at Notre Dame it is possible for the prepared student to hold onto his faith and profit by top tier education. Thomas Aquinas may be in that top tier in some particular area and for the student whose talents lie there that is the best of all worlds. For students whose interests lie outside the liberal arts the choice of schools is less than ideal.
26 posted on 02/26/2002 6:49:50 AM PST by Varda
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To: EODGUY
My dream was to send my son to Notre Dame Law School, but no more.

I am hoping to see my boys go to the Ave Maria School of Law. It will be interesting to see how this school does over the next 15 years.

27 posted on 02/26/2002 7:30:08 AM PST by Diago
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To: BlackElk
The President of the Board of the local very conservative Catholic private school is a graduate of Yale. The headmaster counseled students at Princeton. Both those schools are on my "over my dead body" list. Nevertheless, there are people measuring the performance of students (I'm assuming it's workplace performance, I'll ask). Certain graduates are in high demand the world over (in the technical fields probably in others).

While I agree about the internet universities, there is something good to be said about classroom and lab instruction. History, theology, and philosophy are wonderful subjects but there is more to the world than those and I don't see the point of conceding other fields of inquiry to the secularists. As a parent it's my responsiblity to prepare my child to defend his faith in the world. It's also my responsiblity to see that he develops his talents.

28 posted on 02/26/2002 7:32:07 AM PST by Varda
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To: dansangel
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29 posted on 02/26/2002 7:45:23 AM PST by .45MAN
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To: nd76
ping
30 posted on 02/26/2002 7:50:11 AM PST by Diago
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To: proud2bRC
What happened? It's still lent.
31 posted on 02/26/2002 11:25:58 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Diago
University of Notre Dame feedback page.
32 posted on 02/26/2002 11:46:17 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Diago; teacup
thanks for posting this
I'm a HUGE Bud MacFarlane fan and love Catholicity.
They had a major impact on my returning to the faith....long may they both exist!
33 posted on 02/26/2002 11:59:12 AM PST by MudPuppy
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To: patent; askel5
please bump for Bud
34 posted on 02/26/2002 12:05:44 PM PST by MudPuppy
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To: Diago
Catholicity.com is an excellent web site.
Thanks for sharing!
35 posted on 02/26/2002 12:21:01 PM PST by mickie
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To: Diago
Kudos to fellow Domer Bud McFarlane, Jr. from this son of Our Lady's University.

MONK MALLOY--THE TIME HAS COME FOR YOU TO GO.

36 posted on 02/26/2002 1:59:56 PM PST by nd76
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To: EODGUY
Actually, Notre Dame Law School is one of the two authentically Catholic parts of the university (the architecture school, with famed loyal Catholic Dr. Duncan Stroik, is the other). If your son could go there, he should.
37 posted on 02/26/2002 2:05:41 PM PST by nd76
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To: Diago
I was recently on campus at my Alma Mater ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY (1973 grad) and saw a flyer advertising this. It is a sad commentary that Catholic institutions (or any religious institution)would promote such vileness.
38 posted on 02/26/2002 2:12:15 PM PST by Schaef
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To: proud2bRC
A worthy Lenten exception.

Got the book ... THANK YOU very much.

39 posted on 02/26/2002 2:31:44 PM PST by Askel5
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I assure you that the devout Catholic counter-revolution is underway.

Aslan is on the move.

40 posted on 02/26/2002 2:35:09 PM PST by Askel5
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To: freee-dame,maica
bttt
41 posted on 02/26/2002 2:37:58 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Diago
This truly is an abomination. Why the leaders of a Catholic University would spit on the blessing from God that is a reliously-based univesity is unfathomable. I hope that Pope John Paul II cleans house there and stops practices carried on by other aberrant wolves that attack the Catholic Church from within...
42 posted on 02/26/2002 2:43:27 PM PST by tracer
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To: Diago
I think conservative Catholic parents need to begin "voting with their tuition dollars"

Absolutely. My choice for my youngest daughter would have been Stuebenville, unfortunately I couldn't afford the tuition at a private out-of-state university. I am thankful that Texas A&M is still a fairly conservative public institution. Of course they had the V-Monologues there as well. It created some controversy and would have caused even more in College Station (a conservative community) if it had been advertised more. It was kept fairly low key.

43 posted on 02/26/2002 2:54:01 PM PST by Nubbin
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To: grellis
re:
"..No point in going near that can of worms....."

Ok, so I got a little carried away.... I just got through
reading a certain convicted priest's appeal for a trial
dismissal on further counts of child molestation here
in democrat's Massachusetts, and went into a tirade.

I'm not fond of "organized religion", so please pardon
my often contemptuous tone towards it. Most on this
board do not recognize one's belief in God, unless that
person subscribes to any of the more conforming
organized religions.

Factually however, the organized religions are and have
been, supporters of the democrat party. When the party's
agenda bites them on the butt, I am the last to feel pity.

Thanks for your gentle reply.

 

44 posted on 02/26/2002 4:37:54 PM PST by Deep_6
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To: BlackElk
re:
"..Gathering, as one must, that you are not Catholic,
why is this any of your business?
....."

Born into a Catholic family, baptized Catholic, but now
not a member of any organized religion, may I suggest
that when one posts to an open forum, one should expect
replies from the open populace.

Or more simply: Get over it.

 

Thanks.

45 posted on 02/26/2002 4:41:12 PM PST by Deep_6
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To: Diago
Bud Macfarlane Jr sent this out to his e-mail list of over 70,000 conservative Catholics. It is also posted on his website www.Catholicity.com, probably the second most frequently visited Catholic website after EWTN.com. Let's hope ND gets the message.

Doubtful, but God bless him! Perhaps it's time for us to deluge ND with a "patented" Freeper email onslaught?
46 posted on 02/26/2002 6:58:45 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: austen
The last time they sent him one of their fundraising letters, he wrote "Not another dime until you stop inviting pro-abortionists to campus" and sent it back. What a great sorrow it is to see ND besmirched this way.

I wrote almost the exact same note to Boston College, except my peeve was about an article glorifying the valorous homosexual students at BC in the alumni magazine.
47 posted on 02/26/2002 7:01:39 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Diago
Perverse acts, including the pedophilic seduction of a 13 year-old-girl by an older woman

The 24-year-old "friend of the family" (some friend!) gets the girl drunk first. Just the sort of morals you'd expect from feminists.

48 posted on 02/26/2002 7:06:40 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: BlackElk
If your bishop will not meaningfully implement Ex Corde Ecclesiae drop the bishop a note saying that all your Church contributions will be sent directly to the Vatican until the bishop performs his duty and purges the Catholic faculties within his jurisdiction.

Now that's the best idea I've heard all day.
49 posted on 02/26/2002 7:08:08 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Diago
Outrageous, disgusting & deplorable that ND is promoting this porno play.....whatever happened to Catholic morality?

I am stunned that ND would permit this pro-lesbian & pro-pedophile play to be performed at the University.

50 posted on 02/26/2002 7:13:47 PM PST by JulieRNR21
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