Killing for God: Hal Lindsey highlights prophecies about current events

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, March 6, 2002 | Hal Lindsey

[Prodigal Daughter]

No doubt! Chilling!

[Prodigal Daughter]

Again, Jesus predicted about those days, "And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another." (Matt. 24:11)

Absurd. No Muslims fall away in latter days. The seed for their rebellion was planted thousands of years ago by Hagar and Ismael who were blessed by Yahweh, but preferred to return to their Egyptian cat gods and cow gods who had handmaidens of pharoahs buried alive. Modern day Hagars don't want to come out of Babylon.

[Red Jones]

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[mil-vet]

"Quotes from their Qur’an" - Exactly (your post #12)! ...and Bush (I would vote for him again) among others is saying this is a religion of peace and love! BIG ERROR, according to the Qur’an. Until the non-islamics of the world do some reading and realize what's going on and what non-islamics are up against, 9-11 type attacks, or worse, will be a constant possibility/threat. Smaller magnitude of attack notwithstanding, would you send your kids to an Israeli market to do the shopping?

Wake up, people! You cannot trust anyone who subscribes to (lives by) the Qur’an! They have a stated directive to kill you, and gov't counter-terrorism personnel can't be everywhere at once, so who do you think should be responsible for protecting your family? YOU!

Get with it or take accountability if/when you or yours become targets, and it IS possible for this to happen! Too many people think bad things only happen to others. Preparedness can deflect a WHOLE BUNCH (but not all, unfortunately) of bad things. Get prepared!

Do YOU have an islamic neighbor? You think you know them, right? Your kids play with their kids, right? Is one of their kids 16 years old, like the Saudi student in NYC who told his teacher in early September that the twin WTC towers wouldn't be there much longer? Sleep well tonight......

I'm being an alarmist, you say? I'm spreading rumors and creating problems where they don't exist, you say? Go back, read the Qur’an, look around the world at what islamics are doing daily to non-islamics, and come back to show me where I'm wrong! Frankly, I would LOVE to be wrong, but the evidence, the facts, are overwhelming! SIGH!

[SKempis]

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[2sheep]

>>>Apparently the Byzantines were persecuting their fellow Christians in much the same way the Church did during the inquisitions. The Muslims were seen as "saviors" because they allowed them to practice their own brand of Christianity. Therefore many of the "christians" converted to Islam.  But what better way to conquer your enemy than with "love".

Yes!  Love or compromise.  There can be no true unity in the Spirit without holiness.  Ecumenicism in all of its forms, are lies of the devil and the antichrist system manifest in government, media and the false teachers who have filled the church with their false doctrines designed to make the lukewarm middle the norm.  They have leavened the whole loaf!  The Lord warned to beware, but too few believed Him and know not they are traveling down the broad road to destruction.

Da 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

If a person is not yielding to the Holy Spirit by walking in holiness and obedience, then he is yielding to the world system (Mammon) and doing wickedly against the covenant and that system will corrupt him by flatteries.  Rom 6:16.

Da 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Psalms 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.

Ecumenicism, Pluralism, Ceasefire, Disarmament, Flatteries, Tolerance, Multiculturalism, Diversity, Compromise, Unity, Cooperation, "Peace and Security" are all tools of the devil used to defeat Israel, America and the West.  It is imperative that we return to God's rules and not play by the devil's.  More here:  #45

Get Ready for Twenty World Trade Center Bombings (A MUST READ interview from 1997)

Dream of the Capturing of Many Women - 1997

[irish_lad]

Hal Lindsey is a kook and so is anyone who believes this drivel.

[FourtySeven]

I'm a Christian, but things I can never really get behind are "prophecies" of Jesus' return. Let's take this one for example.

Mr. Lindsey claims to know that these are the "end times" because of John 16:2, and how it can seem to apply to Muslims and what they're doing today. Let's analyze this:

First, Islam has always had its doctrine, and their rejection of other faiths since it was created about 1,600 years ago. Clearly the world didn't end 1,600 years ago.

Second, and this is a more general criticism of "prophecies", the events as described in the Bible that will fortell Jesus' return can be applied to any era, as I demonstrated specifically in point one. Other examples include: Famine, earthquakes, wars, and rumors of wars, and general intolerance for Christianity, not just from those acting, in their belief, for God.

Finally, it is written that no man shall know the hour of His return. One may make the argument that that scripture refers to simply the "hour", and not the period of time, but I don't agree with that. Put another way, if you believe you can know the "period of time" He will return, what "period of time" are you talking about? A decade? A year? A month? A day? An "hour"? To me, it seems like there could be no end to the specificity of such prediction, once you open the floodgates, and allow yourself to go down that "slippery slope".

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Appreciate your comments. Hal Lindsey has written some excellent books. The Late Great Planet Earth was the number one best selling book of its decade.

Then he had a radio program - that came on here on Saturdays from 1-2:30 PM. Don't know if it does any more.

But I remember from those programs that he was about the ONLY person talking about Iran as the danger it has become. He spoke about Iraq also, of course, during the Gulf War. But he kept saying over and over again that IRAN was where the real danger is. I don't remember all the the reasons - and I realize Iran is Persian - which is not the same as Arab - but still of course there was the Ayatollah Khomeni.

Now we have Iran identified as part of the "Axis of Evil" by our President and we also have Iraq and Iran becoming closer in their alliance (which I know was fractured by their long running war during the 80's).

In the book of Ezekiel - Iran is mentioned (Persia) but Iraq (Babylonia) is not - in Ezekiel 37, 38.

It's all very interesting. I believe that God gave America - and the world - a "reprieve" during the 80's (During Reagan's and Thatcher's term). I believe God has given America another "chance" to turn to Him - and that President Bush's leadership at this critical time is not an "accident."

I also believe that the persecution of Christians and Jews the world over is not going to decrease - but will increase - and will take hold in this country also. But, before then, the opportunities abound for Christian witnessing and, as you say, for prayer - especially for our young people!

When the "real" persecution starts in this country - I think we will know that we are truly "at the end" of things because there is not another country left to go to. We are it.

President Bush has called what is being attacked by the terrorists as "freedom" and I believe he means "freedom to Worship God" is what will disappear first if the terrorists triumph.

He is right. That baseline freedom to Worship God, for which our ancestors in this nation fled from European persecution, is the fundamental freedom of America. And when it goes, America goes.

This is the freedom (among others) for which we stand and fight and pray!

Those who work against our stand for FREEDOM (the Marxists and Communists in this country led by the Hitlery Clintons and the Tinpot Tommy Dashcle's) are of course working in league with those in Islam who want to end our FREEDOM to worship God - just as they have done to the non-Muslims in every country in which they dwell.

The fact that anti-(real)God Muslims are allied with anti-God Communists/Socialists/Marxists against those who believe in the FREEDOM to Worship God (as we choose) - IS NOT A SURPRISE!

It is the battle of the ages come down to this!

It is God vs. Anti God

Christ vs. AntiChrist

Allah (Satanic) vs. God (Holy)

It is civilization against barbarit

And it is life vs. death.

Who will triumph? God knows and is our only true bulwark against the flood of evil which we face today.

Those dear Christians in the Sudan who are suffering for their Christian faith and all those around the world who are suffering and will suffer - God is JUST. He is their and our sure defender! We must go forward with God!

And leave the rest to HIM!

[2sheep]

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"Add to cart" indeed!  What shall a man give in chance for his soul? ...in some cases, just $21.99.  There is a type of covenant or agreement that happens in the buying and selling of things.  Even giving money to a false ministry links one to it spiritually because money represents a portion of one's life and power.  Man is given things and the test is to see what we do with that which is given.  Big money ministries are "given power" and credibility in man's eyes by the fact that they are rich, but it is often some poor undiscerning soul who has given his money to the false to validate that ministry.  A gift perverteth judgment as does receiving false ministry, but people take cursed things in their homes all the time and ignore the Word on the subject. 

It may be a worse sin to give money to a false ministry than to waste one's money in riotuous living.  The former is leading many down the broad road to destruction.

Mr 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

[bdub]

I hear ya

[P-Marlowe]

Hal Lindsay has been wrong on several occasions, prophesying the Second Coming in the 1980s, for example.

Do you have some cite or reference that I can look up to find a statement of Hal Lindsey where he stated categorically that Christ was going to return in the 1980's? I don't recall that he ever prophesied anything. I always theought that he was a biblical analyist and not a prophet.

Anyway, since you made the statement and then condemned him for it, I believe that you , as a Christian, owe it to Lindsey and to all the lurkers here to prove your statement.

If you can't prove it, then either modify it or retract it.

Thanks.

[Campion]

Care to thump your chest about how proud you are to be a true Biblical Christian, who never looks for signs, unlike those benighted Romanists evangelicals?

Looks to me like "searching after signs" is not an exclusively Romish trait.

[2sheep]

>>>It is a mistake to judge the man before listening to the message in this case.

No, that is a concept like the "spirit of niceness" from Ecumenicism (see post #66 above) which will deceive and send many to hell.  More than anything else Jesus warned of deception.  He warned to beware of false prophets.  Paul didn't subject himself to false brethren for one hour, about the length of many church services!

Ga 2:5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

Titus also speaks of those who would come in and subvert whole houses.  At that time the church met in houses.  Today there are whole denominations led astray.

Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

The command of scripture is to be come out and be separate, holy, set apart....departing from iniquity...purifying your souls in
obeying the truth through the Spirit....wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.   Lots of people need to be wiser lest they be seduced as cast away as in Prov. 1:20-33.   Will you inherit Psalm 91 or Proverbs 1:20-33?

[2sheep]

But, I have never seen or heard anything from Hal that indicated that he did not 100% support the diety of Jesus or that salvation is only through Grace.

Luther added "alone" to saved by faith.  That would of course mean that Luther "taught falsely" so what does that make him?  Check it out here: #37.

[LS]

I respectfully beg to differ, but in a different sense. Of course angels have tremendous power. But everything in the NT says that "WE" have been given authority over the devil in this world, NOT THE ANGELS. Therefore, I firmly believe this refers to us, not to angelic forces defeating demons.

[LS]

Yes, you are right about this. Whoever "falls away" (and I have seen excellent arguments all over the map on who specifically that is), it is NOT sinners, because they have no where to fall to.

[LS]

So you disagree with the prophecy that we would all have to come into the "unity of the faith" before Jesus would return. Which other prophecies do you dismiss?

[LS]

No, I don't "owe it" to you, him, or any lurkers to do any such thing. I followed Lindsay's writings back in the 1970s, checked them out, and was greatly disturbed by his abuse of history. He compressed "eras," stuck countries where they historically didn't belong, picked out a single symbol out of, perhaps, dozens as the "image" of a particular civilization. All I remember is that when I examined him closely in the 1970s and 1980s, he was way off base.

Now, you can get some things right by accident. Certainly the CREATION of Israel in 1947 meant that anyone prophesying a "war" or "conflict" in parts of that region would be on pretty solid ground pretty much any time. But the measuring stick for a prophet of God is MUCH higher. The Bible says that all their prophecies will come true. So if he is off in so much as a single detail, the Bible says he is not to be listened to. It doesn't say to "dis" him, and I don't. But I remind my brothers and sisters that a prophet whose prophecies do not come true is not being given those prophecies by God.